Topic: The clubroom - another radical idea from Jet Cash (Read 482 times)

Yeah there is always chances like that. Its true when a multiple number of people take decission for a common issue always we got different opinions there.

IMO currently forum is going nice. Forum isn't over moderated really.

Not new,it supposed to increase


Time to shuffle these moderators.


a) So, you are trying to find an equilibrium here
1.spamming together with a lack of posting.
2. I'd like to see a nice clean general discussion board that is open to everybody

b) Looking for a Ideal Forum
1. A nice clean general discussion board that is open to everybody from newbie to Legendary , and that is kept clean, courteous, and informative.


I think,too many cooks to spoil the broth.

Even in the Sammy sections where there are lots of bitching,etc,good quality discussions still go on and a lot of learning is acquired in them
In the proposed section,what would be the penalty for low quality talk or discussions.
Despite the good idea behind the thought,it definitely cannot work and would not be implemented.
SD and IT sections are somewhat not functioning at the moment,and the best idea would be to get them working again.

Taking part in informed and interesting discussions is enough rewards for me. It stops being rewarding when there is bad posting behaviour, bitching, and self aggrandisation. I'd also like to contribute a bit towards global income equality, and I don't mean just giving away money.

The problem with these exclusive forums is that there is not enough critical mass for discussion. Quality discussion takes times and energy people could be devoting toward other goals therefore essentially relies on people's boredom to produce content. If you wanted a smaller more select group like this to work I would say you should offer some kind of monetary version of merits like we here here. I loathe to compare it to the "R" word because it is such a dumpster fire, but a system like that could give incentive for people to provide more active and more quality content.

Create a chatroom and be those Legendaries to moderate the chats. Who cares LOL

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Indeed another radical idea 

The donators board is so special no one ever uses it!

Fact: what keeps a board active is the fact signatures display are been allowed and merit circulation is at its peak.

The Ivory Tower and serious discussion board aren't that active like other board so I doubt this clubroom will become a success although I love the idea and I'll say lets give it a try. Any suggestion that'll bring in positive development are always welcome but what are the topic going to be discussed there that can't be discussed currently on serious discussion and Ivory tower board? Or it's going to be like a shrine to go seek wisdom from the 12-13 legendary members 😂

Yep I think this board will be a great idea. Let's give them their board. Something appropriate to their combined achievements here...hmmm... The broom cupboard... No sigs though or avatars or any advertising. I wonder how active that place will be.

If you agree to a zero sigs board then of course you should be given your own echo chamber.

Jet cash will not need to

1. get upset if his reporting is not 100% accurate
2. get upset if his posts get moved to a more suitable area
3. get challenged to review facts that demonstrate wrongdoing and have to admit he dare not. Yikes...

Pharmacist won't bother firing up Huge Black Woman - doh no sigs allowed... actually the pharmacist will not be posting there much at all. "HELL NO"

I would vote for it if you promise to take lauda tman owlcatz or any other "under-cover agents" with you - I want you guys safe and sound in there..

Imagine if you started your own forum....Radical.

12 or 13 "Legends" that will all agree on everything .  Lauda and his 12 disciples sounds like perfect candidates.

Should have made it a poll. Where can I vote?

The idea is great, but it's almost impossible to implement  IMO.

over time it becomes really easy to filter posts just by a quick look, i have not been here long, but i have already trained my brain to read what it thinks i want to read and ignore the rest, i think everybody has already developed a similar thing, even without the use of the ignore function, i think most members know what to read and what to ignore.

also depending on the WHERE you read, as for now , you should not expect to see much of good posts on meta or reputation, but the serious discussion for example is doing pretty well ,( i think you and I had a good discussion there a few days ago).

You can't deny it gets annoying though.

The start of the topic of the drama sure is somewhat funny sometimes and then we just incur emptiness and lack of thought thereonin when users run out of ideas and realise they're not going to win. The mods don't remove this (although they probably should because it would give that user more 'beef' and make another funny topic spark from it).

We need more stupid users that don't understand when the game is up so they keep putting efforts into their dramatic posts long after anyone particularly cares anymore...


It doesn't work with newbies and I still have that one post I have to read before hitting ignore.
I have started to use my ignore button a bit more, sometimes I temporarily unignore someone but it never lasts long...

I need an addon that allows me to just see LoyceV, Theymos, jackg (he's alright) and Jet Cash's topics on meta and no one elses .

But that sound boring, c'mon the drama is the best part on this forum. Is what make us really enjoy it  

I think this is another great idea JC, but at the end is work for theymos, so, I don't think it would be that easy to make it true. At end always the good ideas are welcome, so, let's see what the boss thinks about it.

I have an even more radical idea than JC... are you sitting down?

Don't read the stuff than you don't want to read!

Seriously though, there are boards to ask questions and get answers and it works really well. When it doesn't, you know it's time to start using "Ignore" and "Report to moderator".

I like this idea, it definetely needs to be tweaked here and there, but I would like this idea be a real thing.

Just like how VIPs and Donators have access to a special board, we could actually keep a board for discussions that's helpful, that's more or less diverted to guiding things for anyone who's looking for new information or to debate about something real.

My view over this idea is entirely different, and I quite don't really know how to explain it. I just want this forum to be a place to actually ask questions around ffs, and less of drama. I have read more about DT and merit in the past year, than what I have of bitcoin. WHAT THE FUCK EVEN!

Yeah, good luck with that.  Pose a problem to 12 Legendary members, and you'll get 13 different opinions.

We've already got Ivory Tower and Serious Discussion, and I don't think having exclusive areas or 'elite' moderators is going to help much of anything.  I hate to be that pessimistic, but that's how I think it is.  All of this drama is basically about the most recent changes to the trust system, and who's on DT1.  I'm not sure how that's going to be resolved.  TECSHARE and OgNasty aren't going to be happy unless they're back on DT1/DT2, and the troll faction (cryptohunter and the like) never did anything that would even warrant consideration of them being on even DT2. 

As I said in another thread, these days I'd much rather try to be a good merit source and find merit-worthy posts by lower-ranked members than to engage in the trust system battle.  Seems to me like that's a better way to spend my time, but even then it's very frustrating to read through threads in sections like Economics, where most of the good posts are written by Hero/Lengendary members.  Finding a solution to meriting the under-merited members (if they even exist; I have my doubts at this point) would be a priority over starting up an exclusive section. 

Creating a club could lead to more conspiracy theories and more fighting, too.  I don't think the forum needs less inclusivity (I know that sounds very SJW, sorry) right now.

I suggest you set up a self moderated thread in the appropriate section and include a clear set of instructions for posting in the OP. You can curate it yourself.

I admit that the moving of my thread triggered my line of thought. I do not accept that the move was correct or reasonable. The whole point of the thread was to garner newbies opinions ( and to award a few merits on the side ). moving the thread to a board that is unlikely to be visited by newbies is an elitist action ( to hijack an opinion by one of my detractors ), and made the whole thread useless.

Anyway I started this discussion in the hope that a few of the ideas and suggestions that it has provoked can be used to improve some of the other boards. People have been suggesting that something has to be done for months now, so my opinions are hardly new or unique.

I thought about something like this from actmyname's thread https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/a-question-to-generic-board-regulars-5104827

Something like a wave of self-moderated threads in sections where people comment recycled ideas over and over.

You could do the same thing, just make a self-moderated thread in the section you want, and if your post gets enough interest put it on you to monitor and moderate it. It's that part that's hard for the person moderating, to constantly weed out pointless posts.

theymos seems to prefer fewer rules and more discretion for moderators... which may or may not align with what you're suggesting. Perhaps the effort that would be needed to maintain order on the new board would be better spent cleaning up the existing boards if there is a general consensus on what "cleaning up" entails. On the other hand, if there is no such consensus then the new board would probably suffer the same fate.

The forum is not over moderated, you are just not happy because they moved your thread in a more appropriate section

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.49515829