Tesla updates software to roll out driverless cars in three months

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Quote from: coinpr0n on March 25, 2015, 06:45:55 PM

Sure I agree in this scenario a lot of jobs will be made obsolete. I suppose self-driving cars will be cheap, but not free. That money goes to the owner of the car I'm guessing? Leasing self-driving cars to use as taxis has got to be big business.

You could get your self driving car to become a taxi and make money for you when you are not using it! I assume the traditional taxi market would become obsolete if you could do this with self driving cars.

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I will never buy a self-driving car, because I like the act of driving too much. I don't understand the appeal to a car that drives itself. It takes all the joy out of cars.

In the fast-approaching 'Internet of Everything' World you will not have a choice. Probably 20 years out. Driving a car by steering wheel will become as archaic as using a Vic 20 to game on.

I would bet serious money it will never be mandated in the US. People won't tolerate losing such an essential freedom. Besides, I can't see companies being able to handle the potential liability. Any accident would forever be the fault of the car company now. Plus, in order for such a system to work, there would need to be a massive database that monitors and controls all traffic and has access to every car's location and destination in order to pre-plot any potential problems with other cars. If it didn't, cars would only be able to react to their immediate surroundings, which would be chaotic and self-defeating.

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Sure I agree in this scenario a lot of jobs will be made obsolete. I suppose self-driving cars will be cheap, but not free. That money goes to the owner of the car I'm guessing? Leasing self-driving cars to use as taxis has got to be big business.

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After watching the above video and seeing how they portray the truck driver as leisurely sitting back, enjoying his ipad, the reality of it hit me. There wouldn't be any driver at all.

So, there is also a sort of social dilemma to consider here, since this technology will obviously present a problem for a lot of people. There sure are a lot of jobs that require driving. No longer required by industry, as the demand for 'drivers' falls to the wayside (pardon the pun), cab drivers, bus drivers, transport truck drivers, etc. will be flocking in droves to unemployment centers, almost overnight, wondering what they will do next to make ends meet.

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Here's the Mercedes F 015 concept car. You can control it and tell it to pick you up with a smartphone app! Cool

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqPfKt50zBI

It's amazing to see how far this has come to. Google has supposedly managed to create autonomous car that are really reliable. It's really interesting to see all those concepts that could reshape the industry. I wonder how much it's going to take until the next generation of cars starts taking over.

I can't wait!

Not to be outdone, Audi has their own version as well.

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Quote from: (oYo) on March 22, 2015, 11:37:46 PM

Here's the Mercedes F 015 concept car. You can control it and tell it to pick you up with a smartphone app! Cool

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqPfKt50zBI

It's amazing to see how far this has come to. Google has supposedly managed to create autonomous car that are really reliable. It's really interesting to see all those concepts that could reshape the industry. I wonder how much it's going to take until the next generation of cars starts taking over.

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Here's the Mercedes F 015 concept car. You can control it and tell it to pick you up with a smartphone app! Cool

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqPfKt50zBI

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Tesla once again pushing the technology forward into the world, which is awesome, but the driverless car is not something i want to have in any near future.
When they rolled out their electric cars, they did a giant step in getting customers the same comfort and performance of a standard engine, and the adoption is rising every year because its a logical step to make,
but to put security of passengers in hands of a machine; its still to early to do that on roads, and i doubt there will be any AI that will have the ability to predict illogical moves of other human drivers along the way.
If we were to have all cars controlled by AI, that would make much more sence, but to mix them with unpredictable drivers..im not so sure thats a smart idea.

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Can't even manage to drive a few minutes in the middle lane with cruise control set at 65MPH in light traffic without some assfuck swerving (turning without signaling) in front of me, and/or slamming their brakes for no good reason. Is the Tesla going to swerve into an open lane or hard brake when its lasers detect assfucks?

Hm... I know the feeling. Too many drivers consider signalling to be an optional feature... Having a miniature rocket launcher at the front may be an option. Cheesy

I'd rather... TURBO BOOST!

A rocket launcher would leave too much dangerous debris on the road. I'd like to have a couple Romulan disruptors mounted on the front fenders to completely disintegrate anyone who won't get out of my way. Cheesy

Personally I can't wait for autopilot for cars. I hate commuting and would prefer to sleep, read, play games, watch movies, eat, drink or even just take a shit, rather than have to drive in traffic everyday just to get to and from work. Driving isn't fun unless you're pushing the limits and for that you (legally) need be on a closed track, otherwise you're just being reckless by endangering innocent people's lives or at the very least property.

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Can't even manage to drive a few minutes in the middle lane with cruise control set at 65MPH in light traffic without some assfuck swerving (turning without signaling) in front of me, and/or slamming their brakes for no good reason. Is the Tesla going to swerve into an open lane or hard brake when its lasers detect assfucks?

Hm... I know the feeling. Too many drivers consider signalling to be an optional feature... Having a miniature rocket launcher at the front may be an option. Cheesy

I'd rather... TURBO BOOST!

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Quote from: TheButterZone on March 22, 2015, 05:26:50 PM

Can't even manage to drive a few minutes in the middle lane with cruise control set at 65MPH in light traffic without some assfuck swerving (turning without signaling) in front of me, and/or slamming their brakes for no good reason. Is the Tesla going to swerve into an open lane or hard brake when its lasers detect assfucks?

Hm... I know the feeling. Too many drivers consider signalling to be an optional feature... Having a miniature rocket launcher at the front may be an option. Cheesy

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Can't even manage to drive a few minutes in the middle lane with cruise control set at 65MPH in light traffic without some assfuck swerving (turning without signaling) in front of me, and/or slamming their brakes for no good reason. Is the Tesla going to swerve into an open lane or hard brake when its lasers detect assfucks?

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This may be the best way to continue developing driverless cars. Tesla has small enough penetration, yet enough to get some important data points.

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Quote from: jaysabi on March 21, 2015, 04:26:14 PM

I will never buy a self-driving car, because I like the act of driving too much. I don't understand the appeal to a car that drives itself. It takes all the joy out of cars.

In the fast-approaching 'Internet of Everything' World you will not have a choice. Probably 20 years out. Driving a car by steering wheel will become as archaic as using a Vic 20 to game on.

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It will be cool when you could have you car drive people around and make money when you are not using it, there could be a service like uber for them.

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Quote from: jaysabi on March 21, 2015, 04:26:14 PM

I will never buy a self-driving car, because I like the act of driving too much. I don't understand the appeal to a car that drives itself. It takes all the joy out of cars.

It's not very different from riding the bus, or taking a taxi, instead of a person driving you have a computer.

I think this technology is great, but it will take quite a few years for it to become ubiquitous, and I want one now! Cheesy

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Quote from: Vod on March 21, 2015, 04:42:39 PM

Quote from: jaysabi on March 21, 2015, 04:26:14 PM

I will never buy a self-driving car, because I like the act of driving too much. I don't understand the appeal to a car that drives itself. It takes all the joy out of cars.

In a few years you may not have a choice. A human driving might be considered too dangerous for other cars on the road. Humans make too many mistakes.

A few decades, maybe, if we ever get to the point where the "choice" to drive is eliminated. I personally don't see that as likely.

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Global adoption will be slower in places like china and india where there are a lot of cars and the income is not very high resulting in people keeping cars for a very long time.

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Actually I think that I probably won't own a car until most cars are driverless and electric, so it is good to see the tech coming to market so soon (so it will be really good when it is time for me to buy)

Boo to electric! (Posted selfishly by someone who has had their income affected by the low price of oil) Grin

I see were you come from but it is the way the market will move in the future. It will be a while until most of the cars on the road are electric like 10-20 years because of how long they last so at least for you there is a bright side. Oil will still be used in lots of things like plastics so it will not be completely useless once gas cars are gone.

I don't know about 10-20 years...

Oslo, Norway is leading the way. You can see cars with "EL" license plate everywhere, and there are so many of them, that there are talks of discontinuing the privilege given to the electric cars, such as use of commuter/bus field and free entry into the capital. And the chargers in central Oslo are almost on every corner.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plug-in_electric_vehicles_in_Norway

Globally adoption will be far slower, Cars sold today in a lot of countries are mostly gas and cars are commonly used for 10+ years so I don't think my estimate was far off.

In Norway, adoption simply exploded over the last 4 years. But you may be right. Norway, even though it's an oil producer, is a special isolated case. The global adoption may indeed go slower.

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Quote from: Nemo1024 on March 21, 2015, 05:57:16 PM

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Quote from: Vod on March 21, 2015, 04:51:09 PM

Quote from: cramved on March 21, 2015, 04:48:04 PM

Actually I think that I probably won't own a car until most cars are driverless and electric, so it is good to see the tech coming to market so soon (so it will be really good when it is time for me to buy)

Boo to electric! (Posted selfishly by someone who has had their income affected by the low price of oil) Grin

I see were you come from but it is the way the market will move in the future. It will be a while until most of the cars on the road are electric like 10-20 years because of how long they last so at least for you there is a bright side. Oil will still be used in lots of things like plastics so it will not be completely useless once gas cars are gone.

I don't know about 10-20 years...

Oslo, Norway is leading the way. You can see cars with "EL" license plate everywhere, and there are so many of them, that there are talks of discontinuing the privilege given to the electric cars, such as use of commuter/bus field and free entry into the capital. And the chargers in central Oslo are almost on every corner.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Tesla.jpg/220px-Tesla.jpg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plug-in_electric_vehicles_in_Norway

Globally adoption will be far slower, Cars sold today in a lot of countries are mostly gas and cars are commonly used for 10+ years so I don't think my estimate was far off.

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