The cost of Copper Membership will raise considerably

lobcmt2

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Update on the fees of Copper Membership, paid in Grin coin, for today.
Honestly, I have not observed to rate in Grin coin on daily basis, so I guess that the rate probably changed days ago, not today.

Quote from: theymos on January 20, 2019, 11:31:42 AM

The prices and ratios in the forum's automatic payment handling are not permanent, but I only update them manually from time to time.

For now, new comers have to paid nearly 4.33 Grin coin to own a Copper Member.

lobcmt2

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From now on, Copper Membership's buyers can contribute more by spending in Grin.
Of course, they only should do this if they are familiar with crypto transactions and can follow the guide of Grin transaction without serious mistakes.
If they can not, they should stick with BTC payment gate.

Stedsm

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Quote from: Leema on January 22, 2019, 05:45:26 AM

I love this forum so much. Buying the copper membership was just to show how I want to be part of this great community. I bought my membership before it increases. All newbies could do the same to show how effective they want to be , before getting a merit.

Glad you saved some bucks before it gets increased in its value; it shows that when such chances are given, those who are dedicated to "contribution" and not just spamming and making bucks should not hesitate in taking advantage of the same. I'd suggest admins one thing that I haven't seen mostly anywhere, and i.e.; if it's possible for them to make a USD pegged button for such membership, it'd be beneficial for both forum and people's welfare (like they decide a specific value in USD and choose an exchange based on which price will change in BTC considering its volatility).

lobcmt2

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Another good news is that theymos states that he will update the rate of Grin for a Copper membership manually over time.

Quote from: theymos on January 20, 2019, 11:31:42 AM

The prices and ratios in the forum's automatic payment handling are not permanent, but I only update them manually from time to time.

The current rate:

Code:

a forum credit of 0.00675676 BTC via grin, send 2.252253333 grin

Visit there to get full details:
DO NOT POST SESC LINKS

Velkro

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Quote from: palpitate on January 16, 2019, 04:04:34 PM

Is it really worth paying for cooper membership?

It depends. Its a shorcut that allows you to progress faster but you can achieve same thing by just posting/beign here/enjoying ur time here.
One way require time, other money. Its all depends on person considering this decision.

Leema

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I love this forum so much. Buying the copper membership was just to show how I want to be part of this great community. I bought my membership before it increases. All newbies could do the same to show how effective they want to be , before getting a merit.

Stedsm

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Quote from: Little Mouse on January 18, 2019, 11:36:14 PM

That is a good decision by our forum admin theymos. Some people just used to buy it for signature campaign. They get the same benefit like as a member. Previously they had to pay only $10 for getting a member rank. It was too low. Now that they will be less interest to buy copper member.

Wait, signature campaigns?
I've never seen any of those copper members (those possessing newbie ranks and having a copper membership bought) being accepted in any signature campaign and it is merit that could get them higher ranks. Yes, it's true that they're given real benefits and privileges just the way users having "Member" rank enjoy, but purchasing a copper membership doesn't really guarantee you'll be accepted in a campaign. Please don't misguide others about this, as well as what you said about that $10 payment for a Member rank, were actually alts they wanted to purchase to get into signature campaign.

lobcmt2

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They separated into two types of users:
- Real developers who need to be able to publish posts/ threads with images.
- Scammers or pseudo-developers who simply want to scam naive investors and steal their money.

Quote from: DdmrDdmr on January 19, 2019, 11:19:48 AM

The majority of people I figure acquire a Copper Membership mostly to post images (i.e. Ann/Bounty threads OPs) or bear a signature when they are Newbies (although I believe many campaigns do not enrol Copper Member Newbies). Your personal motives are a much rarer choice.

DdmrDdmr

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Quote from: HardyGoodsLtd on January 19, 2019, 11:01:48 AM

<...> I became copper member a while ago, not for benefits of account, but just to do my bit in supporting the forum, and it looks cool. I do think that new users should not be able to do this instantly, if you have a bad I.P. its for a reason.

On an anecdotal and irrelevant note, it does makes my statistical processes a bit more difficult (the profile only shows Copper Member, but not the underlying rank, and I derive my forum stats using the rank from the profile as core).

The majority of people I figure acquire a Copper Membership mostly to post images (i.e. Ann/Bounty threads OPs) or bear a signature when they are Newbies (although I believe many campaigns do not enrol Copper Member Newbies). Your personal motives are a much rarer choice.

I think that evil I.Ps. are not bypassed one you acquire a Copper Membership, but if you have paid because of an evil IP, then the amount paid may contribute to reducing the Copper Membership price. There is an interesting thread by @xtraelv on the matter (see Units of Evil, copper membership & list of copper members).

HardyGoodsLtd

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Quote from: DdmrDdmr on January 17, 2019, 01:42:07 PM

Quote from: Upgate on January 17, 2019, 12:51:46 PM

Is nice for you to draw our attention to that fact and I don't think it's only for the newbie some other members of the forum are also interested in the copper membership <...>

I've taken a quick look into this, and this is what I can come up with. Comparing @Piggy’s last two full user database (beginning of December vs beginning of November 2018) we’ve got:

December reading: 4411 Copper Members
November reading: 3994 Copper Members

Those therefore 417 Copper Member added is a month rank really as:

2 Full Members
7 Members
27 Jr. Members (may have been newbies upon purchase of Copper Membership)
338 Newbies
43 Brand New (probably bought it and managed to get nuked – at least more likely that bought it and haven’t posted yet).

Vast majority of new Copper Members are Newbies really.

I became copper member a while ago, not for benefits of account, but just to do my bit in supporting the forum, and it looks cool. I do think that new users should not be able to do this instantly, if you have a bad I.P. its for a reason.

lobcmt2

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Official new fees of Copper membership is [ DO NOT POST SESC LINKS ]there[/url]
Both Bitcoin and grin coin accepted!

Little Mouse

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That is a good decision by our forum admin theymos. Some people just used to buy it for signature campaign. They get the same benefit like as a member. Previously they had to pay only $10 for getting a member rank. It was too low. Now that they will be less interest to buy copper member.

JeromeTash

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Heisenberg

Quote from: TryNinja on January 15, 2019, 10:42:59 PM

The evil fees (small fee which enables posting for those registered in blacklisted/banned IPs) will also increase in price.

Why would they increase the fees for unblocking banned IPs? it's not like anyone as a new registrant committed any foul. This will be so hard on the new genuine registrants who probably don't now what happened.

My account got hacked sometime in July last year so with no hope of recovering it, i tried opening up a new account only to receive a message that i could not post because i have to pay some fee to unblock the evil ip thingy... Seriously who does that to innocent or genuine new registrants?
I gave up, however low the fee was, i didn't even bother paying it. Had my account not been recovered, i wouldn't be here now. imagine how many others have avoid their new accounts because of that.

The culprits also know what they doing and will get new IP addresses and continue abusing the forum once the other ones are blacklisted. Something else has to be done to avoid losing out on new users with no bad intention but not just increasing the fee.

DdmrDdmr

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Quote from: vagrom on January 18, 2019, 03:31:24 AM

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No, it's because of this:

Quote from: theymos on January 15, 2019, 11:43:50 AM

Quote from: gentlemand on January 15, 2019, 09:23:27 AM

Has anything been written anywhere about the reasons for this? I can't imagine it's a money making measure. I also can't imagine it's going to deter the people who aren't already deterred by it.

It's just that I last changed the price when the BTC/USD price was $12k, so it's drifted from the intended value. Evil fees will also be updated.

Quote from: TheBeardedBaby on January 15, 2019, 05:25:35 AM

The price will be fixed in bitcoins so imagine what will happen when we enter a bull market again.

The increment in price should place derived income as it was before BTC started to dip (perhaps a bit higher since there is a higher demand since September rank changes), and the FIAT equivalent amount does not add up to that much really. It may refrain some from aquiring the Copper Membership, but even so the price is not that high (depending on the country you are from).

vagrom

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The reason for the price increase is because the demand is increasing?

lobcmt2

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It is likely total new Copper Members per month has been on the rise.
Nevertheless, with the coming increased fees, I expect to see dramatical drops of new Copper Members next months.

Quote from: DdmrDdmr on January 17, 2019, 01:42:07 PM

I've taken a quick look into this, and this is what I can come up with. Comparing @Piggy’s last two full user database (beginning of December vs beginning of November 2018) we’ve got:

December reading: 4411 Copper Members
November reading: 3994 Copper Members

It's not strange.
We all known that most of Copper Members, new ones I meant, come from Spambies, or new developers' accounts.

Quote from: CryptopreneurBrainboss on January 17, 2019, 02:21:07 PM

You can make use of a quote without adding a link check my previous message for the code.

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Quote from: lobcmt2 on January 16, 2019, 07:59:19 AM

Moreover, if you want to use quote, so quote what?
In my understanding, quotes used when you want to mention about contents inside previous posts/ threads.

Nope, not just that. Quote means to repeat or copy out words from a text or speech written or spoken by another person. You were copying the news so a quote who had been appropriate. You can make use of a quote without adding a link check my previous message for the code.

Example; lets say coinbase gave an update of shutting down their Exchange for two weeks and I want to pass the information to forum users, a quote format who be more appropriate instead of a code format.

DdmrDdmr

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Quote from: Upgate on January 17, 2019, 12:51:46 PM

Is nice for you to draw our attention to that fact and I don't think it's only for the newbie some other members of the forum are also interested in the copper membership <...>

I've taken a quick look into this, and this is what I can come up with. Comparing @Piggy’s last two full user database (beginning of December vs beginning of November 2018) we’ve got:

December reading: 4411 Copper Members
November reading: 3994 Copper Members

Those therefore 417 Copper Member added is a month rank really as:

2 Full Members
7 Members
27 Jr. Members (may have been newbies upon purchase of Copper Membership)
338 Newbies
43 Brand New (probably bought it and managed to get nuked – at least more likely that bought it and haven’t posted yet).

Vast majority of new Copper Members are Newbies really.

Upgate

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Is nice for you to draw our attention to that fact and I don't think it's only for the newbie some other members of the forum are also interested in the copper membership
And even though the prices are increased users would still get the copper membership

NavI_027

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Quote from: lobcmt2 on January 15, 2019, 10:37:57 PM

There is the message from the forum, which you also can see it yourself in the top-left corner of the forum interface.
The displayed message will fluctuated between some set-up messages, so sometimes you will see the news, sometimes will not.

Really? But as far as I am concern, the news always appear to my screen every time I visit here. Anyway, still props for your effort to post this because I can see that you make someone get aware of this

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Quote from: palpitate on January 16, 2019, 04:04:34 PM

Is it really worth paying for cooper membership?

It doesn't have a significant value for me (maybe because I'm already a Full Member). It was just a decoration under your name. Yout post quality and your behavior as a member still matter the most.

Quote from: ryap12 on January 17, 2019, 02:43:05 AM

I suggest to have it raise more.

I agree. 0.00624 btc was so easy to afford by the scammers. They still be willing to pay for this knowing the possibilities of earning more from their scams so I guess the fee should be bigger or at least make another rule which will stop those scammers. Nevertheless, this is good improvement already.

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