The Definition of Winning in Gambling

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Quote from: fortunecrypto on June 05, 2019, 10:23:52 PM

I think both,

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successful profits or satisfied game even if you lose

the hardest thing to do is to stop when winning and not to continue anymore when losing, these two are hard to implement and takes control of yourself this is how I define winning in gambling.

Yes, I have that experience. I remember that when I played dice games, I can get more than 3 times of winning and that tempting me to continue the game. But fortunately, I only continue in one time, and then I close the site and do another thing so I can distract my mind to not think about the game.

Controlling ourselves is very important from gambling because if we lose control, then we might continue to play and we don't know if we can win again or even we will lose the money. That is very difficult to stop when winning because many people want to get another winning.

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Quote from: crwth on January 17, 2019, 05:08:50 AM

This is my result in searching the meaning of “Winning”

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Definition of winning (Entry 1 of 2)
1 : the act of one that wins : VICTORY

From: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/winning

How would you know that you have really one? Is it just one game? Only one chance where you get the W or the L? Is that already the Victory that is defined or Defeat when you lose?

This came into my thoughts when I read somewhere here in BTCT that when are you going to stop? And a lot of people have suggested that they will stop when they have already won. It got me thinking, how would be a Win?

There could be a lot of factors on when someone is going to stop. It probably depends on what type of person you are but seeing everyone has their own opinions, you could share everything here.

We are in a fast paced world where people would want to have instant income basically instant gratification. Could that be a win already? What is the motivation knowing that you are continue to win and lose when you gamble. What is the TRUE meaning of ”Winning” in gambling for you? Is it successful profits or satisfied game even if you lose?

I think both,

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successful profits or satisfied game even if you lose

the hardest thing to do is to stop when winning and not to continue anymore when losing, these two are hard to implement and takes control of yourself this is how I define winning in gambling.

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Quote from: crwth on January 17, 2019, 05:08:50 AM

What is the TRUE meaning of ”Winning” in gambling for you? Is it successful profits or satisfied game even if you lose?

I think there isn't much to philosophize about *winnings* in gambling. The true meaning of winning is literally to win. If you play accumulating losses on long run and have some winnings meanwhile it doesn't make you a winner, because on long run your total profit is negative.
The fact is that few gamblers will win, others will just accumulate losses. But it's not important to think much about it, what really matters is if you are having a good time gambling, if you are exciting yourself and feeling emotions that improve your mood.

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Quote from: Dreamchaser21 on January 17, 2019, 08:29:27 AM

For me winning is not all about making profit, it can also depend on your contentment. I’m happy for a small profit that I get in gambling, I can consider that one as a true winning because I was able to control myself to focus on my limit and don’t play go beyond my target amount. If you able to control yourself, its a great success.

We must accept that each of one of us has a different treatment in gambling and it differentiate us from profiteering and enjoying so what others want might not ours to like.

Quote from: IPVPIRL on June 04, 2019, 03:43:28 AM

A victory for any gambler is also when he manages to end the day having the same amount he started with.
Staying flat is ok for me too. Having a good time and not losing anything.
Still you have to count anything you spent like gas, food, beverages, casino entrance and tips. So a 20$ win might not be an actual win.

Lol the victory of every gambler will depend on what intentions he played,because satisfaction is from us and not from others to give us

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Quote from: thin on June 03, 2019, 02:35:35 AM

Quote from: thiscomm on June 02, 2019, 09:13:36 PM

victory and defeat are common in gambling. but when you get a certain satisfaction when you lose and feel satisfied when you get an advantage from what you give in gambling, it is one that you always feel victorious about.

I guess "get a certain satisfaction" is a wrong wording for what you feel in case of losing gambling. Yes, you had some emotional surge during play, but it rather more regret than satisfaction.

And I guess different emotions are important for a mental health anyway, just don't have overloaded with it.

Somehow there's gamblers who can be satisfied with the results of their activities even losing money is at stake, but for people who can't afford to lose
stress will be followed when mistakenly lose inside gambling house, it's important to understand such capabilities accept and not being to engage with
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Quote from: IPVPIRL on June 04, 2019, 03:43:28 AM

A victory for any gambler is also when he manages to end the day having the same amount he started with.
Staying flat is ok for me too. Having a good time and not losing anything.
Still you have to count anything you spent like gas, food, beverages, casino entrance and tips. So a 20$ win might not be an actual win.

Most gamblers cannot manage what he started with, and many of them get losing money in the gambling games. And if that is what they got, then that is not the definition of winning in gambling because we are losing the money. But maybe winning in gambling is when we can control ourselves, not being greedy, we know when we need to stop.

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A victory for any gambler is also when he manages to end the day having the same amount he started with.
Staying flat is ok for me too. Having a good time and not losing anything.
Still you have to count anything you spent like gas, food, beverages, casino entrance and tips. So a 20$ win might not be an actual win.

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Quote from: aioc on June 02, 2019, 12:08:24 AM

When a gambler says he will not stop until he wins, he really means it, so don't get surprised if you see gambler playing straight for 12 hours or more, and even if he losses he always comes back with that goal, that is why these people need professional help, they lose control of their senses to stop.

In my opinion, it is a very subjective approach to define how you define win in gambling. For me, it is making some good money in gambling and it is not always about the money but also about the thrill and joy I get when I gamble. At times, loosing does not matter as long as you enjoy the game like it had been the previous night the final of champions league.

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Quote from: thin on June 03, 2019, 02:35:35 AM

Quote from: thiscomm on June 02, 2019, 09:13:36 PM

victory and defeat are common in gambling. but when you get a certain satisfaction when you lose and feel satisfied when you get an advantage from what you give in gambling, it is one that you always feel victorious about.

I guess "get a certain satisfaction" is a wrong wording for what you feel in case of losing gambling. Yes, you had some emotional surge during play, but it rather more regret than satisfaction.

And I guess different emotions are important for a mental health anyway, just don't have overloaded with it.

Maybe the word "satisfaction" will define winning in gambling because if someone satisfaction with what he did, then I think that will means that he is winning something and it's not just related to gambling, but it's related to the others. That means, he got something from what he did before and he can have those feeling while he can stop in anytime. But as the other members said, we have a different opinion about winning in gambling.

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Quote from: thiscomm on June 02, 2019, 09:13:36 PM

victory and defeat are common in gambling. but when you get a certain satisfaction when you lose and feel satisfied when you get an advantage from what you give in gambling, it is one that you always feel victorious about.

I guess "get a certain satisfaction" is a wrong wording for what you feel in case of losing gambling. Yes, you had some emotional surge during play, but it rather more regret than satisfaction.

And I guess different emotions are important for a mental health anyway, just don't have overloaded with it.

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Quote from: thiscomm on June 02, 2019, 09:13:36 PM

victory and defeat are common in gambling.

Not only common, it's normal, as no gambler will not experience both.

Quote from: thiscomm on June 02, 2019, 09:13:36 PM

but when you get a certain satisfaction when you lose and feel satisfied when you get an advantage from what you give in gambling, it is one that you always feel victorious about.

That if you have the skills to control yourself and be very consistent in winning.
Normally, only few people can do that, most of us are losers so what we should learn is to control ourselves to minimize our loses.

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victory and defeat are common in gambling. but when you get a certain satisfaction when you lose and feel satisfied when you get an advantage from what you give in gambling, it is one that you always feel victorious about.

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To set a gambling limit and walk away when you have reached that limit.
To not gamble more than you can afford to lose.

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Each of us has a different version of winning, some of us will be happy on a small win, some are big, some are aiming for the jackpot, etc. It is all the same when we want to win it just depends on our main goal and that's what the real definition of winning in gambling. Your goal might change everyday but as long as you know how to win then i'm sure you will be happy with the result no matter what happens since you met your goal already.

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Quote from: Janation on May 18, 2019, 05:10:13 AM

Quote from: Initscri on May 18, 2019, 04:12:52 AM

LOL, as sad it is to say...

"Not losing money" Wink

Most of the gamblers will agree.

But there are some that will not agree with this since they will say that they are having fun. Some of my friends do the same, even if they lose or win, they still think they won since they are gambling with us and having fun with it. For me, the definition of winning in gambling is learning something and that is usually that gambling will not take you anywhere since you are dealing with infinite risks.

because the gambling goals of each player are different, therefore the meaning of a winning is different for them. for players who are looking for profit, of course smaller losses and bigger profits are absolute wins, but different for other players that looking for fun, like you said

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Quote from: aioc on June 02, 2019, 12:08:24 AM

When a gambler says he will not stop until he wins, he really means it, so don't get surprised if you see gambler playing straight for 12 hours or more, and even if he losses he always comes back with that goal, that is why these people need professional help, they lose control of their senses to stop.

That's merely a strong conviction towards expecting gambling profit. If we want to win, we should have that determinations and I think that's the biggest factor to become successful in any ways. Probably most of the drowned gamblers tend to be addicted, but enjoyment and fun were all together be experienced once you have won the betting games you prefer to play. Losing is always a part of the journey in gambling, so you as a player must be responsible.

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Quote from: thin on June 02, 2019, 05:07:59 AM

Quote from: aioc on June 02, 2019, 12:08:24 AM

When a gambler says he will not stop until he wins, he really means it, so don't get surprised if you see gambler playing straight for 12 hours or more, and even if he losses he always comes back with that goal, that is why these people need professional help, they lose control of their senses to stop.

well, gambling 12 hours or more put serious pressure on the gambler nerves. No matter if he wins or loses (probably both, otherwise it would end earlier, either because win enough, or lost everything) he should get an emotional exhaust at the end. And likely a physical too.

I think the definition of winning in gambling is not about time, how long you play if you are only for your own satisfaction it is something different even though you can afford to win after playing for a long time but usually most of them play for a long time will only spend money and time. So in my opinion those who are able to win big in a short time with the strategy that he uses, then that is a winning that not everyone can afford to get.

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Of course you will know that you are already winning when you have a positive profit while gambling(even a child can say it).

You can't win in any form of gambling when you always do it for profit only a small percentage of people will tell you their stories about their losses that's why your mindset will be always on winning but the old real fact is that you can't win with gambling over time.

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Winning is being achieved when you're satisfied with the results of the game.

That's the true meaning of winning in gambling. There's no real winner in gambling especially when you're there because of entertainment only. We have different states and the reason why we're gambling so we can't define a winner by having a wins. Everybody can be a winner based on the situation and the satisfaction that's needed by the player. Cheesy

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Quote from: Janation on May 18, 2019, 05:10:13 AM

Most of the gamblers will agree.

But there are some that will not agree with this since they will say that they are having fun. Some of my friends do the same, even if they lose or win, they still think they won since they are gambling with us and having fun with it. For me, the definition of winning in gambling is learning something and that is usually that gambling will not take you anywhere since you are dealing with infinite risks.

I know right?. At the end gambling are games, recreation, entertainment.

The unbalances come when people forget that they are the things mentioned before. Happens with gambling, happens with online and offline games, happens with everything labeled as entertainment.

It should be done for fun if you want to have a balanced life. If you passed through something really awful and are depressed, seek MMORPGs and find shelter and relief in them, i personally recommend WoW or FFXIV.

Going to gambling without measuring the resources you will spend everyday will lead to self-destruction in a really fast rate. The same thing could happen with the other option but controlling yourself will be easier with those two games.

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