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Topic: The Bitcoin Blackjack ♦️ Bitjack | Try the Beta - page 2. (Read 488 times)

newbie
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give another promocode
copper member
Activity: 18
Merit: 0
I think you should close the project and not waste your time and money.
I don't see any point in playing in your project.
If I borrow $ 1000 and win $ 2000, I understand that I will not be able to withdraw.
I generally keep quiet about the maximum rate.
legendary
Activity: 1568
Merit: 6660
bitcoincleanup.com / bitmixlist.org
Mmm, the cards are picked randomly, any ideas of how demonstrate that the house does not have any edge?  Huh

I want to increase the bankroll and the max bet but I'm a little bit afraid  Undecided

I used your second promo code to do successive 50bit max bets - inside the same room I used last time - until I went bust. Ended up losing it all after just 2 hands  Smiley

Try running a test version of your casino locally, generate and keep betting 10bits bets, like 5000 of them, then record how many of each you won or lost (disregard all "push" results for this study).

If you get more losses than wins then you have a positive house edge, otherwise you have a negative house edge and you should immediately inspect your RNG to see if it has any flaws that are making such predictable numbers.
newbie
Activity: 11
Merit: 0
3. Your slogan Hack us you mean you're pretty sure your code is secured, but why you still faced a vulnerability in your casino?

OK that's like putting a huge bullseye for hackers on your casino.

Just for information you can use this sites https://www.toolsley.com/hash.html to validate the cards hash, just copy the deck cards and you will see an exact hash on SHA256 to validate.

I would host this locally if it's even possible, because as I mentioned in a previous post, DNS hijacking is a real thing and can send back different validations or even hashes. Do not make a network request to that resource in production.



@roynx98

I noticed you posted a 50 bits promo code here just now but removed it. I'm the one that used it (I think they're still one-time use?).

I wanted to see how your bankroll would withstand a few bets so I was gambling 10 bits at a time for most hands.

As I expected, I eventually lost all that bonus money after going as high as 110 bits at one point. So it at least makes me feel better that you have some kind of house edge.

I'm not too comfortable that you set the Blackjack payout to 30 bits. I know it's rare, and a streak of losing (as in theoretically impossible to win) hands swallowed all those bits - including a 50bits bet I placed towards the end of the run after a series of 10 bits, but consider the possibility of someone striking lucky and hits blackjack getting the triple payout and immediately withdrawing.

Given that 50bits is the max bet, a 150bits win can still punch a huge hole in your [now depleted] bankroll.

Mmm, the cards are picked randomly, any ideas of how demonstrate that the house does not have any edge?  Huh

I want to increase the bankroll and the max bet but I'm a little bit afraid  Undecided
legendary
Activity: 1568
Merit: 6660
bitcoincleanup.com / bitmixlist.org
3. Your slogan Hack us you mean you're pretty sure your code is secured, but why you still faced a vulnerability in your casino?

OK that's like putting a huge bullseye for hackers on your casino.

Just for information you can use this sites https://www.toolsley.com/hash.html to validate the cards hash, just copy the deck cards and you will see an exact hash on SHA256 to validate.

I would host this locally if it's even possible, because as I mentioned in a previous post, DNS hijacking is a real thing and can send back different validations or even hashes. Do not make a network request to that resource in production.



@roynx98

I noticed you posted a 50 bits promo code here just now but removed it. I'm the one that used it (I think they're still one-time use?).

I wanted to see how your bankroll would withstand a few bets so I was gambling 10 bits at a time for most hands.

As I expected, I eventually lost all that bonus money after going as high as 110 bits at one point. So it at least makes me feel better that you have some kind of house edge.

I'm not too comfortable that you set the Blackjack payout to 30 bits. I know it's rare, and a streak of losing (as in theoretically impossible to win) hands swallowed all those bits - including a 50bits bet I placed towards the end of the run after a series of 10 bits, but consider the possibility of someone striking lucky and hits blackjack getting the triple payout and immediately withdrawing.

Given that 50bits is the max bet, a 150bits win can still punch a huge hole in your [now depleted] bankroll.
newbie
Activity: 11
Merit: 0
I like the concept of your casino, but the bad thing is you'll be hard or impossible to get a gambling license. This make people is hard to trust your sites since there're so many thing need to be answered in public.

1. How we can sure the user ID generated on your URL is safe? is there any way to gambling?
2. Can you add 2FA before user can log in with unique code generated/UID?
3. Your slogan Hack us you mean you're pretty sure your code is secured, but why you still faced a vulnerability in your casino?

Just for information you can use this sites https://www.toolsley.com/hash.html to validate the cards hash, just copy the deck cards and you will see an exact hash on SHA256 to validate.


Than you  Cheesy, Yes the gambling license it will be hard  Embarrassed

I'll answer your questions:

1) No, there is no way to verify it. It's just a bunch of random data. The id can be anything, even you can create you own, just modify the string and it will be another account.
    maybe i'll change it, I think all the ids can start from a seed so anybody can very them.
2) Interesting  Cool it can be a good addition.
3) Hehe, it was just a mock, I can not guarantee the security of the site at this moment ,  I'm working alone in this project and just on my free time

Thank you for sharing the SHA256 tool  Smiley
newbie
Activity: 11
Merit: 0
The bankroll was around 3000 bits, I've lost most of it  Embarrassed, there is a vulnerability, the max bet is just 100 bits, but the people hacked it to bet more.

Based on the bet history, most bets that are higher than 100 bits were lost bets. I did not check all pages of the bets history but I can see some 10,000 bits losing bets. Shouldn't you make some profit from those 10,000 bits losing bets? That's even 3x bigger than your bankroll. Coming up to the word "hacked", is it appropriate to accuse player hack your site while there is no rules on your site about the max bet? You allow the bets and there are losing bets too, how can it be called by hacked?

The thing is that game does not allow you to make beats greater than 100 bits,
but it seems that someone modified the request to make it bigger, and our backend code had some error to validate it.

So we did not make any profit, those bet were fakes.
newbie
Activity: 11
Merit: 0
Perhaps put this project on hold for the moment?

Doesn't look the best on your brand if you put out an unfinished product that can't even be used properly.

Also, I'd highly suggest that you start with a higher bankroll - 100 bit max bet is a joke, this is the base bet for a lot of players.

Yes, it was bad   Cry, sorry, the problem was that the house money was empty due to the over bets,
so if you win it would be impossible to pay you but It's already fixed.

I want to increase the bankroll and the max bet, just I want to make sure that there are not vulnerabilities.
legendary
Activity: 1820
Merit: 1207
I like the concept of your casino, but the bad thing is you'll be hard or impossible to get a gambling license. This make people is hard to trust your sites since there're so many thing need to be answered in public.

1. How we can sure the user ID generated on your URL is safe? is there any way to verify it?
2. Can you add 2FA before user can log in with unique code generated/UID?
3. Your slogan Hack us you mean you're pretty sure your code is secured, but why you still faced a vulnerability in your casino?

Just for information you can use this sites https://www.toolsley.com/hash.html to validate the cards hash, just copy the deck cards and you will see an exact hash on SHA256 to validate.
legendary
Activity: 1568
Merit: 6660
bitcoincleanup.com / bitmixlist.org
Based on the bet history, most bets that are higher than 100 bits were lost bets. I did not check all pages of the bets history but I can see some 10,000 bits losing bets. Shouldn't you make some profit from those 10,000 bits losing bets? That's even 3x bigger than your bankroll.

If anything, the majority of those bits would be going to the bankroll, not his pocket - Only house edge profits (they are usually subtracted from the total bet whether it's a win or a loss) can be pocketed by the house.

So that would make to be several hundred bits at the highest.

hero member
Activity: 1022
Merit: 517
The bankroll was around 3000 bits, I've lost most of it  Embarrassed, there is a vulnerability, the max bet is just 100 bits, but the people hacked it to bet more.

Based on the bet history, most bets that are higher than 100 bits were lost bets. I did not check all pages of the bets history but I can see some 10,000 bits losing bets. Shouldn't you make some profit from those 10,000 bits losing bets? That's even 3x bigger than your bankroll. Coming up to the word "hacked", is it appropriate to accuse player hack your site while there is no rules on your site about the max bet? You allow the bets and there are losing bets too, how can it be called by hacked?
hero member
Activity: 1008
Merit: 531
Perhaps put this project on hold for the moment?

Doesn't look the best on your brand if you put out an unfinished product that can't even be used properly.

Also, I'd highly suggest that you start with a higher bankroll - 100 bit max bet is a joke, this is the base bet for a lot of players.
hero member
Activity: 2268
Merit: 669
Bitcoin Casino Est. 2013
welcome I'm glad with your honesty regarding the 3mbtc bankroll and happy also with the new gambling website but 3 mbtc bankroll will not be able to compete with other gambling websites ,the maximum bet is also very small ! I used to often see sites without registration that could directly play using a URL ID code like that not something new for me but hearing that 3 mbtc bankroll is a new thing for me ! how can gamblers trust and playing on your site with that bankroll
Stedsm may be right that op is only testing the site or it could be the truth about the bankroll. Op doesn't have a choice but to look for investors but the problem is if op can attract investors or not. I think it may work if op will run a fundraising and have own token or coin for the site use.
hero member
Activity: 2156
Merit: 531
welcome I'm glad with your honesty regarding the 3mbtc bankroll and happy also with the new gambling website but 3 mbtc bankroll will not be able to compete with other gambling websites ,the maximum bet is also very small ! I used to often see sites without registration that could directly play using a URL ID code like that not something new for me but hearing that 3 mbtc bankroll is a new thing for me ! how can gamblers trust and playing on your site with that bankroll
legendary
Activity: 3052
Merit: 1273

1 Bit = 100 Satoshis
So in this case, 100 Bits being the max bet was worth 10k Satoshis (BTC0.0001) bet and 3k Bits was his website's entire bankroll = 3,00,000 Satoshis (BTC0.003)
I was amazed to see how a person can promote his website without complete details about his bonus promo (didn't tell in OP that it was a one-time-use code) and then came the bankroll size which was a joke. He must have told us that he is "testing" his site's vulnerabilities and exploits before launching fully or who knows if he's got that 3k bits only in the website's bankroll!  Embarrassed
hero member
Activity: 3178
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www.Crypto.Games: Multiple coins, multiple games
Checked your site out and loved the clean design of your site, but the performance definitely needs improvement. Certain sections took a lot of time to load despite the fact that my internet speed is around 300 Mbps.

Also, the help or FAQ section needs to answer additional queries such as minimum deposit, minimum withdrawal, house edge etc.

Liked the quick registration process which isn't exactly unique, but helpful nevertheless. Also, you should have done more research regarding max bets etc as some of the posters above mentioned op.
legendary
Activity: 1568
Merit: 6660
bitcoincleanup.com / bitmixlist.org
This is your periodic reminder to never launch with a max bet that is not small enough compared to your bankrolll.

Your max bet should be many, many times smaller than your bankroll.

E.g. Let's suppose I have a bankroll of $1000 (I know it's a terribly low amount, but this is what some people have to work with).

If I make the max bet $50, then people can bet 20 times (and win all of them to finish it up.

Alternatively, if I make the max bet $20, people have to bet 50 times simultaneously.

Now let's suppose you have some probably fair game with 49% chance of winning - obviously most games have even lower probabilities than this, further reducing the chances of bankroll depletion - so that there's 1% house edge. So for those $20 bets, you will win on average 24 of them and lose the other 26.

26*$20 = +$520 that goes back to the bankroll. 24*$20 results in -$480 taken away from it (this amount includes the 1% house edge the owners [you] take as profit). That means your bankroll increased by $40.

Also, .4925 (this is 24+1, the minimum number of wins out of 50 necessary to report a net bankroll loss) is 0.00000001798465. In other words. 3.67e-8 i.e eight zeros after the decimal, or a 0.0000001798% chance that people will win more than they lose and send your bankroll down a spiral.

To put that into perspective, this will only happen every 55,602,972 * 50 = 2,780,148,626 bets: almost 3 billion bets. By comparison, Primedice (the oldest gambling site) just reached their 100 billionth bet a few days ago - over an 8 year period.

The same amounts with $50 max bet result in 9 wins against 11 losses. With -$450 against +$550 = +$100 net increase of bankroll per 20 bets (assuming everyone bets the max bet).

But crucially, the probability of net losses in your bankroll at $50 max bets is much higher, at .4910 = 0.000797922662976 or a staggering 0.07979% chance of sinking bankroll.

And even more shockingly, this event will happen every 1,253*20 = 25,065 bets!

If your site had 1 bet being placed per minute (because it's small) then you would start noticing losses after just 17.4 days. If it was 1 bet per second like some larger sites, it wouldn't even last half of the day without a net loss.

That's why it's so important to crunch the numbers before you start because if you make your max wager too high, it won't sustain your bankroll! Even a slight decrease in max bet will lower the probability of bankroll net losses!

Almost all games have a less than 50% chance win rate or else their bankroll would keep sliding into a net loss. And the games that do have >50% chance options have less than x2 odds so it works out.

Just some bankroll management 101 for casino owners Smiley



I also recommend that for brand new casinos, that you manually approve ALL withdrawals exiting your site. That way you have the chance to see if anyone is abusing some exploits before they can make off with your bankroll. Of course, you can gradually automate smaller withdrawals (up to a certain amount) as your systems become more and more secure.



Why don't you just disable the betting buttons in your case though, so you don't have to be on other people's mercy not to play (and use the exploit against you)?


How much is a bit?  Huh
hero member
Activity: 2268
Merit: 669
Bitcoin Casino Est. 2013
Welcome to bitcointalk forum. It seems this will be your ann thread right?. I was hoping you could answer about the thread title you used. Why is it please do not play for the moment?. Why launched it if you won't let people play or check the site yet. I think it's better if you launch it when it is complete or done developing the site.
sr. member
Activity: 1848
Merit: 341
Duelbits.com
A joke gives a promo code but everyone is asking why the code can't be used? is this a limit? if yes then who has used them all. Or indeed the code is no longer valid. I tried to update the network because I thought the problem was with the internet network, but after that everyone said the same problem means the error is in the promo code.

I don't really care, maybe I still have questions about registering without having to register to enter a user name, just need to bookmark the url. Quite unique but, also quite vulnerable to loss.
legendary
Activity: 3052
Merit: 1273
Yes it's a code for a single person, The bankroll was around 3000 bits, I've lost most of it  Embarrassed, there is a vulnerability, the max bet is just 100 bits, but the people hacked it to bet more.
The account can be a nice addition maybe the two options can live together. thanks for you feedback  Smiley

Are you freakin' kidding us?
You should have mentioned that it's a one-time-only usable code and can be redeemed by one person only. However, after knowing your bankroll, I now know the reputation of your website and I'd suggest you to prepare it with a much bigger bankroll before you start to promote it as 3000 bits and a max bet of 100 bits is nothing and a gambler can win that much in a single bet if you increase the max bet to 3k bits itself.
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