Topic: The Atlantic: Is It Time for Jews to Leave Europe? - page 2. (Read 1907 times)

cite the source please. i strongly believe this is bullshit.

@OP

fascism is on the rise again.
for example look at this forum. most of the antisemit stuff comes from white people that hide under the cloak of nationalism a la protect our country against the black/muslim/jew/refugee invasion.

It should be noted that more than 90% of the anti-semitic attacks in Europe are being perpetrated by immigrants from the Maghreb and Asia, who are having Muslim background. If Jews migrate out of Europe, then these people will find new victims. And these new victims might be the European natives. Now where they will migrate to?

True there's surely more Muslims in Europe, especially in Germany and France, but on the other hand not all Jews are openly stating their descent. Many of them changed their Jewish family names during or after the war, because it was easier to gain prominent positions, especially in politics, if you weren't seen as a foreigner.

In a sense this is true. Six million Jews can't be killed in Europe again. There are only about a million left. Getting rid of that last million won't be too hard. To kill six million again you have to give support to people to kill Jews in Israel.

Palestinian population vs. Jewish population isn't a good comparison, I think. There are many more Muslims in Europe than Jews. A quick search leads me to estimate that there are roughly 50 times as many Muslims in Europe as Jews (excluding Turkey). In addition, the Muslim population is growing while the Jewish population is...escaping.

Roughly half the money for those Palestinian schools teaching Jew hatred comes from Europeans. This is partly an attempt to pacify their Muslim minority populations. It's also partly a continuation of Jew hatred that's been part of European culture for centuries. It's also partly a recognition that the future of Europe will be Muslim majority and Judenrein.

And what does it have to do with Europe and Jews feeling uncomfortable there. I'd say we have 5 times more Jews in Europe than Palestinians and I doubt the continent has become more dangerous than it was for instance 80 years ago.

You might be interested in this thread:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012231.0;all

There are also many people there who believe land is owned by ethnic groups (as in "Arab land") rather than by individuals. There are people there as well who only talk about Israelis responding to Palestinian terrorism without mentioning the terrorism itself. You can make some friends.

Hate may also be nourished from watching the news telling Jews are seizing Arab land, and/or killing Palestinians.

This is true. And it's paid for by billions of dollars of aid from around the world. I used to wonder why people go along with it. It didn't make sense to me for years. It makes a lot more sense if you start thinking those around the world giving the aid want Palestinian children to be taught to hate and kill Jews.

And for many that contact comes early in life. Young children taught by teachers in Palestinian schools to hate the jew.

U.S. to Start Training Nazi Troops in Ukraine, on April 20th, Hitler’s Birthday

Eric Zuesse

It has just been announced that, on April 20th (Hitler’s birthday), U.S. troops will start training troops of Ukraine’s nazi Azov Battalion.

The Azov Battalion was founded and its members were selected by Andrei Biletsky, a Ukrainian nazi (that’s an ideological term, meaning racist fascist — not a term referring specifically to the first political party with that particular ideology, the National Socialist Party of Germany). When Britain’s Guardian interviewed members, the reporter was shocked to find that they’re nazis (“neo-Nazis”).

Biletsky proudly explains his ideology as follows:

“Social Nationalism is based on a number of fundamental principles that clearly distinguish it from other right-wing movements. This triad is: socialism, racism, imperialism. … On the principle of socialism [in the sense that Hitler used it] follows our complete negation of democracy and liberalism. … Instead there is natural selection of the best representatives of the Nation — born-leaders as Ukraine’s leaders. … Racism: All our nationalism is nothing — just a castle in the sand — without reliance on the foundationstone of blood Races. …

“The historic mission of our Nation, a watershed in this century, is thus to lead the White peoples of the world in the final crusade for their survival. It is to lead the war against Semites and the sub-humans they use.  … Social Nationalism raises to shield all old Ukrainian Aryan values, forgotten in modern society.”

Biletsky founded the Azov Battalion soon after Obama’s February 2014 coup in Kiev, which was led by Andriy Parubiy, who had co-founded the Social Nationalist Party of Ukraine. Parubiy’s masked men in the coup dressed as if they were Ukrainian security forces, and fired onto demonstrators during the Maidan demonstrations against Ukraine’s President Viktor Yanukovych. They were paid by the CIA at the U.S. Embassy, and they included both foreign mercenaries and troops who had been trained by Dmitriy Yarosh, who had founded another of Ukraine’s nazi parties, this one called Right Sector. Most of the coup’s perpetrators were members of Right Sector, which, in addition to being a party, has an estimated 7,000 troops of its own, who were trained under Yarosh’s command. ... more

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2015/04/u-s-train-nazi-troops-ukraine-starting-april-20th.html

I totally agree with Aggressor66. The hatred is not taught in schools. You learn on the streets, on television, in newspapers, on the internet about everything. It is our personality that should not be influenced.

My brother wrote that, he is using my account sometimes

almost all the violence in europe against jews is carried out by muslims, the same third world trash who are being imposed on europe by jewish cultural marxists who tell us everyone is equal and europeans are racist for wanting to keep them out. irony at its finest

go, stay, its all the same to me as long as they can be kicked out of positions of power and no longer run our politics, film studios and newspapers.

nothing to do with jews themselves of course

It's all part of the picture and has been building for many years. Bat Ye'or wrote a good book named "Eurabia" about the topic many years ago. Europe's turning into exactly want it wants to become, and part of what has always wanted to become is Judenrein.

Is that how it happened to you? I mean, you did just compare a "Jewish group" who pointed out that Jihadis advocate killing Jews and actually kill Jews...to Nazis...instead of comparing the Jihadis who kill Jews to Nazis.



Is the "right message" to learn from the Holocaust to ignore and excuse Jew hatred and Jew killing? To lie about it as long as possible? Jews are being killed. Today. Because of you.

Obviously not all Muslims are Jihadis, and I don't think the ad in that other thread suggests that. Some Muslims are Jihadis and kill Jews. Some Muslims are lying about what Jihad means in order to provide cover for the active Jihadis. They should all be called out. The people doing the calling out are not like the Nazis. You said they were.

People are not born with a jew-hating gene.  Hate is learned from contact with jew haters.  It is essentially an oral tradition.  At least that is the theory that I'm working on.

Most Europeans aren't exactly happy w/ all the wars that have been going on in the middle east for so long and many of the immigrants to Europe are arabs. I'd imagine that between the two parties, there's likely plenty of blame that they put at Israel's door for being the main component for much of the action going on over there. Just speculating of course.

Last month I read an article in The Atlantic by Jeffrey Goldberg (a Jew!) titled "Is It Time for the Jews to Leave Europe?" It's disturbing to see how dangerous Europe is today for the Jews who have remained. It's not even safe to visit the Anne Frank House in Amsterdam.

There's a lot of Jew hatred on this forum,  so I guess I should intice you to read it in a different way. Read this so you can masturbate while thinking about how dangerous Europe is for Jews in 2015. If you guys keep it up, maybe it'll be this dangerous in the rest of the places in the world that still allow Jews to live there. And then after that maybe you'll finally get what you want: a world free of Jews.

http://www.theatlantic.com/features/archive/2015/03/is-it-time-for-the-jews-to-leave-europe/386279/