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Topic: The believe that because of Bitcoin limited supply the price will rise is a myth (Read 488 times)

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Let's suppose that for some reason the supply of potato drastically decreases all around the world. Does that mean that people will pay 10.000 dollars for a potato or give up their cars just to get a potato? Of course not. This is because the utility of consuming a potato - the want-satisfying power of a potato is much smaller than that of a car or of 10.000 dollars worth of goods or services. In other words, from the mere fact that the supply of something is limited it does not follow that the price will soar.

In comparison to a potato, Bitcoin is not even a physical tangible good that can be used for satisfying human wants or needs, and its only utility is that it functions as a medium of exchange. So, just because Bitcoin supply is limited, that does not mean its price will rise. People will NOT pay enormous amounts of money just to have a medium of exchange function, especially if this function is equally available whether the price of Bitcoin is 1 cent or 7.000 dollars, and if this function can be realized with various alternative cryptos or fiat money.

Supply depletion is not the main cause of price inflation, demand influences it also. If the supply keeps reduced and the demands are low it won’t create inflation. Then the usage dependence, in this case Bitcoin, won’t be as simple as changing it to altcoin even to anything else. The huge amount of altcoins could break the market so there will be no market centralization could make transactions difficult.
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Bitcoin has no intrinsic value. It has utility.It quickly transfers the cost equivalent over long distances cheaply and reliably.The number of bitcoin users is constantly increasing. This means that the usefulness and value of bitcoin is growing in the same proportion.The more nodes in the bitcoin network the more expensive will be its unit of account.Bitcoin exchange rate fluctuations depend solely on the market mechanism.Demand is constantly growing and this entails an increase in the market value of bitcoin.
I have long ago come to the conclusion that after the production of all 21 million bitcoins, its price will not grow just because its offer on the market will decrease. As it is rightly said, bitcoin is a utility, a shell that allows you to quickly transfer the equivalent of the value of money over long distances. Already, there are many digital coins that provide the same services as bitcoin, much cheaper and faster. Why would I need to pay tens of thousands of dollars for what I can do for a few dollars using another crypto currency?

Bitcoin still has a value storage function. However, if it costs a very large amount, then people will be afraid to lose it and with different negative information, which even theoretically can affect the price of bitcoin, some people will immediately sell their bitcoins. This will produce a real drop in its rate, as the supply on the market will increase. The fall of the course along with negative information can cause panic, after which the rate of bitcoin will rapidly decline, down to depreciation. As a result, bitcoin will very badly perform the function of storing value, this value will be too unstable and problematic.
legendary
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Let's suppose that for some reason the supply of potato drastically decreases all around the world. Does that mean that people will pay 10.000 dollars for a potato or give up their cars just to get a potato? Of course not. This is because the utility of consuming a potato - the want-satisfying power of a potato is much smaller than that of a car or of 10.000 dollars worth of goods or services. In other words, from the mere fact that the supply of something is limited it does not follow that the price will soar.

In comparison to a potato, Bitcoin is not even a physical tangible good that can be used for satisfying human wants or needs, and its only utility is that it functions as a medium of exchange. So, just because Bitcoin supply is limited, that does not mean its price will rise. People will NOT pay enormous amounts of money just to have a medium of exchange function, especially if this function is equally available whether the price of Bitcoin is 1 cent or 7.000 dollars, and if this function can be realized with various alternative cryptos or fiat money.
Dependency cannot be eliminated just like that, there must be people who want to pay with equal price to use it. Especially about Cryptocoin, so many altcoins so the users are scattered to various altcoins that previously incorporated in Bitcoin. Transactions between Coins are troublesome, aren’t they? Therefore the demand won’t be easily to break when the price is high and the supply is also become lesser.
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Yes i would agree this fact and its a reality on ground as well.Due to limited supply, it depends on big players when they enter and leave the market ,thats where the whole concept of supply and demand enters and we see  price rise or drop .IF many of them are selling that would make the price gain or lose and vice versa.
hero member
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Let's suppose that for some reason the supply of potato drastically decreases all around the world. Does that mean that people will pay 10.000 dollars for a potato or give up their cars just to get a potato? Of course not. This is because the utility of consuming a potato - the want-satisfying power of a potato is much smaller than that of a car or of 10.000 dollars worth of goods or services. In other words, from the mere fact that the supply of something is limited it does not follow that the price will soar.

In comparison to a potato, Bitcoin is not even a physical tangible good that can be used for satisfying human wants or needs, and its only utility is that it functions as a medium of exchange. So, just because Bitcoin supply is limited, that does not mean its price will rise. People will NOT pay enormous amounts of money just to have a medium of exchange function, especially if this function is equally available whether the price of Bitcoin is 1 cent or 7.000 dollars, and if this function can be realized with various alternative cryptos or fiat money.

So what you mean is, if Bitcoin is too expensive then nobody wants to use Bitcoin anymore? Hmm I don’t think so, as long as people still use it, especially if people already dependent to use Bitcoin then Bitcoin will still be used. People above me might true who suggest you to learn about economics deeper.
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Let's suppose that for some reason the supply of potato drastically decreases all around the world. Does that mean that people will pay 10.000 dollars for a potato or give up their cars just to get a potato? Of course not. This is because the utility of consuming a potato - the want-satisfying power of a potato is much smaller than that of a car or of 10.000 dollars worth of goods or services. In other words, from the mere fact that the supply of something is limited it does not follow that the price will soar.

In comparison to a potato, Bitcoin is not even a physical tangible good that can be used for satisfying human wants or needs, and its only utility is that it functions as a medium of exchange. So, just because Bitcoin supply is limited, that does not mean its price will rise. People will NOT pay enormous amounts of money just to have a medium of exchange function, especially if this function is equally available whether the price of Bitcoin is 1 cent or 7.000 dollars, and if this function can be realized with various alternative cryptos or fiat money.

Are you being stupid man? Why are you comparing Bitcoin to a potato? Potato is a food and Bitcoin more or less is a currency, Digital Currency to be exact. If you want to compare Bitcoin, you should at least compare it to gold or silver because this 2 is a currency base material.
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in the crypto world we can not convict this fact or mythos. let us review 1 year backward, bitcoin users continue to grow is a fact in economic law where the more demand of an item while inventory limited goods will automatically increase price, bitcoin whose number is limited while its users continue to grow making bitcoin prices continue to rise if we review from the year before it
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Let's suppose that for some reason the supply of potato drastically decreases all around the world. Does that mean that people will pay 10.000 dollars for a potato or give up their cars just to get a potato? Of course not. This is because the utility of consuming a potato - the want-satisfying power of a potato is much smaller than that of a car or of 10.000 dollars worth of goods or services. In other words, from the mere fact that the supply of something is limited it does not follow that the price will soar.

In comparison to a potato, Bitcoin is not even a physical tangible good that can be used for satisfying human wants or needs, and its only utility is that it functions as a medium of exchange. So, just because Bitcoin supply is limited, that does not mean its price will rise. People will NOT pay enormous amounts of money just to have a medium of exchange function, especially if this function is equally available whether the price of Bitcoin is 1 cent or 7.000 dollars, and if this function can be realized with various alternative cryptos or fiat money.
I disagree with OP because the limited in supply of bitcoin was the main thing that make the price surge ever since bitcoin creation. However, in economics what lead to scarcity is insufficiency or short supply of substance or commodity.
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It is not myth in my opinion and it can be one of the strongest reason behind bitcoin touching a million mark in future.Rest depends on demand for bitcoins in coming years.
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If there is a limit to the value of things, its value should be unlimited. It's good for long-term investment.

legendary
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I am not claiming that a potato will not be worth as much as the highest bidder is willing to pay for it. I am instead claiming that the price of a potato will always return to value determined by its utility.

Just like the gold's value returned to the utility-only value? Just like Chateau d'Yquem ($50k/bottle) is now worth same as any other wine sold at supermarket? Just like you can now buy white truffles at $1/kg?

Price is determined by supply and demand. Scarcity is a factor that drives the price up - whether you want to accept it or not. Utility itself won't automatically create monetary value, for the same reason you won't pay for air, even know it has huge utility - it keeps you alive.


The prices of the goods you mentioned didn't rise 200,000,000 percent from their utility value, while the Bitcoin's prices did. Regarding scarcity, it is true that scarcity is a factor that drives the price up, but the utility provided by bitcoin is not scarce, since people can create an infinite number of digital currencies that will serve as means of exchange. If 21 million grains of sand are put into a box and a limitation is set that this is the maximum number of grains that can be put into the box, this artificial constraint won't make these grains scarce or valuable. This is because people can create their own boxes, fill them with sand and set their own quantitative limitations. Why would people pay 10,000 dollars for a grain of sand in your box if they can make their own boxes with sand in them? Likewise, why would people pay 10,000 dollars for numerical values in your digital box if they can design their own digital boxes with numerical values in them? You people live in a fantasy world. When you wake up, it will be too late.


If your logic is true then why are people using bitcoin at all? Many people do create crapcoins but they're largely worthless or or worth very little. Why would people use gold when they can use silver? Why use silver when you can use bronze? Why use bronze when you can use aluminum? Why use aluminum when you can use clay? Why use clay when you can use something else you just made up? Why buy stocks in Berkshire Hathaway when you can buy stocks by the thousands in a brand new startup? Why is the Mona Lisa worth something when an exact copy painted by somebody else is worthless or worth very little? Why do people value some art more than others? Why does anything have value? It has value because people place value upon it just like anything else.
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What about gold? Why the price is so high? It is a metal after all.. Why some painting were sold for millions? They are just painting after all.. Why bitcoin should grow? It is just an unique currency owned by anyone after all..
Ps. Many btc were lost also Wink
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What you tried to sayings pure economics. But the problem is, Potato is a commodity that reduce our hunger. It has many supplements. Whereas, Bitcoin is not a commodity but a medium of exchange. It doesn’t work like any goods. Besides, I think balance between Demand and supply of Bitcoin will not drastically be hampered. Just my thought.

The bitcoin price will base on Supply and demand and this are the two most fundamental concepts in modern economics, and they have a dramatic impact on one another. If demand outstrips supply, then prices of bitcoin tend to rise. However, if supply is greater than demand, prices tend to drop. This is true in every deregulated market, and is essential for understanding the increase in Bitcoin’s price. The higher the demand for bitcoin, the higher prices will be.
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What you tried to sayings pure economics. But the problem is, Potato is a commodity that reduce our hunger. It has many supplements. Whereas, Bitcoin is not a commodity but a medium of exchange. It doesn’t work like any goods. Besides, I think balance between Demand and supply of Bitcoin will not drastically be hampered. Just my thought.
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it does make a lot of sense that an item in limited quantity will of course appreciate in price should the demand for that item increase . what will drive the demand is the benefits that bitcoins provide at this moment in time
1. its the most dominant and is the major crypto,
2. it is decentralized and basically somewhat untraceable
3. most trusted crypto at this point in time
these three features is what will maintain the demand and cause the prices to rise ,these three features are very important to people especially persons who engage in multi million dollar transactions daily.
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You shouldn't compare bitcoin with a potato.
If a potato price reaches 10000 dollar, I won't buy potato any more. And note that a potato will never reach 10000 dollar. Because there will be no demand at very lower prices.
You should compare bitcoin with something else like a house. You need a house and you have to pay for it. If a house becomes very expensive, then you will buy a smaller house.

Big house = bitcoin
The smallest house = Satoshi
newbie
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you shout research more my friend, i am not only saying you, it is for all of us, if we do research deeply and then post here it will be very helpful for all of us.
hero member
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No one actually knows what is going to happen in the future weather it's a myth or not bitcoin is really a good innovation to the world and i can disagree of it being any sort of bubble , till now most coins price is compared with it's supply bitcoin has surely been an exception but you never really know what the future holds
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I do not believe that a limited supply of bitcoin will make bitcoin rising is a myth, otherwise I strongly believe if the total supply of bitcoin is limited and bitcoin enthusiasts so much the price of bitoin aoan keeps going up. Everyone knows that. Even if the supply of a particular commodity / supply is very limited, as long as nobody wants it, bitcoin will not cost a bit, but if bitcoin is a lot of people who bother bitcoin then bitcoin prices will continue to rise.
sr. member
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Supply will stay the same, demand will effect the price. Demand of bitcoin has grown over the years so price has risen.

To only think of it as a medium of exchange I think is somewhat narrow minded.

border-less
store of value similar to gold

Those two alone I think will yield ever increasing demand.
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