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Topic: The Bitcoin Foundation-fraudsters, pedophiles, murderers ,fat fucks and scammers (Read 2910 times)

legendary
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I don't understand why it might be surprising that -- in a decentralized system -- not everyone who accepts bitcoin would bother to register with a minor service such as coin map.

To the B&M, bitcoin is just another tool to use to run their biz. What value do you expect a restaurant to get from registering upon a worldwide map?
hero member
Activity: 910
Merit: 1003
I love the protocol, but not the scumlords fucking it up. Sadly, I'm seeing reasons to believe Bitcoin was created with nefarious intent in mind, namely power/money, by entities possessing the same.
I am skeptical that bitcoin will succeed in the long term, but I do not yet see its origins with that pessimism.  Not all the time at least.  Wink

I may have missed it, but in Satoshi's paper I did not see any goal stated, other than creating a payment system without a central trusted authority.

I have not read Satoshi's conversations with his "Prophets", but the sense that I get from the Writings by the latter is that, when bitcoin was being implemented, the goal had become, more explicitly, create an economy that governments and banks could not control, within the broader libetarian goal of creating an anarchic society etc.

More recently (especially since the 2013 bubbles) bitcoin was run over by an army of crooks and scammers, attracted by the promise of huge gains, by the (presumed) anonimity of accounts, by the lack of legal rules, by the rich but gullible public, etc.  These crooks are motivated by profit, although they may be (more or less reluctant) agents of the government too.

legendary
Activity: 1918
Merit: 1570
Bitcoin: An Idea Worth Spending
Facts be told, I sometimes can be accused of the same thing, albeit I'm trying my damdest to get you folks to see outside the box oppose to remaining inside with some smelly dead cat, or a uber-purring one if such be the case. Either way, there's a droolin' dog outside trying to get in because some dude rang a bell.

Is this in regards to MtGox, the Foundation, or Bitcoin in general?

MtGox = folded disaster, or not, depending upon your view of the purpose
Foundation = full of scumbags, or not, depending on your morals
Bitcoin = paradigm shift in economic theory, or not, depending on your understanding of the tech

Isn't it all relative?

I love the protocol, but not the scumlords fucking it up. Sadly, I'm seeing reasons to believe Bitcoin was created with nefarious intent in mind, namely power/money, by entities possessing the same.
sr. member
Activity: 274
Merit: 250
Facts be told, I sometimes can be accused of the same thing, albeit I'm trying my damdest to get you folks to see outside the box oppose to remaining inside with some smelly dead cat, or a uber-purring one if such be the case. Either way, there's a droolin' dog outside trying to get in because some dude rang a bell.

Is this in regards to MtGox, the Foundation, or Bitcoin in general?

MtGox = folded disaster, or not, depending upon your view of the purpose
Foundation = full of scumbags, or not, depending on your morals
Bitcoin = paradigm shift in economic theory, or not, depending on your understanding of the tech

Isn't it all relative?
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1074
I think we must blame "Walt Disney" - Donald Duck violated Pierce and now he will violate Bitcoin.  Grin {joke}

Seriously... There is so much bad publicity around "Bitcoins" do we need more?

How is vetting done?

Oh well... We atleast know who we dealing with, in many instances, the forces behind many things are hidden.
newbie
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JaJAja, i noticed that the other night.

Especially lulzy how there are more people accepting Bitcoin in Marbella than in Santa Monica, innit?
legendary
Activity: 1918
Merit: 1570
Bitcoin: An Idea Worth Spending
The Bitcoin Foundation, folks! Convincing people they still have a inch of power.

It really won't be hard for anybody to take them down, since, dare I say it - they don't control anything. They're just idiots that make people want to label Bitcoin a different way. There's at least 20k+ Bitcoin users out there that don't want to follow their rules.

There's got to be a hell of a lot more than 20k now involved in Bitcoin

Of course there is. More than 60K merchants accept it. Over 100K people have adopted it.

And, I applaud them 60K merchants for having the wisdom to accept bitcoins, albeit said wisdom was somehow lacking when it came time to post their Bitcoins-Accepted-Here here: http://coinmap.org/



In North America, the count is shy of 2,000. Take a look at the map and see for yourself.

Then, zoom in to Santa Monica where Bitropolis is located and NOT see all the B&Ms that Brock Pierce and his cronies have yet to convince. You telling me that not even the Mighty Duck, Brock Pierce, can convince http://www.cafecrepe.com/ to accept bitcoins, given that they're located two floors below GoCoin/Incubation Center, and probably the CEOs/employees eat there on a regular basis. Like, WTF!

Then, zoom in to Las Vegas, where Michael Terpin and Brock Pierce both live and, again, NOT see a number of B&Ms that should be much higher than it is now. What is probably represented was obtained via us Bitcoin Minions, THEM wanting us to do even more, all the while them fucks lining their pockets with ill-gotten gains. Looking at you, Paymium, et al.

I dare you to name other Bitcoin entities that they themselves are NOT even on the map.

http://coinmap.org/ should be something we show to others to depict the myriad vendors that accept bitcoins. Instead, it's an embarrassment.
legendary
Activity: 1918
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Bitcoin: An Idea Worth Spending
The Bitcoin Foundation, folks! Convincing people they still have a inch of power.

It really won't be hard for anybody to take them down, since, dare I say it - they don't control anything. They're just idiots that make people want to label Bitcoin a different way. There's at least 20k+ Bitcoin users out there that don't want to follow their rules.

70% of which favor Sunlot taking over Mt Gox according to some estimates.
legendary
Activity: 1918
Merit: 1570
Bitcoin: An Idea Worth Spending
There is no faith in people,  greed always takes over.   That's the down side of crypto.

The desire for economic gain or "greed" is not a down side. Henry Ford created the Model A because he believed he could make money, the same for Edison, the Wright Brothers, Gutenberg, Steve Jobs, Bill Gates, and thousands of others that have changed the world. This desire is innate in the human species and is responsible for some of the greatest advances in history.  

Don't forget Ron Popeil was also working for an honest profit and he created some of the best infomercials in history.  Smiley

I see you have your hands in your pocket. Planning on doin' some fishin' or is something else goin' on?  Grin
hero member
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The Bitcoin Foundation, folks! Convincing people they still have a inch of power.

It really won't be hard for anybody to take them down, since, dare I say it - they don't control anything. They're just idiots that make people want to label Bitcoin a different way. There's at least 20k+ Bitcoin users out there that don't want to follow their rules.

There's got to be a hell of a lot more than 20k now involved in Bitcoin

Of course there is. More than 60K merchants accept it. Over 100K people have adopted it.

Meant to say:

Over 300K people use the forum.
full member
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The Bitcoin Foundation, folks! Convincing people they still have a inch of power.

It really won't be hard for anybody to take them down, since, dare I say it - they don't control anything. They're just idiots that make people want to label Bitcoin a different way. There's at least 20k+ Bitcoin users out there that don't want to follow their rules.

There's got to be a hell of a lot more than 20k now involved in Bitcoin
hero member
Activity: 644
Merit: 500
The Bitcoin Foundation, folks! Convincing people they still have a inch of power.

It really won't be hard for anybody to take them down, since, dare I say it - they don't control anything. They're just idiots that make people want to label Bitcoin a different way. There's at least 20k+ Bitcoin users out there that don't want to follow their rules.
legendary
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A Great Time to Start Something!
There is no faith in people,  greed always takes over.   That's the down side of crypto.

The desire for economic gain or "greed" is not a down side. Henry Ford created the Model A because he believed he could make money, the same for Edison, the Wright Brothers, Gutenberg, Steve Jobs, Bill Gates, and thousands of others that have changed the world. This desire is innate in the human species and is responsible for some of the greatest advances in history.  

Don't forget Ron Popeil was also working for an honest profit and he created some of the best infomercials in history.  Smiley
hero member
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Crypto Knight
yeah, I pretty much agree with the OP. Bitcoin Foundation = shit

Who appointed them any ? It's supposed to be decentralized and open.

At the time it was expressed that a governing arm needed to be in place to address the various three-letter agencies when they start a callin'. They called. They went. Then, they place an accused pedophile on its board, thinkin' that that's what's best for Bitcoin.

Two years ago, it was concerned madness to have Bruce Wagner in the fold. Today, it's considered madness if one questions Brock Pierce's board position, and the latter is much worst than the former.

That's madness!

Have you heard about the coup in Thailand? Bruce's plans are thwarted!  Grin
legendary
Activity: 1918
Merit: 1570
Bitcoin: An Idea Worth Spending
yeah, I pretty much agree with the OP. Bitcoin Foundation = shit

Who appointed them any ? It's supposed to be decentralized and open.

At the time it was expressed that a governing arm needed to be in place to address the various three-letter agencies when they start a callin'. They called. They went. Then, they place an accused pedophile on its board, thinkin' that that's what's best for Bitcoin.

Two years ago, it was concerned madness to have Bruce Wagner in the fold. Today, it's considered madness if one questions Brock Pierce's board position, and the latter is much worst than the former.

That's madness!
full member
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Cloud Mining & Colocation
yeah, I pretty much agree with the OP. Bitcoin Foundation = shit

Who appointed them any ? It's supposed to be decentralized and open.
hero member
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yeah, I pretty much agree with the OP. Bitcoin Foundation = shit
sr. member
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The biggest problem "inherent to capitalism" is that people do not know what it really is and they believe the crap taught it school and on TV. In case you do not know, real free-market capitalism is an ideal condition to work towards achieving..
These "capitalism would be perfect if only we were DOING IT RIGHT" pipedream arguments remind me of something... now what could it be?

Ahhh yes, fundamentalist Christianity. Wake the fuck up, capitalism is a living nightmare for most of the world, even though it's been a pretty sweet deal for Elder English-speaking White Males.

Capitalism is a Cult, and economics is the pseudo-science which supports it.

It is the direct descendant of feudalism, our last ties to an era characterized by violence, slavery, and exploitation. For god's sake we're still paying RENT in 2014!! We peasants paying LAND-LORDS for the RIGHT to LIVE in decent shelter. There are no barbarians trying to kill us these days, the LORDS do nothing to protect the LAND, yet still we PAY THEM. WHY? Tradition, ignorance, obedience, nation-state indoctrination, and stupidity - that's why.

If you want a decent future for your grandchildren to live in, you must accept that decent food, shelter, healthcare, and education are a BIRTHRIGHT for ALL HUMAN BEINGS.

Any economic philosophy - capitalism included - that tells you humans must WORK for the right to EXIST is a LIE! Capitalism is ignorance, and therefore it is evil.

"All that is required for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing"
"There is only one good: Knowledge. And one evil: Ignorance"
-Socrates

Well put, except for the "Elder English-speaking White Males" Wink

People are still reading technologically-obsolete theories (that includes Austrian economics) dating back before the Internet and before cryptocurrency. It's like wanting to go back to the telegraph for communication, or horses for transportation...
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