Topic: ThatsMod user scammer (Read 306 times)

Hmm... Unfortunately, it's been more than one week since you promised to prove your innocence, and you haven't provide anthing, not even the smallest evidence to unhinge the accusation toward you. I hope I am wrong because I stil believe 50$ is a very small amount to risk a reputation, but... due to the stretched silence, I think we should conclude this case.

Hopefully?  You either do or you don't.  So far that's two different members that have PMs from you acknowledging that you're in communication with them on Telegram.  Or did you not send that PM either?  Plus, I'm still waiting for you to prove that you didn't scam the first guy:


That was 5 days ago, and I'm still waiting.  Or, when you said "prove to you that anyone can be deceived in this way" is this what you meant:

https://gcdnb.pbrd.co/images/Vfr3VgrwGBpp.png?o=1

Cheeky

LOL whoa are you.
Dude just stop using your alts for that drama. Hopefully i got an arguments against you soon.

Just stay in touch.

Scams and scammers aren't moderated on this forum, it's up to the community to handle these things.  There's no number of mods that could handle the workload if they attempted.  That's the point of having a Default Trust system that selects forum members to support the forum feedback system.

As for being scammed by ThatsMod, I'm sorry for your loss but I'm afraid there's nothing anyone can do to recover your funds.

Can please post some evidence?  If it's compelling I'm sure more DT members would tag his account.  Speaking of which, I wonder why more DT members haven't tagged this scammer already... 

Don't worry, he'll die in a very disgraceful way soon.

please ban this monkey he scammed me too

pplease ban this guy and his ip he is very evil scammer... not just a scammer

I don't think that's a good idea.  It's my opinion that there's enough evidence suggesting ThatsMod did scam the OP.  Even though ThatsMod is participating in this thread, it seems like his story is full of holes and he hasn't provided anything to cause me to doubt the OP's story.  And I'm a reasonable guy; all it would take is something to cause me to doubt the OP's story.  

Furthermore, like ThatsMod himself said earlier, the tag doesn't prevent him from working on the 2 or 3 super-secret confidential projects he's got going on, or seeking out more work.

I think you understand things wrongly here, we are not judging and sentencing that you're the wrong one, we are simply looking for the truth behind the story, and only after that we can determine which user told lies and which one is the victim. The red tag given by DireWolfM14 was initialy raised to merely catch your attention toward this thread. It is not impossible that --if adequate evidences are given-- the real story here is the OP lied for whatever reason. But, so far, OP has evidences that incriminate you, so the ball is in your court.

There is no need to prove that you can fabricate evidences to deceive people, no one challenging you to edit photos to work in your favor. What we asked is for you to give counter-evidence that the screenshot given by OP is not correct, but not by editing another image to fabricate evidences, if both of you keep doing this, everything will go downhill.

As you said that you do sent a PM to the OP in the middle of, I assume, a job negotiation, I think it is safe to say that at least that evidence is valid. So, the story so far according to OP, you approached them to offer your service, asked for an upfront full payment --50 dollars, and I'll repeat myself just for thr record, IMO the amount is too small to risk a reputation-- and leave after you got the transfer.

With OP claiming you deleted the entire chat -but it seems, not before they can archive some screenshot-- and blocked them, and you claimed they deleted the chat after you refused the job --unfortunately, before you can archive the convo to work in your favor--, the case turns into a whodunnit.

I'll suggest we can start from whether TG name "Crypto Has" is really you or not, because I can't find your username using the handler you posted months ago, so I can't confirm it myself.


And then, after we established if the name is correct --and thus, the screenshots provided were at least bear some truth in it-- I'll suggest you to point out, according to your version, which part of conversation is true and from which part is fabricated.

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I think it is rather futile at this point, but... keraldk, we are still waiting for the proof that ThatsMod blocked you from TG

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DireWolfM14, as ThatsMod is already present here and to give an equal position for both parties, would you mind to retract the negative tag for now --or at least change them into neutral-- until it is proven which side lied and which side told the truth?

Okay, take all the time you need.  I agree, it doesn't have to involve the mods.  Once you've sufficiently convinced me that you did not scam this individual, I'll honor my promise to remove the tag.

In the meantime, can you please answer one question; which (if any) of those screen shots are of your conversation with the OP, and which are from him putting "on a good show between his tg accounts"?

Hello again,
I wrote to you that he asked me to confirm whether it was me in the telegram, I agreed and confirmed it, but I have nothing to do with the transfer of funds specifically. Okay, I accept this challenge, just give me one day to prove to you that anyone can be deceived in this way, it's really absurd, I didn't want to get into it until the last.

Not need to ask theymos that, you can ask it from me I am not hiding and I am convinced that I am right in this situation.

Good day to you.


Perhaps I can help; the OP claims you you contacted him on Telegram in response to an ad he posted here.  Here's a screenshot of a Telegram chat supporting his assertion:




Then the OP asked the Telegram user to verify that identity on Bitcointalk.org, here's the screenshot:




As you can see in the screenshot above, the Telegram user "Crypto Has" claims to be you, and posted a link to your profile: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/thatsmod-2720302
The OP then asks for a PM as verification.  As you can also see, "Crypto Has" replied that it was sent.  The OP also posted this screenshot of what really looks like a PM from you:

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Of course it's possible that the OP made this all up, and photo-chopped a bunch of damning evidence to ruin your experience on the forum.  I guess.  But otherwise, this looks like pretty damning evidence.

There is a way to clear this up.  You can ask theymos to confirm if that PM was actually sent or if it's a fake.  If theymos says it was a fake, I promise to remove the red-tag.

Thanks, and have a great day.

Good day to all

I do not understand at all what is being discussed here, the fact that I have not received any money or transactions from his side, I repeat once again, I do not use more than one telegram! I would return this money if I felt guilty about it, but not this time! It makes absolutely no sense for me to do this, I have been working in 2-3 projects on this forum successfully and for a long time, I will not name them because of the confed, but this is nonsense.

Otherwise, for the sake of an example, I can use the same scheme and deceive any honest person on the forum, it's ridiculous.I talked to him, but there was no deal and this is a fact, I have nothing to prove and I don't want to spend more time on it, you can blame me and put a negative trust, I will still continue to work and look for people with whom I will work on this forum.

Thanks,

btw, i never used bep20 before, even have no an active adresses.

I am sure DireWolfM14 will remove the negative tag if there isn't enough evidence to prove that you are a scammer.

According to the screenshots, you first didn't want to work with that person until he sent you the $50. Once he did and you confirmed receiving the coins, what happened next? You told him to get ready and that's where the conversation ends. Are you claiming that the discussion shown in the screenshots is not between you and the OP at all?

Telegram is an awful platform to use for business. The fact that anyone can delete private conversations for both parties is proof of that.

First thing to be confirmed, were the screenshot of the conversation is true, i.e. you're "Crypto Has" and the conversation between you and him really happened, at least up to the screenshot below? Not judging which side said the truth and which side lied as it is too soon to pass the judgement, but suppose the answer for both question is yes, and that you're really waiting for him to send transaction before proceeding to do the job, why didn't you say anything when he gave a screenshot of transaction to the address --assuming, if they lied, then the address on the screenshot is not yours because if it is, then keraldk would have finished their side of contract by paying you-- knowing that they gave a screenshot of a transfer to a wrong address.

For reference, the address is indeed credited with USDT and immediately drained, https://bscscan.com/address/0x0707d5e717f3090bdc6f8893fee2c3d12c27bb05

Good afternoon,

I woke up and I don't understand what it's about. I wanted to work with this person because I had dealt with this script in the past. He asked me to confirm that it was me and refused to transfer the funds first, after which I told him not to waste my and his time because he had registered a couple of days earlier, in the end he just insulted me and I said that he would deceive people with his script in the future and he deleted chat.
He put on a good show between his tg accounts.

I think it's unfair that you can spoil other people's accounts in this way.

Btw
Thanks for letting me know holydarkness

ThatsMod was online again this morning, and I see he has yet to address this accusation.  I've left him a negative review, hopefully that will motivate him to respond.

I'm trying to understand this, so you agreed to pay him upfront, 50 USDT, to fix your coding error, and after he received payment, he deleted all of your conversation? Is there any proof to backup this claim? Like the empty chat room or a sign that they blocked you? I am not doubting anyone, just trying to be logical as 50 seem... too low to risk a reputation.

Meanwhile, I see that ThatsMod is online today, I'll try to reach him through PM to invite him here and give his side of the story.

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Edit: invited

When you are presenting a scam accusation such as this there are certain procedures to follow if you expect to get any traction or attention around here.

You can find guidelines and a template here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/scam-report-format-use-it-to-make-scam-reports-properly-260073

Something like this is difficult to parse through, because the PM they sent you was very undescriptive. "Being in Contact on Telegram" doesn't help me confirm that this particular user that you produced messages with is the same person; additionally I don't see any dates on the messages or the PM verification.

It would be easier to navigate this accusation if you provided direct links to the accused profile, and transaction IDs/Addresses. I highly suggest only dealing with an escrow, unless there is extraordinary circumstances. More information on escrow guidelines can be found here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/prevention-is-better-than-a-cure-please-escrow-133931

Unless you can provide more proof or something more compelling I'm not sure that you will get the desired outcome from this thread.