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Quote from: hazek on March 12, 2012, 01:22:29 PM

How about Switzerland. Almost every house has at least one military riffle/machine gun and yet it's one of the safest places on this planet.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yK5DH8iknQ

It could be that the economic and social conditions in Switzerland are vastly different from what they are in Detroit or South Central LA..
In an affluent, homogeneous neighborhood with police protection, why would the place be unsafe ?
I'd be interested in seeing statistics pointing to an absence of correlation between gun detention rates and crime rates, that is statistics taking into account economic and social conditions.

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Quote from: Daily Anarchist on July 11, 2012, 03:25:45 PM

Quote from: ripper234 on July 11, 2012, 08:05:42 AM

What is the URL of this site?

Silk Road's URL is written in Wikipedia, but I couldn't find the URL of armory anywhere.

Read this article.

http://dailyanarchist.com/2011/06/21/how-and-why-to-get-to-silk-road/

Thanks.

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Quote from: Sukrim on March 06, 2012, 05:18:17 AM

Quote from: Red Emerald on March 02, 2012, 07:57:19 PM

Yeah. And the UK has no gun crime because of it... oh wait... it's gone UP since the ban.

In my home country (not UK) less than 4% of the population owns a gun and I actually feel safer than I ever would/did in the USA...
And guess what, criminals around here typically also don't carry guns!

Just to be clear here, I've been to the military as well and loved to handle guns there - still I would only in very rare circumstances ever consider of buying a gun myself.

You feel safe, but do you feel free from the encroachments of tyranny?

"They that can give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."
-Benjamin Franklin

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Quote from: ripper234 on July 11, 2012, 08:05:42 AM

What is the URL of this site?

Silk Road's URL is written in Wikipedia, but I couldn't find the URL of armory anywhere.

Read this article.

http://dailyanarchist.com/2011/06/21/how-and-why-to-get-to-silk-road/

ripper234

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What is the URL of this site?

Silk Road's URL is written in Wikipedia, but I couldn't find the URL of armory anywhere.

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Quote from: vampire on March 10, 2012, 09:35:41 AM

NYC pretty much banned all weapons, the violent crime rate is low. The largest city in USA didn't even get in top 30, Detroit with CC is number one.

Explain Baltimore. It's right on the tails of Detroit, with a higher murder rate (I guess it's lacking elsewhere), and they pretty much banned guns there as well.

It couldn't be that other factors come into play, could it? You wouldn't paint half a picture and tell us it's a masterpiece, would you?

I lived in Baltimore for most of my life. First of all, neither NYC nor Baltimore have banned guns. While gun advocates my disagree the laws in NYC do not prevent anyone from owning guns, they just make it more of a pain in the ass.

The difference between the two is how they deal with gun crimes. In NYC if you HAVE a gun and commit a crime (and are convicted) you are going to jail for a LONG time. In Baltimore you do the same thing and you may get jail time, you may not.

Where Baltimore is particularly bad is in the situation where someone is held up at gunpoint and nobody is hurt. The criminal is willing to take the life of the victim but when convicted they will get a light sentence often on first time just probation. The message seems to be that it is not so bad to do this and it keeps happening until somebody dies.

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Quote from: hazek on March 12, 2012, 01:22:29 PM

How about Switzerland. Almost every house has at least one military riffle/machine gun and yet it's one of the safest places on this planet.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yK5DH8iknQ

do you guys work from a script or something, or are you the same person & it's just that your record has got a scratch on it so repeats every so many beats/posts- someone has already said that here on this thread previously

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkumhBVPGdg

sweet jane ~ swiss free Tongue

hazek

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How about Switzerland. Almost every house has at least one military riffle/machine gun and yet it's one of the safest places on this planet.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yK5DH8iknQ

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Quote from: RDarke on March 11, 2012, 02:01:53 PM

Quote from: vampire on March 11, 2012, 12:13:17 AM

They don't. If someone pulls a gun on you, you will be dead before you'll get yours out.

Well damn. Then I've been killed 13 times now.

I've only been killed once. Sad

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Quote from: stevegee58 on March 11, 2012, 06:25:06 PM

In honor of this thread I went out in my back yard shooting shit with all our guns with my son and his buddies.

I took my 13 year old to Front Sight last weekend. During the malfunction drills, he was clearing his jams and getting back on target faster than the cop taking the class.

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In honor of this thread I went out in my back yard shooting shit with all our guns with my son and his buddies.

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Quote from: vampire on March 11, 2012, 12:13:17 AM

They don't. If someone pulls a gun on you, you will be dead before you'll get yours out.

Well damn. Then I've been killed 13 times now.

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Quote from: vampire on March 11, 2012, 12:13:17 AM

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Quote from: vampire on March 10, 2012, 03:06:08 PM

Handguns don't prevent crimes.

Now that is a lie.

Nice talking to you. I think I'll start carrying two pistols now. Wink

They don't. If someone pulls a gun on you, you will be dead before you'll get yours out.

You can't just repeat your unfounded statement and expect anyone to believe it. Adding a stupid hypothetical isn't enough either.

If you want someone to believe you, you are going to need to examine the huge piles of data that clearly show the exact opposite of what you are saying, and you need to point out how all of it is wrong.

Good luck with that.

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Nice

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Quote from: vampire on March 10, 2012, 03:06:08 PM

You said that its hard to get a gun, it isn't hard to get a gun at all. MD has only restrictions on CC.

I stand corrected. It's very difficult to purchase a handgun in New York.

LOL. You're so silly. Buffallo has CC. in NYC hard to get a weapon, but NYS has CC.

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Buffalo, NY is 7th on the violent crime per 100,000 list.

Exactly the point. In the same state a city that has CC and a city that doesn't. Lets see stats are again against you.

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Quote from: vampire on March 10, 2012, 03:06:08 PM

Handguns don't prevent crimes.

Now that is a lie.

Nice talking to you. I think I'll start carrying two pistols now. Wink

They don't. If someone pulls a gun on you, you will be dead before you'll get yours out.

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Quote from: vampire on March 10, 2012, 02:42:16 PM

Now you are just lying, not surprised. In MD you can get a handgun easily without a state license.

25% less crime is huge, keep it coming.

I said you needed to pass a Federal background check in both states. I never said anything about a state license.

Personally, I wouldn't live in Detroit or Baltimore. Roll Eyes

You said that its hard to get a gun, it isn't hard to get a gun at all. MD has only restrictions on CC.

In NYS you need a license for handguns, NYC has very restrictive licensing aside from NYS license. Handguns don't prevent crimes. People think its easy to shoot someone under stress, it's actually very hard.

Defensive weapons like shotguns do, easy to use and handle.

Most people with handguns don't know how to handle them, because no one requires them to take any training. Most of the guns that criminals use were stolen from clueless owners or bought by family members. The owners of these guns should be responsible very dearly for misuse of weapons.

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Quote from: vampire on March 10, 2012, 01:45:57 PM

Btw in Baltimore:

Concealed carry by permit

LOL! If you are brother of the mayor, maybe. You have similar chances of getting one in NY state.

Quote from: vampire on March 10, 2012, 01:45:57 PM

No permit to buy a handgun

But you have to pass a Federal background check to purchase a handgun in either state.

Quote from: vampire on March 10, 2012, 01:45:57 PM

Violent rate a lot less than detroit

Detroit - Violent crime per 100,000 people = 1,887.4

Baltimore - Violent crime per 100,000 people = 1,455.8

Detroit - Murder per 100,000 people = 34.5

Baltimore - Murder per 100,000 people = 34.8

Quote from: vampire on March 10, 2012, 01:45:57 PM

Bottom line it's very hard to get a gun in NYC and in 40 years it become docile.

Bottom line, it's very hard to get a gun in Baltimore, and it's a shit hole.

Seriously, what's the point of throwing out numbers that fit your preconceived notions? We could probably go back and forth all day. As long as we don't force each other to live by what we think is correct, everything is peachy.

Now you are just lying, not surprised. In MD you can get a handgun easily without a state license.

25% less crime is huge, keep it coming.

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Quote from: stevegee58 on March 10, 2012, 12:52:08 PM

Quote from: vampire on March 10, 2012, 09:35:41 AM

NYC pretty much banned all weapons, the violent crime rate is low. The largest city in USA didn't even get in top 30, Detroit with CC is number one.

1) Correlations don't establish cause-and-effect
2) Cherry picking correlations in an attempt to prove one's point is disingenuous.

As Holliday pointed out, Baltimore is hard to explain away based on gun laws there. What's more, Baltimore is in Maryland, one of the most restrictive gun law states. While most states are what's called "shall issue" (i.e. states issue CC permits based purely on background check), Maryland is one of the few "may issue" states where you need a "good reason" to CC.

Bottom line: criminals have guns regardless of which state they're in because they don't obey the law by definition. They obtain guns easily for cash with no background check and carry them concealed all the time. Laws can't stop this.

Btw in Baltimore:

Concealed carry by permit
No permit to buy a handgun
Violent rate a lot less than detroit

Bottom line it's very hard to get a gun in NYC and in 40 years it become docile.

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Quote from: vampire on March 10, 2012, 09:35:41 AM

NYC pretty much banned all weapons, the violent crime rate is low. The largest city in USA didn't even get in top 30, Detroit with CC is number one.

1) Correlations don't establish cause-and-effect
2) Cherry picking correlations in an attempt to prove one's point is disingenuous.

As Holliday pointed out, Baltimore is hard to explain away based on gun laws there. What's more, Baltimore is in Maryland, one of the most restrictive gun law states. While most states are what's called "shall issue" (i.e. states issue CC permits based purely on background check), Maryland is one of the few "may issue" states where you need a "good reason" to CC.

Bottom line: criminals have guns regardless of which state they're in because they don't obey the law by definition. They obtain guns easily for cash with no background check and carry them concealed all the time. Laws can't stop this.

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There are very few legit offers on the Armory. I mean.... Its not like I have ever been on it.. Roll Eyes

I wouldn't be too worried yet.

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