Thai military seizes power in coup - page 4.

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Quote from: Kluge on May 22, 2014, 01:42:57 PM

Quote from: El Cabron on May 22, 2014, 01:37:32 PM

vote ... they are also saying they will start a civil war if they do not get power.

Ah. "One gun, one vote."

I thought you'd moved to the US. Just a visit? ~~You should overstay your tourist visa next time.~~

yes just a visit, that yellow car for that pr stunt has been left somewhere. i have been in thailand more than 90% of the last 10 years.

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Quote from: tooil on May 22, 2014, 01:50:36 PM

Why bother having an election at all if they publicly stated they will start a civil war if they lose?

they hold about 70% of the vote. assuming it would be done fairly.

clearly they will be upset if they do not win.

the thing about thailand is the massive poor people started winning elections, the rich few did not like this.

but the rich few ran the country and made it work.

it is a mess.

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Why bother having an election at all if they publicly stated they will start a civil war if they lose?

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Quote from: El Cabron on May 22, 2014, 01:37:32 PM

vote ... they are also saying they will start a civil war if they do not get power.

Ah. "One gun, one vote."

I thought you'd moved to the US. Just a visit? ~~You should overstay your tourist visa next time.~~

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Quote from: Kluge on May 22, 2014, 01:12:06 PM

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Quote from: Kluge on May 22, 2014, 01:08:42 PM

It sounds like they forcefully took control of the government to "force" an allegedly-to-be-fair election. ... So I guess the military's supposed to be the moderates in this situation...?

yes, but, the reds will clearly win all elections, so if there is a vote, and the reds win well we are back to where we were a year ago.

and if there is not a vote, the red will start a civil war.

The reds will win fairly, or must there be "undemocratic actions" taken to win? Trying to understand if this is putsch or popular uprising.

there is no doubt that the reds have more than 50% vote. they even won last time with the deck stacked against them. they are also saying they will start a civil war if they do not get power. it will be hard for the usa to support anyone but the reds in a war. if there is a war, it wont be nice.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on May 22, 2014, 01:01:17 PM

Quote from: E-C.Guru on May 22, 2014, 12:56:22 PM

Don't be so sure about that. I've stayed in Bangkok during military sieges before and it was pretty much like everyday life. Anyway they are very careful not to harm the tourism.

Don't know. More than two dozen people have lost their lives in the opposition protests, mostly in Bangkok. The situation is very volatile, and unsafe. A lot of people are canceling their hotel bookings.

Quote from: El Cabron on May 22, 2014, 12:59:24 PM

yeah so have i... shots fired every few mins...

so far nothing. i have not heard gun fire in years. that being said i am not in bkk right now but i am in thailand.

Get out from there, before the situation gets any worse.

this happens fairly often though. there are so many foreigners in thailand that they probably don't give a shit about the political unrest. kind of like how in south korea most people don't seem to care about what's going on in the north.

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Quote from: El Cabron on May 22, 2014, 01:10:24 PM

Quote from: Kluge on May 22, 2014, 01:08:42 PM

It sounds like they forcefully took control of the government to "force" an allegedly-to-be-fair election. ... So I guess the military's supposed to be the moderates in this situation...?

yes, but, the reds will clearly win all elections, so if there is a vote, and the reds win well we are back to where we were a year ago.

and if there is not a vote, the red will start a civil war.

The reds will win fairly, or must there be "undemocratic actions" taken to win? Trying to understand if this is putsch or popular uprising.

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Quote from: Kluge on May 22, 2014, 01:08:42 PM

It sounds like they forcefully took control of the government to "force" an allegedly-to-be-fair election. ... So I guess the military's supposed to be the moderates in this situation...?

yes, but, the reds will clearly win all elections, so if there is a vote, and the reds win well we are back to where we were a year ago.

and if there is not a vote, the red will start a civil war.

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It sounds like they forcefully took control of the government to "force" an allegedly-to-be-fair election. ... So I guess the military's supposed to be the moderates in this situation...?

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on May 22, 2014, 01:01:17 PM

Quote from: E-C.Guru on May 22, 2014, 12:56:22 PM

Don't be so sure about that. I've stayed in Bangkok during military sieges before and it was pretty much like everyday life. Anyway they are very careful not to harm the tourism.

Don't know. More than two dozen people have lost their lives in the opposition protests, mostly in Bangkok. The situation is very volatile, and unsafe. A lot of people are canceling their hotel bookings.

if you lose your life you are in an area where you are a target.

it really is pretty much like everyday life. the politics in thailand is insane. btw no army here but everyone went home at 10.

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Quote from: E-C.Guru on May 22, 2014, 12:56:22 PM

Don't be so sure about that. I've stayed in Bangkok during military sieges before and it was pretty much like everyday life. Anyway they are very careful not to harm the tourism.

Don't know. More than two dozen people have lost their lives in the opposition protests, mostly in Bangkok. The situation is very volatile, and unsafe. A lot of people are canceling their hotel bookings.

Quote from: El Cabron on May 22, 2014, 12:59:24 PM

yeah so have i... shots fired every few mins...

so far nothing. i have not heard gun fire in years. that being said i am not in bkk right now but i am in thailand.

Get out from there, before the situation gets any worse.

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Quote from: E-C.Guru on May 22, 2014, 12:56:22 PM

Don't be so sure about that. I've stayed in Bangkok during military sieges before and it was pretty much like everyday life. Anyway they are very careful not to harm the tourism.

yeah so have i... shots fired every few mins...

so far nothing. i have not heard gun fire in years. that being said i am not in bkk right now but i am in thailand.

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Don't be so sure about that. I've stayed in Bangkok during military sieges before and it was pretty much like everyday life. Anyway they are very careful not to harm the tourism.

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Quote from: TaunSew on May 22, 2014, 09:51:15 AM

Curfew after 10 PM?

Looks like the nightlife and tourism economy is going to take a hit.

It will definitely affect the tourism sector. But who in their right minds would visit a nation which is under a military dictatorship? We will be seeing a massive outflow of foreign tourists in the coming few days.

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Thai is used to coup every couple years.

Nothing really new or surprising.

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I haven't followed thai politics in a year. Who sat down in the big chair after lady Taksin was ousted? This is the regime that the military now took power from, right?(Military took power from yellow-shirts?)

If I got some RT article right the military historically sided with the yellows and not the reds, but im confused now Huh

Either way I hope for Taksin to be re-elected. The yellowshirts are basically capitalist rich that doesn't even hesitate to fight Cambodia on their borders just to save their income from tourism(Tourism is well established in Thailand but growing in Cambodia. Thailands nr 1 income that would decline if Cambodia was opened up for tourism more. And if they're fighting on the borders - that's not happening. Since most people come to cambodia threw Bangkok).

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Curfew after 10 PM?

Looks like the nightlife and tourism economy is going to take a hit.

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At least they are forthright about it. Wink

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http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-27517591

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Thailand's military has announced it is taking control of the government and has suspended the constitution. In a TV statement, army chief Gen Prayuth Chan-ocha vowed to restore order and enact political reforms. The cabinet has been told to report to the military, TV broadcasting is suspended and political gatherings are banned. A nationwide curfew will operate from 22:00 to 05:00 local time. The coup follows months of political turmoil in Thailand. On Tuesday the army imposed martial law. Talks were then held between the main political factions, but the army announced the coup on Thursday.

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