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Topic: The Bitcoin Wiki Modernization Project - request changes and edits here (Read 1375 times)

legendary
Activity: 1456
Merit: 3765
**In BTC since 2013**
Hello @NotATether, how is your initiative?

I now also have editing permission. In this sense, we can collaborate with you, if you are interested.
newbie
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Merit: 0
So yesterday I finally got those edit permissions I was asking for. So I am going to start an initiative to modernize the topics there by making a discussion thread here (as admins and edit-power givers rarely read this board anymore) Here is how it'll work:

The process:

- You guys (bitcointalk community members) bring together problematic pages, or pages that are just plain out-of-date on this thread
- I will make a priority queue out of them depending on how serious the problems are
- You suggest to me the appropriate modifications to make to the page
- I post a verbatim draft of the new page in code tags on this thread
- We peer-review the draft to iron out any wrong info (I'm known to edit my posts to fix spelling errors so for a serious page like Bitcoin Wik pages I do not want to do that). Scratched out due to lack of interest
- Finally, I push the changes to Bitcoin Wiki.

The queue:

Items closer to the top have a bigger priority.

- Add BIP38 info to private key page
- We need P2WSH, P2WPKH sections of P2SH and P2WPKH as soon as possible, and redirect pages with those titles to new sections in Script.
- Create Multisig and P2SH-P2WSH pages and redirect them to Script >P2SH-P2WPKH.
- Transactions page has simplified sections on P2PKH and P2SH. Make sections there for other address types and include links to Script at the end of each section.
- on the Bech32 page, Process to derive Bech32 addresses
- In the Tor page, mention that Tor V3 can be used by Core in 0.21.0



Completed items:

- BitcoinPaperWallet a likely scam - page needs updated Done!

Staff is doing a great job at mirroring new BIPs let's leave them alone.

Other suggestions? I want to hear your thoughts let's make this a long-term thing guys. This is pretty much the only hope we have for updating these pages because of how fewer people are asking for edit permissions now.

Hello! Low priority request to add us to the list companies who have implemented CoinJoin at https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/PayJoin_adoption

Suggested text:

Satoshi Coffee Co. | Receive - Yes | https://sats.coffee Bitcoin-only online coffee store

Thanks for all the editing you do and for considering this request. The more we can identify options and publicize methods to improve bitcoin privacy and fungibility, the better. Take care!
newbie
Activity: 2
Merit: 0
The entire pools section needs to be redone.
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Comparison_of_mining_pools
Pools that no longer exist, payment methods that are no longer relevant, etc.

Also there are a bunch of links on that page to pools / locations that no longer exist and should probably be removed before someone puts up something bad at one of the linked sites.

-Dave

I moved the defunct mining pools to another category. That should be a good start but I will need to scour the mining board for newer pools and add their info in there too.

Also I should really finish adding the ECC operations, and removing/marking all the multibit stuff that @fourna mentioned.

Hi,

Would i be able to get a pool added please?

The name of the pool is PEGA Pool- https://www.pega-pool.com/  

First eco-friendly pool and is mentioned on this wiki here

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mining_pool#History


Could the pool be added to the list on this page please?

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Comparison_of_mining_pools

Also to be added to the list on this page too referring to Bech32 adaption

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Bech32_adoption


If anymore information is needed i am more than happy to help and supply information for the pages. I have tried to get privileges on freenode and am still going through the process but if anyone could help and add to these pages i would be so grateful.

I am also more than happy to help modernise them two pages entirely and update them if i can get privileges or just provide all information for that page so it can be fully up to date if needed.
legendary
Activity: 2940
Merit: 3368
Crypto Swap Exchange
Starting with: https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=Mining_hardware_comparison

Horribly out of date, doesn't even list S17 and S19; I am not a mining expert so @DaveF and anyone else interest you'll have to give me input into the specs.
That's going to be a huge update [best of luck], but you can begin by using the following platforms [use ctrl + f for SHA-256]:
- Unfortunately, for some of the details you still need to go to each of the manufacturers' pages, but it's a good start.

copper member
Activity: 1330
Merit: 899
🖤😏
Do you know what happened to bitcoin address utility designed by Caldwell? It seems it was removed from his blog for some reason.
legendary
Activity: 1526
Merit: 6442
bitcoincleanup.com / bitmixlist.org
As my main website has been affected by the collateral damage from my server's network becoming unreachable (as well as some other things like my video editing operation and my background eraser service - BitcoinCleanup is hosted on another provider and is unaffected), I'll probably be spending the next few days overhauling the Wiki.

Just an FYI.  Smiley



Starting with: https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=Mining_hardware_comparison

Horribly out of date, doesn't even list S17 and S19; I am not a mining expert so @DaveF and anyone else interest you'll have to give me input into the specs. For now I'll fix the broken links and scout what I can from the Mining board.

Filling in the Butterfly Labs page, will probably use ChatGPT to save time done!

Updating number of Bitcointalk profiles on Bitcointalk wiki page done!
legendary
Activity: 1526
Merit: 6442
bitcoincleanup.com / bitmixlist.org
Wow sir NotATether, are you an admin or just the key keeper? I assume that Luke has abandoned the forum all together and won't come back after the security scandal.

No, I am not an admin.  I asked Luke to make me an editor via IRC (before he got hacked).

nanotube and somethingweird (IIRC) are the other two wiki admins besides dashjr.

Can I have access? I'd like to share some of my findings related to brute force, lattice and various other attack vectors as well as adding some info about vanity private keys, vanity public keys and pub key hashes.
I have found interesting collision attacks which could be useful for researchers, you know if someone knows of a way to attack/ collide, there is 100% certainty that some others know it as well, so it's better to share it publicly for the involved parties to come up with their solutions.


Editors cannot make other people editors, but you can ask on IRC like I did and maybe one of the other admins will enable editing on your account. But it's far easier to just post your modifications on this thread.
copper member
Activity: 1330
Merit: 899
🖤😏
Wow sir NotATether, are you an admin or just the key keeper? I assume that Luke has abandoned the forum all together and won't come back after the security scandal. Can I have access? I'd like to share some of my findings related to brute force, lattice and various other attack vectors as well as adding some info about vanity private keys, vanity public keys and pub key hashes.
I have found interesting collision attacks which could be useful for researchers, you know if someone knows of a way to attack/ collide, there is 100% certainty that some others know it as well, so it's better to share it publicly for the involved parties to come up with their solutions.
legendary
Activity: 1526
Merit: 6442
bitcoincleanup.com / bitmixlist.org
On the wiki the list of testnet faucets needs an update: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Testnet#Faucets
This post seems to have a good list of live ones: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.57912721

It's really just a bit of copy / paste for those changes.

Also the wasabi page https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Wasabi_Wallet should probably mention what they are doing now with censoring some coins / taint analysis

-Dave

All done (finally!).

But I still need to make a page for gift cards.

Also I should probably expand https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Stratum , and maybe add info about Stratum v2 as well. How did this not get any new info for almost 9 years?

Still trying to find ways to maintain both the wiki and my site & youtube presence at the same time.
legendary
Activity: 3388
Merit: 6072
Crypto Swap Exchange
I could not find it in a search but IMO a not your keys not your coins page either needs to be added to tweaked in a way that it can be found in a search.
If it is there ignore that.

Along that a nice piece on the dangers of custodial exchanges and such.

-Dave
legendary
Activity: 1526
Merit: 6442
bitcoincleanup.com / bitmixlist.org
Also the wasabi page https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Wasabi_Wallet should probably mention what they are doing now with censoring some coins / taint analysis

-Dave

For this particular wallet I need to make a history section for it, including their well-documented beginnings and updates, before I can write about the blacklisting controversy, otherwise it will look like name smearing instead of factual reporting. But I'll find time for that eventually.
legendary
Activity: 3388
Merit: 6072
Crypto Swap Exchange
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@DaveF can you give me some more gift card services links? I already listed some on my Wiki talk page (pending page creation) but I got unstable power here Tongue

Sorry have not checked here in a while.
I would use this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5208530.0;all as a good list of providers.

On the wiki the list of testnet faucets needs an update: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Testnet#Faucets
This post seems to have a good list of live ones: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.57912721

It's really just a bit of copy / paste for those changes.

Also the wasabi page https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Wasabi_Wallet should probably mention what they are doing now with censoring some coins / taint analysis

-Dave
legendary
Activity: 1526
Merit: 6442
bitcoincleanup.com / bitmixlist.org
For the PayPal page: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/PayPal
Should probably add the fact that you can now buy & sell BTC if you are in certain countries but you cannot withdraw.

This particular adjustment has been published (along with the up-to-date news about withdrawals).

From now onwards I will mark each completed request with (1) merit, so make it easier for me to see what still needs to be done.

Edit:

@DaveF can you give me some more gift card services links? I already listed some on my Wiki talk page (pending page creation) but I got unstable power here Tongue
legendary
Activity: 1526
Merit: 6442
bitcoincleanup.com / bitmixlist.org
Back on topic, do you think there should a 'prioritization' of some changes over others.
Or, do you just want to take them as they come in?

Prioritization does lead to more discussion, which means more of your time.
As they come in means something important that should have been changed in 2020 is still showing and might be there a while.

-Dave

When I saw your suggestion I had in mind the Talk pages that are associated with each wiki page, but this won't work here because its so hard for people to get edit priviliges there.

So maybe a google doc or something like that would be a good alternative. Prioritization in the OP is necessary though, but I'm not sure how I will arrange time for that. Most likely I'll keep it all in my head and leave the suggestions as they are in the thread, for now.
legendary
Activity: 3388
Merit: 6072
Crypto Swap Exchange
Slightly off topic but you might want to go to Wikipedia and look up the term masochist. I guess I missed the post where you were talking about computing like it was 1985.

Back on topic, do you think there should a 'prioritization' of some changes over others.
Or, do you just want to take them as they come in?

Prioritization does lead to more discussion, which means more of your time.
As they come in means something important that should have been changed in 2020 is still showing and might be there a while.

-Dave
legendary
Activity: 1526
Merit: 6442
bitcoincleanup.com / bitmixlist.org
Everyone:

Sorry for the delay it's taking to put changes on the Wiki, and the huge backlog of changes as a result. I'm still adjusting to life on the terminal (in case you haven't heard, I'm browsing through lynx now), and I'm still trying to get a grip on MediaWiki syntax since I got no WYSIWYG editor no more.

It's quite difficult, I still have my credentials and they should still work even through a terminal browser, thanks to the PHP-minded nature of MediaWiki kind of sites, and sooner or later we will be rolling new changes and additions off the conveyor belt.

Godspeed.
- NotATether
legendary
Activity: 3388
Merit: 6072
Crypto Swap Exchange
For the PayPal page: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/PayPal
Should probably add the fact that you can now buy & sell BTC if you are in certain countries but you cannot withdraw.

Also a page for RobinHood is needed since you can buy & sell there too. But also still not withdraw.

Probably need a page for John McAfee....just not sure what to put there....

-Dave

legendary
Activity: 1526
Merit: 6442
bitcoincleanup.com / bitmixlist.org
Thank you! Because of such enthusiasts Bit-Wiki still value.


Do you think it makes sense to make detailed instructions on how to enter the IRC channel and leave it in the message thread about the edit request? I couldn't figure out how IRC works on my own.

See ya!  Grin


Yeah, a short page explaining how IRC works, how IRC clients work, how Freenode works (because this channel is hosted on Freenode's password-protected IRC server), and where you can download them from, would probably make life easier on would-be editors who are trying to get verified who have never used an IRC client or even heard of it, but it would have to be placed near the front page for them to see it, otherwise it just becomes another obscure article like the many orphaned pages already on the wiki.
newbie
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Merit: 4
Thank you! Because of such enthusiasts Bit-Wiki still value.


Do you think it makes sense to make detailed instructions on how to enter the IRC channel and leave it in the message thread about the edit request? I couldn't figure out how IRC works on my own.

See ya!  Grin
legendary
Activity: 1526
Merit: 6442
bitcoincleanup.com / bitmixlist.org
Hi!

Need your help to fix the broken link and the outdated company info.

Here is the page: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Software

1. We need to change company name from "Merkeleon" to "Merkeleon Exchange Software"
2. We need to fix the link from http://www.merkeleon.at/ex%D1%81hange/ to https://www.merkeleon.com/cryptocurrency-exchange-software/

Printscreen: https://clip2net.com/s/4d1yEBI

Best regards!


It is done.

https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=Software&oldid=68877
newbie
Activity: 3
Merit: 4
Hi!

Need your help to fix the broken link and the outdated company info.

Here is the page: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Software

1. We need to change company name from "Merkeleon" to "Merkeleon Exchange Software"
2. We need to fix the link from http://www.merkeleon.at/ex%D1%81hange/ to https://www.merkeleon.com/cryptocurrency-exchange-software/

Printscreen: https://clip2net.com/s/4d1yEBI

Best regards!
newbie
Activity: 2
Merit: 4
I just have one minor change to propose, for the Difficulty calculation that's currently shown here: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Difficulty#How_is_difficulty_calculated.3F_What_is_the_difference_between_bdiff_and_pdiff.3F

You can compute the difficulty in a much simpler manner, at least in C and C++.

Code:
#include 

double difficulty(const unsigned bits) {
  const unsigned exponent_diff  = 8 * (0x1D - ((bits >> 24) & 0xFF));
  const double significand = bits & 0xFFFFFF;
  return std::ldexp(0x00FFFF / significand, exponent_diff);
}

In C, just change cmath to math.h and std::ldexp to ldexp.

The ldexp() function lets you scale by a power of two almost for free, by directly adjusting the exponent on the floating point number.  Thus, the difficulty calculation gets reduced to a couple integer arithmetic steps, single floating point divide, and a single scale-by-power-of-2.

This should be quite a bit faster than what's currently on the Wiki, and it's far more direct.  No need for multiple floating point multiplies or an expensive floating point exponentiation.
legendary
Activity: 1526
Merit: 6442
bitcoincleanup.com / bitmixlist.org
New pages OP_CHECKMULTISIG and OP_CHECKMULTISIGVERIFY (a redirect to the other page) were just made! Next up in line is OP_CHECKSIGADD Much easier than scanning a ton of links or updating graphs IMO, but those will also be taken care of in due time Tongue
newbie
Activity: 14
Merit: 1
I can't seem to edit that page, it appears to be write-protected for administrators only. See the padlock symbol on the top left of the article.
I really need to finally fix my computer (swap SSD) and join IRC again. I think I was in the bitcoin channel. dont want to check my logs now.
legendary
Activity: 1526
Merit: 6442
bitcoincleanup.com / bitmixlist.org
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Buying_Bitcoins_(the_newbie_version)
says BitQuick.co supports SEPA. this doesn't seem to be the case anymore.

it apparently did in 2015 https://blog.bitquick.co/index.php/2015/01/09/bitquick-becomes-first-major-bitcoin-trading-marketplace-to-implement-p2sh-multi-signature-escrow-addresses/
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doesn't seem to be a thing anymore || Josien allows you to buy bitcoins and litecoins with iDEAL and SEPA bank transfer.

clevercoin seems to be no more || CleverCoin allows you to buy and sell bitcoins directly on an exchange with iDEAL and SEPA bank transfer.

I can't seem to edit that page, it appears to be write-protected for administrators only. See the padlock symbol on the top left of the article.
newbie
Activity: 14
Merit: 1
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Buying_Bitcoins_(the_newbie_version)
says BitQuick.co supports SEPA. this doesn't seem to be the case anymore.

it apparently did in 2015 https://blog.bitquick.co/index.php/2015/01/09/bitquick-becomes-first-major-bitcoin-trading-marketplace-to-implement-p2sh-multi-signature-escrow-addresses/
-------

doesn't seem to be a thing anymore || Josien allows you to buy bitcoins and litecoins with iDEAL and SEPA bank transfer.

clevercoin seems to be no more || CleverCoin allows you to buy and sell bitcoins directly on an exchange with iDEAL and SEPA bank transfer.
legendary
Activity: 3388
Merit: 6072
Crypto Swap Exchange
The Statistics page is not giving any info: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Statistics
The Clark Moody link on that page is good but the https://bitcoincharts.com/ link has not been working for a long time.

The Meetups page has tons of bad links: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Meetups

Bitcoin Yellow Pages can be changed to dead / inactive: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Bitcoin_Yellow_Pages

Gatecoin was liquidated: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Gatecoin

The VanityMining chart needs an update: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Vanity_mining_hardware_comparison can probably link here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/vanitysearch-yet-another-address-prefix-finder-5112311 and more info here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.50823897 although even my post is way out of date.

More as I go though more notes that I have made.

-Dave
legendary
Activity: 1526
Merit: 6442
bitcoincleanup.com / bitmixlist.org
Side question, I have a few other thoughts about updates. Do you want them all in one post or separate ones? I figure separate one are better, this way we can discuss each one separately and others can reply without it becoming a mess. This is why I brought up the pools in one post and gift cards in another.

I used to batch the updates all in one post but that became cumbersome to do so I gradually moved to write all the updates without all the formalities and procedures since nobody really reads edit history in the first place. (The OP todo list is also woefully out of date which I have to fix)

But about suggestions, better to lump them all in one post unless the suggestions start taking a whole screenful of space. Most people don't follow up on this thread replying anyway so it's not too big of a problem.
legendary
Activity: 3388
Merit: 6072
Crypto Swap Exchange
Do you think that there should be a page or pages about the BTC to gift card options? Bitrefill.com / coinsbee.com / egifter.com etc.

Definitely.

Quote
Part of me thinks it would be good, another part thinks that if you list some but not all it might be looked at as favoritism when it just comes down to lack of time to find them all and list them.

What I might end up doing is making an exhaustive search for all gift card selling sites but a big problem with trying to find them all is that how can I be completely sure that none of them are scamming (some fraudsters pretend to make gift card stores to scam people). So the most logical approach would be to write a page for each of the major and minor stores, and then finally make the compiled list, complete with inbound links back to Bitcoin Wiki pages.

A line that says something like, these are the gift card sellers that have been established for a period of time that have earned the communities trust. There are others out there that may or may not be legitimate.

The other issue that I see is that there are some that although legitimate are viewed very poorly in the community and on this forum by some people. bitpay.com comes to mind.

Side question, I have a few other thoughts about updates. Do you want them all in one post or separate ones? I figure separate one are better, this way we can discuss each one separately and others can reply without it becoming a mess. This is why I brought up the pools in one post and gift cards in another.

-Dave
legendary
Activity: 1526
Merit: 6442
bitcoincleanup.com / bitmixlist.org
Do you think that there should be a page or pages about the BTC to gift card options? Bitrefill.com / coinsbee.com / egifter.com etc.

Definitely.

Quote
Part of me thinks it would be good, another part thinks that if you list some but not all it might be looked at as favoritism when it just comes down to lack of time to find them all and list them.

What I might end up doing is making an exhaustive search for all gift card selling sites but a big problem with trying to find them all is that how can I be completely sure that none of them are scamming (some fraudsters pretend to make gift card stores to scam people). So the most logical approach would be to write a page for each of the major and minor stores, and then finally make the compiled list, complete with inbound links back to Bitcoin Wiki pages.
legendary
Activity: 3388
Merit: 6072
Crypto Swap Exchange
Do you think that there should be a page or pages about the BTC to gift card options? Bitrefill.com / coinsbee.com / egifter.com etc.
Part of me thinks it would be good, another part thinks that if you list some but not all it might be looked at as favoritism when it just comes down to lack of time to find them all and list them.

-Dave
legendary
Activity: 1526
Merit: 6442
bitcoincleanup.com / bitmixlist.org
The entire pools section needs to be redone.
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Comparison_of_mining_pools
Pools that no longer exist, payment methods that are no longer relevant, etc.

Also there are a bunch of links on that page to pools / locations that no longer exist and should probably be removed before someone puts up something bad at one of the linked sites.

-Dave

I moved the defunct mining pools to another category. That should be a good start but I will need to scour the mining board for newer pools and add their info in there too.

Also I should really finish adding the ECC operations, and removing/marking all the multibit stuff that @fourna mentioned.
legendary
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1. https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Cryptocurrency_Legal_Advocacy_Group

The external website still online, however
1. Looking at article title on page 1-10, there's no single article about cryptocurrency.
2. I checked few random article and found out it was copied from another website.
3. First article date is December 24, 2019 even though the organization announced on April 10, 2012.

Most likely the domain is expired or sold to someone else. I suggest to mention the domain now owned by someone else and switch the external link to archive such as https://web.archive.org/web/20120911122253/http://theclag.org/.

2. https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Scalability_FAQ

Might be worthy to mention Taproot slightly improve scalability on specific case (mainly script with multiple condition or signature)
legendary
Activity: 1578
Merit: 1265
Heisenberg Design Services
So I went ahead and removed most of those nonprofits anyway, I kept the ones for which I found Facebook pages to instead (although they look like they haven't been updated in a while either).
Thanks for editing the page and removing the inactive organizations too. Had so much of personal work to take care IRL and I didn't have much time in moderating the local reddit community or joining the wiki discussions happening over here. I think you can probably remove the 'Bitcoin Alliance of India' organization from the non-profits as they were dead quite a few years back.

These removals decimates the page in a way so I want to expand it by including bitcoin groups formed at Meetup.com (like these, but only the big ones). Thoughts?
I think this does sound like a good idea, but we need bitcoiners from the respective countries to confirm for the same on how trustworthy the meetup is actually. Truly speaking, there are far less hard-core bitcoiners in India and majority of them are just random toxic crypto traders looking out for profits and scams and hence the Indian meetup spaces might be dominated by them. There is a crypto group called "IndiaBits" in telegram which is run by trustworthy old-timers from 2012, but let me confirm with Gabru (the admin/lead of IndiaBits) before adding the edit so that we will be able to know if they are running the group as an NGO or just as a discussion place after all.



I/We (2-3 more bitcointalk members) are working on an open source website which will serve as an Indian alternative of bitcoin.org so that we will be able to include the site over here The idea will take some time to realize as I don't have time to work on it like how I did during 2019-20.
legendary
Activity: 3388
Merit: 6072
Crypto Swap Exchange
The entire pools section needs to be redone.
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Comparison_of_mining_pools
Pools that no longer exist, payment methods that are no longer relevant, etc.

Also there are a bunch of links on that page to pools / locations that no longer exist and should probably be removed before someone puts up something bad at one of the linked sites.

-Dave
legendary
Activity: 1526
Merit: 6442
bitcoincleanup.com / bitmixlist.org
@notatether
wouldn't it be easier to deputize people who write in here and let them change whatever they saw, potentially revert their access if too many shenanigans?

I could, but I'm not a bitcoin wiki admin and can't give people editing privileges, so I'm stuck with changing everything myself. This kind of power is basically what nanotube, luke-jr and SomeoneWeird (admins) have on the #bitcoin-wiki IRC channel on Freenode.


also
hey

multibit keeps popping up in the wiki. hasn't it been ded for a while?

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Full_node

maybe a new heading/section for deprecated wallets would be informative too
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Wallet


maybe already the lead section should contain https://bitcoin.org/en/choose-your-wallet rather than Further reading.
like: in order to facilitate your search for a wallet visit the following website https://bitcoin.org/en/choose-your-wallet

That's something else I got to do soon, cleaning up all the Multibit references and maybe including Electrum/MyCelium/ wallets instead. Basically lots of fatigue between doing my dev/writing jobs and maintaining my site the last few weeks really ate up a lot of my time to make changes.
newbie
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Other suggestions?
I was wondering if we should get rid of the past services that aren't in operation, from the "Bitcoin Wiki" pages?

- They just clutter the page and lead to nowhere.
- Perhaps it's best to just compile them on a single page and removed them from other respective pages.
yea I second this

@notatether
wouldn't it be easier to deputize people who write in here and let them change whatever they saw, potentially revert their access if too many shenanigans?


also
hey

multibit keeps popping up in the wiki. hasn't it been ded for a while?

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Full_node

maybe a new heading/section for deprecated wallets would be informative too
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Wallet


maybe already the lead section should contain https://bitcoin.org/en/choose-your-wallet rather than Further reading.
like: in order to facilitate your search for a wallet visit the following website https://bitcoin.org/en/choose-your-wallet

legendary
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bitcoincleanup.com / bitmixlist.org
New page created https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Elliptic_curve_cryptography , a dedicated page that covers ECC operations in general, which I believe will not only be beneficial to people who want to learn more about how cryptocurrency works but also anyone trying to make wallets, block explorers, etc. It is a work in progress, in particular the multiplication ops are missing so I have to add that.

I rarely open this child board, so i just noticed your thread. Here are few pages which need update

1. https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/CoinJoin

These days centralized exchange and custodial wallet will ask source of your fund or freeze your account if they detect incoming Bitcoin comes from CoinJoin (and mixer as well). I think it's important to mention this problem.

2. https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Wasabi_Wallet

Low priority. This page should be added to these categories,
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Category:Clients
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Category:Open_Source

I completely forgot about this, I'll have to make those changes in my free time.
legendary
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I rarely open this child board, so i just noticed your thread. Here are few pages which need update

1. https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/CoinJoin

These days centralized exchange and custodial wallet will ask source of your fund or freeze your account if they detect incoming Bitcoin comes from CoinJoin (and mixer as well). I think it's important to mention this problem.

2. https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Wasabi_Wallet

Low priority. This page should be added to these categories,
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Category:Clients
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Category:Open_Source
legendary
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We're still alive and kicking!

I added a new Electrum screenshot, added the failure screens mentioned above, some captions on the success & failure screens and a short version history (including the 2018 phishing advisory info).

Meanwhile over at https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Armory I spelled out the websites and repository of the new fork of Armory, and clarified the identity of the old and new maintainers.
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@NotATether, you have my permission to use the images from the post linked below for the purpose of updating the Bitcoin Wiki page about Electrum.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.54223763

Thanks for this. The Electrum page at https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Electrum now includes steps to verify Electrum from DireWolfM14's guide.

The page will need some more edits though, in particular about Electrum's usage and history of the 2018 phishing attack on it.

In other news, the ECDSA page https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Elliptic_Curve_Digital_Signature_Algorithm just got a nice section on how to compute and verify signatures Smiley

Cool!  Just an FYI, I've been meaning to add "failed" verification images to the guide.  I have them already generated, but I just haven't made the time to update the post.  I'll get on it one of these days...  Like a rainy one.  In November.    Grin 
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@NotATether, you have my permission to use the images from the post linked below for the purpose of updating the Bitcoin Wiki page about Electrum.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.54223763

Thanks for this. The Electrum page at https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Electrum now includes steps to verify Electrum from DireWolfM14's guide.

The page will need some more edits though, in particular about Electrum's usage and history of the 2018 phishing attack on it.

In other news, the ECDSA page https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Elliptic_Curve_Digital_Signature_Algorithm just got a nice section on how to compute and verify signatures Smiley
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@NotATether, you have my permission to use the images from the post linked below for the purpose of updating the Bitcoin Wiki page about Electrum.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.54223763
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So I went ahead and removed most of those nonprofits anyway, I kept the ones for which I found Facebook pages to instead (although they look like they haven't been updated in a while either).

These removals decimates the page in a way so I want to expand it by including bitcoin groups formed at Meetup.com (like these, but only the big ones). Thoughts?
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Apart from this, if there are any organizations which are available in respective countries and if you are aware of them you can include them in the list.

Thanks for your interest and aggregating a list of defunct charity links. Now if you can go find some newly created charities that aren't on the page I want to add the changes in one edit. (My hands are currently full with another project else I would've done so myself.)
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Thanks for bringing up this initiative NotATether. A few days back I have been going through the List of Bitcoin non-profits around the world in the wiki page  and most of the organizations are currently dead and their website was unreachable. I think it would be better to remove the websites which are dead and aren't currently active and regarding this I would like to hear other's opinion too. I have checked out and here are a list of websites/organizations which aren't functioning currently :

1. Belgium: Belgian Bitcoin Association

The website points to http://www.bitcoinassociation.be/ which is currently dead and the domain is up for sale. Even a linkedin search ended up with the same dead site. Hence, you could remove this or replace them with some other non-profit bitcoin based organization currently functioning in Belgium.

2. Canada: The Bitcoin Embassy

The site is currently dead but there seems to be a facebook page for the same over here : Bitcoin Embassy Hence you could change the link to point to the facebook page (just my thought)

3. Canada: Bitcoin Alliance of Canada

The website which was once functioning at http://www.bitcoinalliance.ca/ is now dead. I could not find a facebook page for the same. Hence you can remove them too.

4. Denmark: The Bitcoin Association of Denmark

The site is dead and I could not find any links through a fast google search.

5. India: Bitcoin Alliance of India

The site and organization both are dead. Here is the reference for the same : Bitcoin Alliance India (BAI) There is a facebook page but it's inactive since 2016, hence you could remove them as well.

6. Philippines: Bitcoin Organization of the Philippines

The site is dead and it's being redirected to a malicious site. You can remove them from the list.

Apart from this, if there are any organizations which are available in respective countries and if you are aware of them you can include them in the list.
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From the BitcoinPaperWallet wiki page:

Quote
It is reported that the website's backend has a backdoor that sends the private keys generated across the Internet to its servers.

This is not correct. Based on this misconception, many people have suggested loading the page, unplugging your network (or disconnecting wifi), and then generating a secure address.

Your money will be stolen.

~snip

Alright thanks for this. I was the one who edited that page with that line anyway based on articles from Coindesk and news.bitcoin.com and they mentioned some things about sha256_test but I could not exactly figure out what it did. Your post clarifies it.

Edit impending with these changes, will update this post with the revision changes.



Edit Merge For Page: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/BitcoinPaperWallet

New source:

Code:
{{compromised}}
[https://bitcoinpaperwallet.com BitcoinPaperWallet.com] was an open-source paper wallet generator based on the [[BitAddress]] generator. Its source code is available on Github for the version as recent as April 2018, when the website was sold to a new owner[https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=169836.msg46727114#msg46727114 The official BitcoinPaperWallet.com thread -- updates and news.] ''“At the end of April 2018, I sold the bitcoinpaperwallet.com website, service, and
associated domain names to a new owner.  This also includes related projects such as
litecoinpaperwallet.com and ethereumpaperwallet.com.”''
. It runs on any modern web browser and relies on JavaScript for all cryptographic functionality.

== Change of ownership ==

At the end of April 2018, Canton Becker, the owner of BitcoinPaperWallet.com at the time, announced via a signed PGP message that he had sold the website to an unknown owner,[https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=169836.msg46727114#msg46727114 The official BitcoinPaperWallet.com thread -- updates and news.] later revealed to be Sarkis Sarkissian.[https://news.bitcoin.com/crypto-users-claim-popular-bitcoin-paper-wallet-generator-is-compromised-millions-allegedly-stolen/ Crypto Users Claim Popular Bitcoin Paper Wallet Generator Is Compromised, Millions Allegedly Stolen - news.bitcoin.com] Since then, there have been multiple accusations of BitcoinPaperWallet.com generating used private keys[https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5247201.msg54398322#msg54398322 Why has my newly created Bitcoin address already been used? - Bitcointalk.org] and private keys created from it being stolen.[https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/85038/what-did-i-do-wrong-that-caused-me-to-lose-bitcoin What did I do wrong that caused me to lose bitcoin? - Bitcoin Stack Exchange][https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/cs68ri/my_paper_wallet_generated_on/ My paper wallet generated on bitcoinpaperwallet.com was hacked! - Reddit] Sarkissian has denied these allegations.

== Backdoor ==

The new version of BitcoinPaperWallet.com includes a backdoor hidden inside the site's JavaScript code in a function called ''sha256_test''. This function attempts to disguise itself as a unit test, however, it has been discovered that this function actually contains 60 pre-generated public/private keypairs encoded in base64 which are returned to the user. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5322560.msg56568297#msg56568297. Therefore, '''it is no longer safe to download the webpage source and run it offline, as the private keys have already been exposed to the internet.'''

The conclusion is that using keys generated from this website will cause any money sent to them to get stolen. The information in the sections below is therefore for historical reference only.

== Secure usage ==

* A safe way to use this generator is to download the [https://github.com/cantonbecker/bitcoinpaperwallet generator from GitHub] so that it can be run as a "local" webpage using a secure offline computer. No Internet connection is required to generate new paper wallets and Bitcoin addresses.
* For the highest level of security, install the BitcoinPaperWallet generator onto an absolutely clean (virus-free, no unnecessary applications installed) "Live CD" or bootable USB thumbdrive.

== Differences from BitAddress ==

While BitAddress is capable of generating "brain wallets", pool-generated vanity wallets, and bulk wallets, BitcoinPaperWallet has been simplified such that its only function is to produce paper wallets. Additionally:

* Paper wallets printed using BitcoinPaperWallet feature a tri-fold design that is sealed shut so as to hide the wallet's private key and QR code from view.
* The reverse side of the design includes instructions for general use as well as a ledger for writing down deposits or other notes.
* The overall design includes a number of features to discourage casual tampering efforts that might otherwise reveal the private key without notice.
* The generator includes an option for printing a paper wallet by pasting in a self-generated private key or vanity address, bypassing the random address generator altogether.

[[Image:BitcoinPaperWallet-sample.jpg]]

== Similarities to BitAddress ==

BitcoinPaperWallet is a GitHub "fork" of BitAddress and uses verifiably identical cryptographic functions and methods. Similarly:

* The generator works entirely from within a web browser.
* No Internet connection is required for the generator to work.
* The full source code can be examined via "view source" in web browser.
* Cryptographic work, random number generation, and random data seeding ("gathering entropy") is accomplished using JavaScript.
* The generator can be run offline by [https://github.com/cantonbecker/bitcoinpaperwallet downloading a ZIP archive] of the HTML from GitHub.

== Designs ==

The BitcoinPaperWallet design is available in 12 different languages. Designs for special occasions are also available, for example these designs for the Christmas holiday or for giving money in red envelopes (e.g. for Chinese New Year.)

[[Image:Bitcoinpaperwallet-xmas-sample.jpg]]

[[Image:Bitcoinpaperwallet-chinese-new-year.jpeg‎‎]]

==References==

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Summary of changes: Fix very severe factual error "... that sends the private keys generated across the internet to its servers".

(Due to lack of interest there will be no peer review)

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From the BitcoinPaperWallet wiki page:

Quote
It is reported that the website's backend has a backdoor that sends the private keys generated across the Internet to its servers.

This is not correct. Based on this misconception, many people have suggested loading the page, unplugging your network (or disconnecting wifi), and then generating a secure address.

Your money will be stolen.

The way the hack works is fairly simple: search for a variable called sha256_test. It is lazily disguised as some sort of a unit test, but in fact it's just an array of 60 pre-generated public address / private key pairs. To keep from being too obvious, they are encoded with base64 rather than base58check:

Code:
    var sha256_test = [{
        pub: "MUJ3a0g1cEt5WlN5cWpncERxRjlMV1BZaW5FMjg2Rjl6WA==",
        priv: "NUtCaHVra1E4TUxkd0ZIbUpCc3hCMXoxUVhLNWMzalQzUkRoQTZZUjFrZ1F5d00xM3ZG"
    }, {
        pub: "MUtxcm5ja3BkRktiYktNTGlYTDU1RGJDMVdjMURuVHhDWg==",
        priv: "NUpTVEMyOW1OOXJjWXE5a3lnR3pLNXpQNTJIZXVjeW5uRW5xR0RBaGpHR2dzamptYjZo"
    }, {
        pub: "MUFxVlZrcGpqb2JZM0pYbnRkSGZkeTdmTXRrbThBVW1kZA==",
        priv: "NUpTU2ZFVWJiRUZFWUpVc0Q5clo4VlUxc3NLcVNvYUtRYkp2Rlk4NTRxd1k1amlSZ2dw"
    // etc

Go to a site like base64decode.org and you can easily see these are addresses and private keys.

These addresses are generated on the server when you load the page. Disconnecting your network won't help -- the server already has all the public/private keys, because it generated them.

The perpetrators just keep a list of all the addresses they've ever handed out, and watch the transaction log. Most of the addresses will never be used, but when one of them gets a big enough balance they clean it out.
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Review for edit merge: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/BitcoinPaperWallet

New page source:

Code:
{{compromised}}
[https://bitcoinpaperwallet.com BitcoinPaperWallet.com] was an open-source paper wallet generator based on the [[BitAddress]] generator. It's source code is available on Github for the version as recent as April 2018, when the website was sold to a new owner[https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=169836.msg46727114#msg46727114 The official BitcoinPaperWallet.com thread -- updates and news.] ''“At the end of April 2018, I sold the bitcoinpaperwallet.com website, service, and
associated domain names to a new owner.  This also includes related projects such as
litecoinpaperwallet.com and ethereumpaperwallet.com.”''
. It runs on any modern web browser and relies on JavaScript for all cryptographic functionality.

== Change of ownership ==

At the end of April 2018, Canton Becker, the owner of BitcoinPaperWallet.com at the time, announced via a signed PGP message that he had sold the website to an unknown owner.[https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=169836.msg46727114#msg46727114 The official BitcoinPaperWallet.com thread -- updates and news.] Since then, there have been multiple accusations of BitcoinPaperWallet.com generating used private keys[https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5247201.msg54398322#msg54398322 Why has my newly created Bitcoin address already been used? - Bitcointalk.org] and private keys created from it being stolen[https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/85038/what-did-i-do-wrong-that-caused-me-to-lose-bitcoin What did I do wrong that caused me to lose bitcoin? - Bitcoin Stack Exchange][https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/cs68ri/my_paper_wallet_generated_on/ My paper wallet generated on bitcoinpaperwallet.com was hacked! - Reddit].

== Secure usage ==

* A safe way to use this generator is to download the [https://github.com/cantonbecker/bitcoinpaperwallet generator from GitHub] so that it can be run as a "local" webpage using a secure offline computer. No Internet connection is required to generate new paper wallets and Bitcoin addresses.
* For the highest level of security, install the BitcoinPaperWallet generator onto an absolutely clean (virus-free, no unnecessary applications installed) "Live CD" or bootable USB thumbdrive.

== Differences from BitAddress ==

While BitAddress is capable of generating "brain wallets", pool-generated vanity wallets, and bulk wallets, BitcoinPaperWallet has been simplified such that its only function is to produce paper wallets. Additionally:

* Paper wallets printed using BitcoinPaperWallet feature a tri-fold design that is sealed shut so as to hide the wallet's private key and QR code from view.
* The reverse side of the design includes instructions for general use as well as a ledger for writing down deposits or other notes.
* The overall design includes a number of features to discourage casual tampering efforts that might otherwise reveal the private key without notice.
* The generator includes an option for printing a paper wallet by pasting in a self-generated private key or vanity address, bypassing the random address generator altogether.

[[Image:BitcoinPaperWallet-sample.jpg]]

== Similarities to BitAddress ==

BitcoinPaperWallet is a GitHub "fork" of BitAddress and uses verifiably identical cryptographic functions and methods. Similarly:

* The generator works entirely from within a web browser.
* Addresses are never transmitted over the Internet, and no Internet connection is required for the generator to work.
* The full source code can be examined via "view source" in web browser.
* Cryptographic work, random number generation, and random data seeding ("gathering entropy") is accomplished using JavaScript.
* The generator can be run offline by [https://github.com/cantonbecker/bitcoinpaperwallet downloading a ZIP archive] of the HTML from GitHub.

== Designs ==

The BitcoinPaperWallet design is available in 12 different languages. Designs for special occasions are also available, for example these designs for the Christmas holiday or for giving money in red envelopes (e.g. for Chinese New Year.)

[[Image:Bitcoinpaperwallet-xmas-sample.jpg]]

[[Image:Bitcoinpaperwallet-chinese-new-year.jpeg‎‎]]

==References==


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Summary of changes: Reflect ongoing developments of bitcoinpaperwallet.com credibility. If anyone has the Ubuntu LiveCD with the old bitcoinpaperwallet.com on it, notify me so I can add it back to this page.



There is also a prominent red notice at the top of the page that warns people not to go to the site.



Should I also remove the link at the top of the article that leads you to bitcoinpaperwallet's website? It sounds like a good idea on paper (pun not intended) but I'm not sure if it is appropriate to do on a wiki page.


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At the end of April 2018, Canton Becker, the owner of BitcoinPaperWallet.com at the time, announced via a signed PGP message that he had sold the website to an unknown owner,[https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=169836.msg46727114#msg46727114 The official BitcoinPaperWallet.com thread -- updates and news.] later revealed to be Sarkis Sarkissian.[https://news.bitcoin.com/crypto-users-claim-popular-bitcoin-paper-wallet-generator-is-compromised-millions-allegedly-stolen/ Crypto Users Claim Popular Bitcoin Paper Wallet Generator Is Compromised, Millions Allegedly Stolen - news.bitcoin.com] Since then, there have been multiple accusations of BitcoinPaperWallet.com generating used private keys[https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5247201.msg54398322#msg54398322 Why has my newly created Bitcoin address already been used? - Bitcointalk.org] and private keys created from it being stolen.[https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/85038/what-did-i-do-wrong-that-caused-me-to-lose-bitcoin What did I do wrong that caused me to lose bitcoin? - Bitcoin Stack Exchange][https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/cs68ri/my_paper_wallet_generated_on/ My paper wallet generated on bitcoinpaperwallet.com was hacked! - Reddit] Sarkissian has denied these allegations.

It is reported that the website's backend has a backdoor which sends the private keys generated across the Internet to its servers.[https://www.coindesk.com/bitcoinpaperwallet-back-door-missing-funds-research BitcoinPaperWallet ‘Back Door’ Responsible for Millions in Missing Funds, Research Suggests]

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Changes have been pushed (sadly nobody replied about this and this can't wait forever). If anyone has any objections about the link I'll happily remove it.
legendary
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- You guys (bitcointalk community members) bring together problematic pages, or pages that are just plain out-of-date on this thread
  • Buying Bitcoins (the newbie version)
    • IIRC, US customers could now buy BTCitcoin directly with PayPal [CMIIW].
    • For the credit card part, VirWox is already closed and Cubits has "terminated" its services [it's more like a blog now].
    • I didn't check the other parts but there might be a need for more changes.
  • Debit cards
  • Transaction accelerator
    • AntPool should be added to the "Mining Pool Accelerators" section.
    • IMO, we should get rid of the last section that is called "Third Party Accelerators [it's actually just broadcasting services]" and just replace it with a link to the "Transaction broadcasting" page [like what they've done on their own page].

Other suggestions?
I was wondering if we should get rid of the past services that aren't in operation, from the "Bitcoin Wiki" pages?

- They just clutter the page and lead to nowhere.
- Perhaps it's best to just compile them on a single page and removed them from other respective pages.
legendary
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It's a huge undertaking, as just about everything needs to be updated in some form or another. The project has gone a long time without any major additions or edits.

I will take a look and see if anything immediately comes to mind... I remember somebody had spammed a few pages with advertisements for altcoins projects, will look to see if those got cleaned up first.
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So yesterday I finally got those edit permissions I was asking for. So I am going to start an initiative to modernize the topics there by making a discussion thread here (as admins and edit-power givers rarely read this board anymore) Here is how it'll work:

The process:

- You guys (bitcointalk community members) bring together problematic pages, or pages that are just plain out-of-date on this thread
- I will make a priority queue out of them depending on how serious the problems are
- You suggest to me the appropriate modifications to make to the page
- I post a verbatim draft of the new page in code tags on this thread
- We peer-review the draft to iron out any wrong info (I'm known to edit my posts to fix spelling errors so for a serious page like Bitcoin Wik pages I do not want to do that). Scratched out due to lack of interest
- Finally, I push the changes to Bitcoin Wiki.

The queue:

Items closer to the top have a bigger priority.

- Add BIP38 info to private key page
- We need P2WSH, P2WPKH sections of P2SH and P2WPKH as soon as possible, and redirect pages with those titles to new sections in Script.
- Create Multisig and P2SH-P2WSH pages and redirect them to Script >P2SH-P2WPKH.
- Transactions page has simplified sections on P2PKH and P2SH. Make sections there for other address types and include links to Script at the end of each section.
- on the Bech32 page, Process to derive Bech32 addresses
- In the Tor page, mention that Tor V3 can be used by Core in 0.21.0



Completed items:

- BitcoinPaperWallet a likely scam - page needs updated Done!

Staff is doing a great job at mirroring new BIPs let's leave them alone.

Other suggestions? I want to hear your thoughts let's make this a long-term thing guys. This is pretty much the only hope we have for updating these pages because of how fewer people are asking for edit permissions now.
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