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Topic: The country with the highest demand for gold just outlawed gold. Shit got real. - page 2. (Read 2952 times)

legendary
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Subject title is bullshit. India did not outlaw gold. As always was the case, gold can be purchased with after-tax money.

The new thing is that the gov is now demanding that all gold be shown to be purchased with after-tax money. And, apparently, resorting to draconian measures to determine if each person's gold above some threshold has been purchased accordingly.

But it has not made gold illegal.
So when has the Communist government ever stopped at its original limited action?

This is only the first step.

Prognostication about what may or may not come to pass is one thing. But posting bullshit as fact is merely posting bullshit as fact.
sr. member
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Ah yes I was thinking it was 500 ounces.
500 grams is much less, but I still doubt the average person owns $20,000 worth of gold.
This will still only have an effect on the very wealthy. Some might buy some Bitcoin, but I assume most are going to hide money in offshore accounts and companies outside their country.
legendary
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If they can ban gold, don't you think they will also ban btc? Why would you want to invest in something that you know is going to be banned?

You cant ban bitcoin. Russia already tried and failed. It doesnt work like that.

They can search your house all day but they wont find your bitcoins.

lol  Grin

maybe if they search your house really really hard they might find your BTC
sr. member
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Subject title is bullshit. India did not outlaw gold. As always was the case, gold can be purchased with after-tax money.

The new thing is that the gov is now demanding that all gold be shown to be purchased with after-tax money. And, apparently, resorting to draconian measures to determine if each person's gold above some threshold has been purchased accordingly.

But it has not made gold illegal.

So when has the Communist government ever stopped at its original limited action?

This is only the first step.

The leader of India was put there by Goldman Sachs. He is there to move India to electronic currency. Watch and observe how it is done by turning the poor against all forms of cash.
sr. member
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India has not banned gold, there are rumours at this point and nothing more.


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Shit just got real. Citizens homes will be searched and 85% of wealth will be confiscated.

What they are going door to door looking for gold in a population of 1.3 billion people after giving advance notice they are coming, good luck with that  Grin Grin Grin Grin

Until they bribe your neighbors to turn you in.

Perhaps you haven't been to the 3rd world and noticed that you don't have much privacy. I live in the Philippines which less densely populated than India, and I promise you I can't even urinate behind a tree without someone seeing me.

The government's ban has been very popular in India. The majority support the "fight against black money".

You have more than 500 grams of gold, then your neighbor is jealous because you have more than your fair share.

Haven't you realized that we live in socialism now.

Large quantities of gold are going to be an albatross around your neck.

People in the rest of the world aren't as trustful of their governments and are not inclined to abide by such laws.

You don't seem to be in touch with the reality that the world is now "99% versus the 1%", which means everything that is yours is your neighbors.

You're a white American boy, you are trained to respect authority

You little chickenshit (and not very smart either). I have been living in the 3rd world since I was 26 years old in 1991. I already challenged you to bring your brave Eastern European asshole to me face, so we can see who is better equipped to kick some ass.

I am not pure white. I have enough Cherokee indian blood to make me fucking crazy enough to rip your head off if you piss me off. I have been through enough shit here in the 3rd world to entirely remove the American civility from my attitude when provoked. Try me.



And it seem both of you imbeciles forgot that the main point of this thread is not whether you can bury your gold in the ground (I never denied that), but whether you can spend your gold for anything in a collapse scenario. Who the fuck is going to accept your gold in India when the government makes it illegal and is bribing your neighbor to rat on anyone who is "getting more than their fair share by trading in gold".

Imbeciles just please back up your pickup trucks and stack more gold. As much as possible, because I am going to be laughing at you when you realize you fucked up big time.


(latinos and blacks in US are better equipped naturally to withstand this bullshit)

Perhaps Eastern Europeans with their failed socialist economies admire the Latinos in California:

Every Household in California Owes $93,000 to Pay for State Pensions



Stanford University has been tracking the cost of pensions in California. So while there is a movement starting to separate from the United States especially since they wanted Hillary, California will soon fall on its face and then will be begging Washington for a handout. The real amount owed by every household in California to cover state pensions jumped to $93,000 in 2015 up from $77,700 per household in 2014.

California may be the most socialistic state in the union, so expect them to also be among the first to collapse despite being the fifth largest economy in the world if looked at as their own nation. Go ahead – leave; but take your pensions with you please! There are two categories of fools: (1) are those who believe what isn’t true; and (2) those who refuse to believe what is true. Socialists seem to come in both varieties.

Millions of Socialists, have murdered and killed those who disagree with them. The opponents of Marxism have been burnt, tortured, fined, and imprisoned; yet we have not advanced one inch towards this mythical land of perfect harmony and utopia. The net result has only been war and conflict and to prove that one half the world is composed of fools and hypocrites who just want to be taken care-of, yet willing to surrender their independence while pretending to be independent.
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The only wealth that will be confiscated by the gov is the one that has been stolen from the country that is black-money.

That is what the Communists always say.
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How come they dont murder the shit out of this government? I dont own any money in banks just because of the bankrupcy nightmare and yet in India, the gov dogs can search your house and steal your wealth. What a shit country. I would either kill the dogs or kill myself in that situation. Are those people cows? Show some reaction dudes, blow up some stores, hurt some people.

You should learn about the situation before talking. The only wealth that will be confiscated by the gov is the one that has been stolen from the country that is black-money. Money of honest people will not be touched. This is being done to help those honest people of India and therefore there is no reaction. I get that reading what @lerredit has written will bring up such thoughts but whatever he has written is totally wrong and therefore you should read about what is happening.

Show some reaction dudes, blow up some stores, hurt some people.

And even if there were some problem this is totally not the way to show some reaction. Killing some innocent people just to show your disapproval? Remember someday it might be your loved one that may be harmed if everyone has this sort of thinking. Instead doing something to those responsible will be more valid.
legendary
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How come they dont murder the shit out of this government? I dont own any money in banks just because of the bankrupcy nightmare and yet in India, the gov dogs can search your house and steal your wealth. What a shit country. I would either kill the dogs or kill myself in that situation. Are those people cows? Show some reaction dudes, blow up some stores, hurt some people.

India kind of has a history of just rolling over for invaders.  I don't know a lot about India, but they've either mastered the art of peace or cowardice.

I never thought where the coward word came from. (or the opposite) It is the coow! wohooo, thanks for enlightening me.
legendary
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How come they dont murder the shit out of this government? I dont own any money in banks just because of the bankrupcy nightmare and yet in India, the gov dogs can search your house and steal your wealth. What a shit country. I would either kill the dogs or kill myself in that situation. Are those people cows? Show some reaction dudes, blow up some stores, hurt some people.

India kind of has a history of just rolling over for invaders.  I don't know a lot about India, but they've either mastered the art of peace or cowardice.
legendary
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How come they dont murder the shit out of this government? I dont own any money in banks just because of the bankrupcy nightmare and yet in India, the gov dogs can search your house and steal your wealth. What a shit country. I would either kill the dogs or kill myself in that situation. Are those people cows? Show some reaction dudes, blow up some stores, hurt some people.
sr. member
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The country with the highest demand for gold (India), just outlawed gold. Shit just got real. Citizens homes will be searched and 85% of wealth will be confiscated.

Totally wrong. "just outlawed gold" no they did not, its just that gold purchased with black-money or with amounts that have not been disclosed by a particular citizen will be taxed and 85% of that will be taken away.
This in no way will affect the honest people and was a step that needed to be taken long time ago. So yes the people who want to hide their "non-disclosed money" will invest in bitcoins.
legendary
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I think you have to keep in mind its saying that 500grams is ok for a married woman. 500g is worth like, what, ~20k$? I doubt too many indian people have that much to put in gold since they're pretty poor usually...
Actually there are lots of politician and businessman who try to hide their illegal money in golds so most of them have more than 500 gram gold for sure and in a single marriage indian used to spend more than kilos to make jwellery items for bride.

However this limitation may make more indians to move towards bitcoin as best and safe alternative.
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If they can ban gold, don't you think they will also ban btc? Why would you want to invest in something that you know is going to be banned?

They can ban gold, but they will not be able to enforce this ban. Doesn't mean they won't try.

They can ban and enforce ban on Bitcoin in its current form, because in its current form it has a critically centralized mining design. If Bitcoin doesn't change its design, it is not dangerous to them. This means they probably won't ban it, also means it won't get much adoption due to its limitations.

A cryptocurrency that they can't enforce a ban on should operate in a more stealthy mode, not mined in gigantic datacenters with a target on their back like this:
https://cointelegraph.com/news/worlds-third-most-powerful-data-center-to-be-used-for-bitcoin-mining

It must be a) either an asic resistant proof of work preventing industrial concentration of mining b) or some kind of proof of stake. Whatever design, it should prevent formation of gigantic datacenters and factories producing asic gear. If Bitcoin were to survive the race, it should adopt something like what Theymos proposed here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/idea-for-an-altcoin-3-way-hybrid-pow-1654457
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The country with the highest demand for gold (India), just outlawed gold. Shit just got real. Citizens homes will be searched and 85% of wealth will be confiscated.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/No-tax-on-jewellery/gold-purchased-out-of-disclosed-income-Finance-Ministry/articleshow/55724734.cms

Looks like India currently requires Digital Gold for many in order to avoid permanent seizure in the amount of 85% of their assets as "TAX"... Bitcoin demand is going to rocket. Expecting record demand. Killer app activated.

Actually where indians spend those big amount of Gold ? = Marriage and as gift on several occassions and also most of the black money are stored in gold.

As price of bitcoin was already surging due to high demand triggered by banned of bigger notes earlier this month and now this can push the price of bitcoin in indian local trading platform further. Good for indian bitcoin holders atleast...
legendary
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Subject title is bullshit. India did not outlaw gold. As always was the case, gold can be purchased with after-tax money.

The new thing is that the gov is now demanding that all gold be shown to be purchased with after-tax money. And, apparently, resorting to draconian measures to determine if each person's gold above some threshold has been purchased accordingly.

But it has not made gold illegal.
I can't even read the damn article, because I have an ad blocker which precludes me from doing so.  I am unwilling to disable it just for this site.  And yeah, I doubt there's much that's going to become of this. 

If India were to pull some shit like this, then yes bitcoin might benefit.  Don't know how many Indians actually use bitcoin--does anyone know?
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That's a surprising move, definitely not something that I would expect from India.

This does set an interesting president, though. It looks like India might be learning from the Chinese and they're going to be looking at getting their own piles of gold while the rest of the world ignores the seemingly coming fiat financial crisis.

When did it get to the point where China and India were more focused on their economy for the future than the western world?
legendary
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If they can ban gold, don't you think they will also ban btc? Why would you want to invest in something that you know is going to be banned?
Bigger question will be how they gonna ban bitcoin? Shut down local bitcoin trading platform or limit the number of bitcoin that can be exchanged per person yearly or monthly?

Both of the above will just force indians to send those bitcoin out of the country and exchange them out of their country. They will be happy to hold USD in foreign banks rather than holding INR in local banks.
legendary
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If they can ban gold, don't you think they will also ban btc? Why would you want to invest in something that you know is going to be banned?

You cant ban bitcoin. Russia already tried and failed. It doesnt work like that.

They can search your house all day but they wont find your bitcoins.
How do you know "Russia already tried and failed"? China "banned" bitcoin a few times and each time it crashed the bitcoin price. Yes, I understand that you can't ban bitcoins but they can coerce people into panic selling, which is what they intended anyway.

And yes, they can find bitcoin you stashed away in your computer, paper wallet, cloud, or exchanges.
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I think you have to keep in mind its saying that 500grams is ok for a married woman. 500g is worth like, what, ~20k$? I doubt too many indian people have that much to put in gold since they're pretty poor usually...
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INDIA JUST BANNED GOLD...

Your spamming of this across the board does not make it true. For it is false. See the bullshit thread you created for why.

I almost thought that this was true.. so I will take the information with a grain of salt, if it is not confirmed down the road.

This sounds like Civil forfeiture in the USA, but on a much larger scale (legal theft of property for no reason).

Call it what you like, but if you have gold, you now have to prove that it is clean or you lose it. They are going to rob their citizens blind...

I agree that if what you are saying is true, then that would be a very big deal, and probably have a considerable impact on bitcoin.  I remain a bit unclear, at the moment, regarding whether you are communicating accurately about the situation.

Just read the news: http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/gold-jewellery-married-lady-income-tax-raids-demonetisation/1/824321.html
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