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December 05, 2019, 04:46:18 AM
That is one hell of a job for TMAN to find court docs about OGnasty. Its almost like he has a vendetta against him or something


Although he also said they were very happy anyway...

You are confusing that, he said they were very happy anyway when that butterfly labs things happened that he invested the mining btc? or was it when he did the reverse splits on the seats or something like that?

If TMAN made a book of all of the posts hes made of the effy things OG has done, it would be at least 100 pages lol
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December 05, 2019, 04:36:51 AM






ouch.. so I see this as a few scenarios...

based on the fact that OG has 0 credibility after the airdrop fiasco..

1) og told the thruth and repaid everyone(whilst being sneaky and not announcing he got a full payout)
2) og paid out only the reserve and pocketed the full refund
3) the courts docs are lies


we need full TRANSPARENCY of OBSERVABLE instances of "tacky" behavior

It's not 1.  He confirmed at least some people took a hit when the scam was confirmed.  Although he also said they were very happy anyway...  

no way... so he has admitted to only paying out the reserve? do you have the post for proof?

if so that is more than just "tacky" that's just plain fucking SKAMMAN

wow - we all (the whole forum minus TOAA and those who have bags of nastyshares/seats & theymos) knew that OG was a bit of a snake oil salesman.. but this is next level shit

fucking popcorn gif please !
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December 05, 2019, 04:31:17 AM






ouch.. so I see this as a few scenarios...

based on the fact that OG has 0 credibility after the airdrop fiasco..

1) og told the thruth and repaid everyone(whilst being sneaky and not announcing he got a full payout)
2) og paid out only the reserve and pocketed the full refund
3) the courts docs are lies


we need full TRANSPARENCY of OBSERVABLE instances of "tacky" behavior

It's not 1.  He confirmed at least some people took a hit when the scam was confirmed.  Although he also said they were very happy anyway...  
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December 05, 2019, 03:19:00 AM



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ouch.. so I see this as a few scenarios...

based on the fact that OG has 0 credibility after the airdrop fiasco..

1) og told the thruth and repaid everyone(whilst being sneaky and not announcing he got a full payout)
2) og paid out only the reserve and pocketed the full refund
3) the courts docs are lies


we need full TRANSPARENCY of OBSERVABLE instances of "tacky" behavior
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December 04, 2019, 10:18:20 PM
Law enforcement definitely has the information on passthrough programs and they know Og was involved.  They probably didn't go after him because it wasn't that much money.

OGNasty was basically picking up the scraps compared to what Pirateat was doing.  His pitch was basically (and I'm paraphrasing here):  "pirateat is an asset to the community, you should invest with him if you can!  If you don't have enough money or an invite though, I'll help you out!"

Good to know you speak for the police now too. Catch you later Captain Hindsight.



Not speaking for the police.  I just researched what happened.  You could too, if you wanted.  I've already given you all the info you need to verify what I'm saying is true.

It's frustrating having to spell everything out for you, but here you go:


https://i.gyazo.com/d899021656a9b7d9636f5de683ee298d.png

https://i.gyazo.com/92559a4e2d062d5e85fa4d9176bc6478.png




Yet you just did speak for the actions of the police nonetheless. OOO court documents, very official! Clearly everything you say is true, you referenced official court documents after all.
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December 04, 2019, 09:46:26 PM
Law enforcement definitely has the information on passthrough programs and they know Og was involved.  They probably didn't go after him because it wasn't that much money.

OGNasty was basically picking up the scraps compared to what Pirateat was doing.  His pitch was basically (and I'm paraphrasing here):  "pirateat is an asset to the community, you should invest with him if you can!  If you don't have enough money or an invite though, I'll help you out!"

Good to know you speak for the police now too. Catch you later Captain Hindsight.



Not speaking for the police.  I just researched what happened.  You could too, if you wanted.  I've already given you all the info you need to verify what I'm saying is true.

It's frustrating having to spell everything out for you, but here you go:














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December 04, 2019, 09:24:22 PM
Law enforcement definitely has the information on passthrough programs and they know Og was involved.  They probably didn't go after him because it wasn't that much money.

OGNasty was basically picking up the scraps compared to what Pirateat was doing.  His pitch was basically (and I'm paraphrasing here):  "pirateat is an asset to the community, you should invest with him if you can!  If you don't have enough money or an invite though, I'll help you out!"

Good to know you speak for the police now too. Catch you later Captain Hindsight.

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December 04, 2019, 08:27:18 PM
The stream of accusations (mind you all by the same people) are not well documented

Well, I think I documented his involvement with the biggest crypto ponzi scheme pretty well.  He profited well over BTC1,000 by collecting funds and sending them to a ponzi scheme (pirateat40) and paying out less than the ponzi scheme was paying.  When the ponzi scheme went down, his 'reserve' fund of less than 5% or what had been collected was returned to investors.  (We don't know exactly how much because he deleted all the posts and won't say).

I'm not 'team lauda' either, btw:
 I do not endorse any website in my signature.<--Hey Lauda, That's Bullshit

Unlike you I was there back then and saw it with my own eyes. Trendon Shavers went to prison. Do you really believe if OGNasty was an active and knowledgeable participant in any related crime they would have just overlooked him? You should work for the FBI or the SEC since you have such unique ability to sniff these things out that they seem unable to.

Yeah man, I literally linked an article about Trendon Shavers going to prison in the post you quoted.

OGNasty was offering 8% monthly (obviously not sustainable).  He was then sending the money he collected to pireateat who was paying out 1% daily.  When pirateat was actually paying, OG would make the 8% payment to people he gave the money to and keep the difference (around BTC500 per month for at least a couple months).  When Pirateat stopped, he paid out the 'insurance' ammount which was around 5% of the total invested, far less than the cut he took of the payments.  Then when he found out I was digging through the old threads he deleted a bunch of posts.  These are facts.

That's a ponzi on top of a ponzi.


Wow, you linked an article. Does the article answer my question why you think you have some special information law enforcement didn't? With those kinds of investigative skills you should be working for big brother, you would love it. You could dig through peoples toilet bowls looking for stray peanuts till your heart's content.

Law enforcement definitely has the information on passthrough programs and they know Og was involved.  They probably didn't go after him because it wasn't that much money.

OGNasty was basically picking up the scraps compared to what Pirateat was doing.  His pitch was basically (and I'm paraphrasing here):  "pirateat is an asset to the community, you should invest with him if you can!  If you don't have enough money or an invite though, I'll help you out!"


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December 04, 2019, 06:36:29 PM
If Theymos has a problem I assure you he doesn't need you to speak for him.

I am well aware of that sweetcheeks. check all my other posts, I have been open about OBSERVABLE instances of "tacky" behaviour by the previous sole holder of keys of 500BTC

we are all aware you cant even count to 500 so your voice/words/thoughts are about as valuable as a TOAA/Crypcunt Post.

so as I have said to others, shh.... let the adults talk - I am very interested in the difference of opinion between OGnasty and our dear leader.


"Held bitcoins" in the agreement is ambiguous as to what a "bitcoin" is, but due to the whole context of the agreement, and especially because of the full-reserve requirement, I claim that the most supportable interpretation is that all forkcoins (ie. coins forking from Bitcoin's block chain and calling themselves "Bitcoin") were forum property from the beginning.


I'm sure he would have paid the funds to me had I spoken up about it.  Just like I would have paid him whatever GBYTE had he spoken up about it.
/thread

If you are well aware of that then why are you simply repeating your selectively edited quotes? Unless the harmed party has a complaint, I really don;t give a shit what your opinion in the matter is, and you are most certainly not an ubiased bystander as you say you have been "quite open" about (read intent on slandering) OGNasty.


The stream of accusations (mind you all by the same people) are not well documented

Well, I think I documented his involvement with the biggest crypto ponzi scheme pretty well.  He profited well over BTC1,000 by collecting funds and sending them to a ponzi scheme (pirateat40) and paying out less than the ponzi scheme was paying.  When the ponzi scheme went down, his 'reserve' fund of less than 5% or what had been collected was returned to investors.  (We don't know exactly how much because he deleted all the posts and won't say).

I'm not 'team lauda' either, btw:
 I do not endorse any website in my signature.<--Hey Lauda, That's Bullshit

Unlike you I was there back then and saw it with my own eyes. Trendon Shavers went to prison. Do you really believe if OGNasty was an active and knowledgeable participant in any related crime they would have just overlooked him? You should work for the FBI or the SEC since you have such unique ability to sniff these things out that they seem unable to.

Yeah man, I literally linked an article about Trendon Shavers going to prison in the post you quoted.

OGNasty was offering 8% monthly (obviously not sustainable).  He was then sending the money he collected to pireateat who was paying out 1% daily.  When pirateat was actually paying, OG would make the 8% payment to people he gave the money to and keep the difference (around BTC500 per month for at least a couple months).  When Pirateat stopped, he paid out the 'insurance' ammount which was around 5% of the total invested, far less than the cut he took of the payments.  Then when he found out I was digging through the old threads he deleted a bunch of posts.  These are facts.

That's a ponzi on top of a ponzi.


Wow, you linked an article. Does the article answer my question why you think you have some special information law enforcement didn't? With those kinds of investigative skills you should be working for big brother, you would love it. You could dig through peoples toilet bowls looking for stray peanuts till your heart's content.
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December 04, 2019, 05:10:47 PM
The stream of accusations (mind you all by the same people) are not well documented

Well, I think I documented his involvement with the biggest crypto ponzi scheme pretty well.  He profited well over BTC1,000 by collecting funds and sending them to a ponzi scheme (pirateat40) and paying out less than the ponzi scheme was paying.  When the ponzi scheme went down, his 'reserve' fund of less than 5% or what had been collected was returned to investors.  (We don't know exactly how much because he deleted all the posts and won't say).

I'm not 'team lauda' either, btw:
 I do not endorse any website in my signature.<--Hey Lauda, That's Bullshit

Unlike you I was there back then and saw it with my own eyes. Trendon Shavers went to prison. Do you really believe if OGNasty was an active and knowledgeable participant in any related crime they would have just overlooked him? You should work for the FBI or the SEC since you have such unique ability to sniff these things out that they seem unable to.

Yeah man, I literally linked an article about Trendon Shavers going to prison in the post you quoted.

OGNasty was offering 8% monthly (obviously not sustainable).  He was then sending the money he collected to pireateat who was paying out 1% daily.  When pirateat was actually paying, OG would make the 8% payment to people he gave the money to and keep the difference (around BTC500 per month for at least a couple months).  When Pirateat stopped, he paid out the 'insurance' ammount which was around 5% of the total invested, far less than the cut he took of the payments.  Then when he found out I was digging through the old threads he deleted a bunch of posts.  These are facts.

That's a ponzi on top of a ponzi.

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December 04, 2019, 03:13:43 PM
If Theymos has a problem I assure you he doesn't need you to speak for him.

I am well aware of that sweetcheeks. check all my other posts, I have been open about OBSERVABLE instances of "tacky" behaviour by the previous sole holder of keys of 500BTC

we are all aware you cant even count to 500 so your voice/words/thoughts are about as valuable as a TOAA/Crypcunt Post.

so as I have said to others, shh.... let the adults talk - I am very interested in the difference of opinion between OGnasty and our dear leader.


"Held bitcoins" in the agreement is ambiguous as to what a "bitcoin" is, but due to the whole context of the agreement, and especially because of the full-reserve requirement, I claim that the most supportable interpretation is that all forkcoins (ie. coins forking from Bitcoin's block chain and calling themselves "Bitcoin") were forum property from the beginning.


I'm sure he would have paid the funds to me had I spoken up about it.  Just like I would have paid him whatever GBYTE had he spoken up about it.
/thread

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December 04, 2019, 03:06:00 PM
"Held bitcoins" in the agreement is ambiguous as to what a "bitcoin" is, but due to the whole context of the agreement, and especially because of the full-reserve requirement, I claim that the most supportable interpretation is that all forkcoins (ie. coins forking from Bitcoin's block chain and calling themselves "Bitcoin") were forum property from the beginning.


I'm sure he would have paid the funds to me had I spoken up about it.  Just like I would have paid him whatever GBYTE had he spoken up about it.
/thread

why is everyone ignoring the actually juicy shit here? not eddie or techcunt or anyone else..

The Dalai Lama and the accused theif are conversing - yet others are trying to confuse the whole thread with shitcunt posts - yes I am talking at you techie...

Very interesting how you decided to selectively edit that quote:

"Held bitcoins" in the agreement is ambiguous as to what a "bitcoin" is, but due to the whole context of the agreement, and especially because of the full-reserve requirement, I claim that the most supportable interpretation is that all forkcoins (ie. coins forking from Bitcoin's block chain and calling themselves "Bitcoin") were forum property from the beginning. (I do not claim this for airdrops.)

If Theymos has a problem I assure you he doesn't need you to speak for him.
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December 04, 2019, 03:00:35 PM
"Held bitcoins" in the agreement is ambiguous as to what a "bitcoin" is, but due to the whole context of the agreement, and especially because of the full-reserve requirement, I claim that the most supportable interpretation is that all forkcoins (ie. coins forking from Bitcoin's block chain and calling themselves "Bitcoin") were forum property from the beginning.


I'm sure he would have paid the funds to me had I spoken up about it.  Just like I would have paid him whatever GBYTE had he spoken up about it.
/thread

why is everyone ignoring the actually juicy shit here? not eddie or techcunt or anyone else..

The Dalai Lama and the accused theif are conversing - yet others are trying to confuse the whole thread with shitcunt posts - yes I am talking at you techie...
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December 04, 2019, 02:53:59 PM
The stream of accusations (mind you all by the same people) are not well documented

Well, I think I documented his involvement with the biggest crypto ponzi scheme pretty well.  He profited well over BTC1,000 by collecting funds and sending them to a ponzi scheme (pirateat40) and paying out less than the ponzi scheme was paying.  When the ponzi scheme went down, his 'reserve' fund of less than 5% or what had been collected was returned to investors.  (We don't know exactly how much because he deleted all the posts and won't say).

I'm not 'team lauda' either, btw:
 I do not endorse any website in my signature.<--Hey Lauda, That's Bullshit

Unlike you I was there back then and saw it with my own eyes. Trendon Shavers went to prison. Do you really believe if OGNasty was an active and knowledgeable participant in any related crime they would have just overlooked him? You should work for the FBI or the SEC since you have such unique ability to sniff these things out that they seem unable to.

Last I checked there were victims making claims in Lauda's case. Who is the victim making a claim here? Theymos seems satisfied with the resolution, who else needs to be addressed?

This is again just the same group of jackals trying to create an issue where there is none, simultaneously trying to get people to forget when they excused much worse from other users, because if people remembered it would clearly demonstrate they care only about who it targets and not the principle of the matter.

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December 04, 2019, 07:01:29 AM
OgNasty returned the forked coins when asked.  Lauda didn't return the forked coins (BCH) when asked.
That is incorrect. Forks were liquidated and merged into the pool, therefore returned. Don't pull in the fake accusations against me into such a well-documented case otherwise the attempt of misdirecting the topic is going to succeed.  Wink

"Held bitcoins" in the agreement is ambiguous as to what a "bitcoin" is, but due to the whole context of the agreement, and especially because of the full-reserve requirement, I claim that the most supportable interpretation is that all forkcoins (ie. coins forking from Bitcoin's block chain and calling themselves "Bitcoin") were forum property from the beginning. (I do not claim this for airdrops.)
Fun.
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December 04, 2019, 03:59:33 AM

I'm sure he would have paid the funds to me had I spoken up about it.  Just like I would have paid him whatever GBYTE had he spoken up about it.

/thread

Did you inform Theymos that you were going to use the forum funds to claim an airdrop? If not, how would you expect Theymos to speak up if he wasn't aware of it?
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December 04, 2019, 03:53:23 AM
The stream of accusations (mind you all by the same people) are not well documented

Well, I think I documented his involvement with the biggest crypto ponzi scheme pretty well.  He profited well over BTC1,000 by collecting funds and sending them to a ponzi scheme (pirateat40) and paying out less than the ponzi scheme was paying.  When the ponzi scheme went down, his 'reserve' fund of less than 5% or what had been collected was returned to investors.  (We don't know exactly how much because he deleted all the posts and won't say).

I'm not 'team lauda' either, btw:
 I do not endorse any website in my signature.<--Hey Lauda, That's Bullshit
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December 04, 2019, 03:19:19 AM

I was just attacked with Red trust by Lauda partially in reference to my postings in this thread.. I deserve a negative rating for speaking my mind and exploring contrary points of logic? I don't think so..
Do you want a diversity of ideas or an echo chamber?



But he says if you stop saying things he does not like/agree with he "may" later not consider you malignant .... so just turn into a lauda assfeltching clown (ask LFC, pharmacist, suchmoon, moronpigsnoz or any of those for a guide of how to perform) and you may get the red trust removed.

Red trust is very useful as the stick , merit is the carrot   - when used together the echo chamber is pretty much guaranteed.

Red trust for virtue signalling?  I thought he already warned you you may get a flag or tag for suggesting free speech should be permitted previously?

Have a care though, I mean saying the board should not become an echo chamber is kind of virtue signalling according to him since that is kind of like the same thing as permitting free speech Sad

Until these scammers and their scammer supporters are removed this will happen to anyone that

1. brings up his observable pasts behaviors
2. say anything he believes may impact upon his rev streams here.


Anyway good to see OG has come and explained his side of it. Seems to be the end of the matter I guess.

Seeing the quote TMAN plastered by OG all over this thread makes me wonder why OG ever removed laudas red trust. I mean that is just 1 incident when you start to realize that is the slim edge of the scamming wedge if lauda does not warrant red trust NO member deserves red trust.

Him and ANY DT including him should be blacklisted by now.

I mean the initial post was really just about the forked bitcoin alts right? unless this was a set up from the start.
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December 04, 2019, 02:49:19 AM
And many of the people that attacked Lauda were silent  or vigorously defended OGNasty and his history of ponzi schemes and other lies.  Not really related to the topic though.

Nobody is accusing OG of actually scamming here in regards to the Treasury funds, just acting a little slimy.

You sure do love false equivalence don't you? Lauda's fraud is well documented. The stream of accusations (mind you all by the same people) are not well documented and consist of a string of accusations based on the creative interpretations of those with a grudge against him. None of the accusations against him are supported with evidence, only attempts at operant conditioning via repetition.
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December 04, 2019, 02:38:11 AM
I find it interesting a lot of the most vocal people here attacking OG Nasty were silent when this exact scenario occurred under Lauda's custody.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/lauda-minerjones-blazed-missing-escrow-funds-4895354
I was referring to the fork coins only, not the rest of the circumstances.
I don't know much about the Lauda drama, but I know enough to know the forked coins were handled very different in each scenario (OG / Lauda).
OgNasty returned the forked coins when asked.  Lauda didn't return the forked coins (BCH) when asked.

Absolutely. Yet many of the same people who vigorously defended Lauda, or were silent in that case are here attacking OGNasty.

And many of the people that attacked Lauda were silent  or vigorously defended OGNasty and his history of ponzi schemes and other lies.  Not really related to the topic though.

Nobody is accusing OG of actually scamming here in regards to the Treasury funds, just acting a little slimy.
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