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Topic: The Aftermath - Where will it leave BTC? (Read 5657 times)

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June 20, 2011, 09:04:00 PM
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Tradehill is around $14 as of this post, and I think it'll stay there for a little while, then slowly climb back up, at least to the $20 mark.

Good point. Vote it up folks. Where will it be this coming Sunday.
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Tradehill is around $14 as of this post, and I think it'll stay there for a little while, then slowly climb back up, at least to the $20 mark.
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zby
legendary
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What boat did you just fall off? Why would I buy if I wanted to sell? I'm going to buy a few low and drive the price up to sell? How old are you, 4?
Oh - how I love this type of arguments, but yeah - OK, it actually makes me believe that you were honest Smiley  Take into account that I did not wrote you want to sell (or want to buy) only that you sounded as if you wanted, but maybe I am only losing time trying to explain the difference?

Right, you did not write that I wanted to sell. You wrote....

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you really wanted to sell

You're wasting everyone's time.

Well - that is quoting out of context - read again what I wrote. 
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MtGox's incompetence will cripple bitcoin for the near future.  Will bitcoin recover? Who knows. 

Bitcoin is fine.  The tens of thousands of clients are still happily chugging away maintaining the distributed p2p block chain.

MtGox is just another business that takes Bitcoins.  If MtGox has problems, it is of no greater significance than if the Alpaca Sock guy were to have problems.

If MtGox can't provide a liquid market between dollars and Bitcoins, then others will fill the vacuum.

A month from now, we'll all look back on this and laugh.



 

Fuckin-A. Scares the know-nots though, they'll learn however.
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MtGox's incompetence will cripple bitcoin for the near future.  Will bitcoin recover? Who knows. 

Bitcoin is fine.  The tens of thousands of clients are still happily chugging away maintaining the distributed p2p block chain.

MtGox is just another business that takes Bitcoins.  If MtGox has problems, it is of no greater significance than if the Alpaca Sock guy were to have problems.

If MtGox can't provide a liquid market between dollars and Bitcoins, then others will fill the vacuum.

A month from now, we'll all look back on this and laugh.



 
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What boat did you just fall off? Why would I buy if I wanted to sell? I'm going to buy a few low and drive the price up to sell? How old are you, 4?
Oh - how I love this type of arguments, but yeah - OK, it actually makes me believe that you were honest Smiley  Take into account that I did not wrote you want to sell (or want to buy) only that you sounded as if you wanted, but maybe I am only losing time trying to explain the difference?

Right, you did not write that I wanted to sell. You wrote....

Quote
you really wanted to sell

You're wasting everyone's time.
zby
legendary
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What boat did you just fall off? Why would I buy if I wanted to sell? I'm going to buy a few low and drive the price up to sell? How old are you, 4?
Oh - how I love this type of arguments, but yeah - OK, it actually makes me believe that you were honest Smiley  Take into account that I did not wrote you want to sell (or want to buy) only that you sounded as if you wanted, but maybe I am only losing time trying to explain the difference?
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ha ha - you guys sound like you really wanted to sell all of your bitcoins and want the price not drop to quickly.

I suppose in the land of make believe you could deduce that from one written line. And besides dolt, I obviously want the price to drop quickly and far if I am to buy some. What boat did you just fall off? Why would I buy if I wanted to sell? I'm going to buy a few low and drive the price up to sell? How old are you, 4?
zby
legendary
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ha ha - you guys sound like you really wanted to sell all of your bitcoins and want the price not drop to quickly.
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Same thing!
Hopefully my transfer will be done by the time some weaklings decide to sell!  Grin
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I'm buying a ton if my funds clear and the price is under 14 or 15. I can't wait. It'll be like Christmas.  Grin

Already moving my $$ to position for this. The weak will be separated with the chaff. They will be absorbed and forgotten and blown away with the sands of tme.
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I'm buying a ton if my funds clear and the price is under 14 or 15. I can't wait. It'll be like Christmas.  Grin
zby
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My bet is slightly below $10 - sure there are many excited buyers, but just think about all those that were nearly convinced to sell.
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Nice how the votes are nearly equally distributed, at least above 10$. It seems the crowd doesn't know more than anyone else, in this case. :-)

Well, where the price will end up could be significantly affected by anyone with a lot of Bitcoins deciding to cash out, and I think no one really can say if that will happen or not, and to what extreme. The market is small enough and some people have enough Bitcoins to the point where the price can climb sky-high or drop like a rock just by one user's decision, as demonstrated in the price drop when MtGox got hacked. As Seldon so eloquently puts it, a group is predictable, but individuals are not.

True, however, this is also a large group of people waiting for a big pullback to buy. This is going to be a ripsaw.
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Ad astra.
Nice how the votes are nearly equally distributed, at least above 10$. It seems the crowd doesn't know more than anyone else, in this case. :-)

Well, where the price will end up could be significantly affected by anyone with a lot of Bitcoins deciding to cash out, and I think no one really can say if that will happen or not, and to what extreme. The market is small enough and some people have enough Bitcoins to the point where the price can climb sky-high or drop like a rock just by one user's decision, as demonstrated in the price drop when MtGox got hacked. As Seldon so eloquently puts it, a group is predictable, but individuals are not.
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Nice how the votes are nearly equally distributed, at least above 10$. It seems the crowd doesn't know more than anyone else, in this case. :-)
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I wasnt silly enough to buy any bitcoins.

And i wont be purchasing any.......period.

So why are you on a bitcoin forum?

Nothing is as obvious as it seems, which obviously escaped the poster after you!

I was looking to invest in Bitcoin business ventures, it took me all of 2 days on here to realise buying and selling these things was not a good idea, i was also not happy with the security of bitcoins, as you will see from my past posts.

I had been in contact with a very well known exchange and we were discussing a payment processing deal but i decided against it in the end for several reasons based mainly on tax implications.

I had signed up for a MtGox account last week to see how it all worked and to educate myself in regards to Bitcoin but never funded it, or planned to fund it, i was always interested in servicing Bitcoin customers, not actual Bitcoin, i prefer cold hard $$$.

Obviously (there's that word again) i got the email this morning about the hack, being i signed up at MtGox, though i used an obscure username and password etc so it seems im safe at this point.

So after an exciting week in Bitcoin land i will bid you all farewell and good luck and go back to my hedge fund business dealings and other online business ventures.

This is not something i will be investing in at this time.
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How ironic, a lawyer who is "afraid" of Bitcoin investing due to tax implications.

I did not say that I was afraid of Bitcoins, I said that my friend was concerned that it might prompt an audit if a lot of money came into my accounts. I thought I might be able to hide it well enough so that would not happen. The point is moot as I will not be investing any time soon, but not because of the tax implications. Mining is on the verge of not being profitable, and at the moment it is not possible to trust the exchanges.

1) If you convert from BTC > Paypal USD you are taking a huge risk the buyer will burn you.
2) If you use LR (for example), then your LR > USD transaction is taxable income, but how does the Gov ever know Bitcoins were involved?
3) If your Bitcoin investment rises in value (or at any time) you can use some to buy products and services.

Number 3 is a very big IF. At the moment, I cannot see how any sane merchant will get involved. Imagine you took payment on Saturday afternoon at $17 USD as a weekly average. Today you would be in a panic.

I still think that the legality of BTC is a huge issue. If it becomes more popular, the Fed and European regulators will declare it illegal. Catch 22.
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