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Gerald Davis
June 01, 2012, 01:36:50 PM
#25
Why not start a separate Android vs iPhone debate thread I can more easily ignore?

There was no debate.  Still the ignore button is over there on there on the left your highness.
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June 01, 2012, 12:50:58 PM
#24
Why not start a separate Android vs iPhone debate thread I can more easily ignore?
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Gerald Davis
June 01, 2012, 12:34:17 PM
#23
Yeah Apple just has this perception that it is "#1" because it is a single company w/ single product line.  There are for example more "iPhone 4" than any individual Android product.  However as a platform Android has completely anhilated iOS early mover advantage.  Not only has it surpassed iOS it continues to grow faster qtr over qtr and year over year so it is just pulling further and further ahead.  The last qtr that iOS outsold Android was Q4 ... 2009. Smiley



Having just bought a Samsung Galaxy Nexus I have to say that the new version of Android OS is the first one that really closes the gap with iOS.  It is intuitive, polished, and responsive.  No longer the "cheaper alternative" it is a rockstar.  The Galaxy Nexus has NFC hardware and the blockchain.info wallet already supports it.  No need for QR codes to transfer funds.  Unlocked with no contract and latest hardware, and an open platform.  Hard to beat.
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1ngldh
June 01, 2012, 12:30:04 PM
#22
"Market share? What's that?

What do you mean?  Android is doing amazingly well in marketshare.  It essentially caught up to Apple despite a 5 year headstart and competitors RIMM, Palm, and Windows mobile dead or dying.
Second isn't quite like first. Unfortunately the "Jesus phone" has a cult following that will be difficult to actually uproot.

EDIT: Nice edit, I see the graph now. Wow, it's farther along than I thought it was, and hopefully that trend continues.
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Gerald Davis
June 01, 2012, 12:28:11 PM
#21
"Market share? What's that?

What do you mean?


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June 01, 2012, 12:16:21 PM
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June 01, 2012, 12:02:19 PM
#18
Perhaps we should try Argentinian pesos. Those are legal and also mandatory in Argentina so they will have no problem in the Apple App Store.
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June 01, 2012, 11:29:36 AM
#17
Even if there is a jurisdiction where a legal issue arises, isn't the logical answer just to not sell in that jurisdiction? If I'm the president of Zimbabwe and make video game depictions of birds illegal, does the world lose angry birds? Maybe it's illegal in the MC/Visa jursidiction?  Roll Eyes
Another good point…and it makes me wonder if there aren't already other apps that are in fact illegal in some jurisdictions and for which Apple has allowed, but disabled just in those jurisdictions.
Steve, your stuff runs on iOS doesn't it? Has it been subject to any limitations?
We don't have any native apps, just web apps optimized for smartphone screens.
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June 01, 2012, 11:24:57 AM
#16
It's hilarious that Apple portrayed itself in advertisements for years as the young rebel next to the staid IBM PC (for example, see this photo: http://wpcdn2.padgadget.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/ipvpc.jpg).  Now, Apple is the establishment figure and Google/Android/Linux (and PC hardware upon which you can install any OS) is the young rebel. 

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1davout
June 01, 2012, 10:33:00 AM
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Another good point…and it makes me wonder if there aren't already other apps that are in fact illegal in some jurisdictions and for which Apple has allowed, but disabled just in those jurisdictions.
The developer chooses in which jurisdictions apps are to be made available.

In that case start with 1 country at a time.  Make it available in USA only.  If they deny it here, then demand proof of what laws it violates.
In their own terms "it's up to you to figure out".
What would be better is reference some lawyer advice and assert that it is legal.
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My money; Our Bitcoin.
June 01, 2012, 10:28:04 AM
#14
This is not surprising.

EFF tweet from a couple days ago:
Apple's devices are like beautiful crystal prisons https://eff.org/r.2abV
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June 01, 2012, 10:21:48 AM
#13
Another good point…and it makes me wonder if there aren't already other apps that are in fact illegal in some jurisdictions and for which Apple has allowed, but disabled just in those jurisdictions.
The developer chooses in which jurisdictions apps are to be made available.

In that case start with 1 country at a time.  Make it available in USA only.  If they deny it here, then demand proof of what laws it violates.

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1davout
June 01, 2012, 10:08:58 AM
#12
Another good point…and it makes me wonder if there aren't already other apps that are in fact illegal in some jurisdictions and for which Apple has allowed, but disabled just in those jurisdictions.
The developer chooses in which jurisdictions apps are to be made available.
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1ngldh
June 01, 2012, 10:04:07 AM
#11
Even if there is a jurisdiction where a legal issue arises, isn't the logical answer just to not sell in that jurisdiction? If I'm the president of Zimbabwe and make video game depictions of birds illegal, does the world lose angry birds? Maybe it's illegal in the MC/Visa jursidiction?  Roll Eyes
Another good point…and it makes me wonder if there aren't already other apps that are in fact illegal in some jurisdictions and for which Apple has allowed, but disabled just in those jurisdictions.
Steve, your stuff runs on iOS doesn't it? Has it been subject to any limitations?
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June 01, 2012, 09:54:36 AM
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Even if there is a jurisdiction where a legal issue arises, isn't the logical answer just to not sell in that jurisdiction? If I'm the president of Zimbabwe and make video game depictions of birds illegal, does the world lose angry birds? Maybe it's illegal in the MC/Visa jursidiction?  Roll Eyes
Another good point…and it makes me wonder if there aren't already other apps that are in fact illegal in some jurisdictions and for which Apple has allowed, but disabled just in those jurisdictions.
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June 01, 2012, 09:53:21 AM
#9
Was it hosting the block chain in the app? Maybe AT&T and Verizon said get rid of it because of data or something.
No, we got the same answer from Apple. We're using the appeal process, for the second time, we got stonewalled the first time.
We're not excluding a lawsuit since, as paying customers (developer licenses are not free) we believe we are entitled to either :
 - get told where the legal issue resides,
 - OR get an official developer guidelines update explicitly stating that Bitcoin is not cool on the AppStore (which would mean lots of press!)
+1 …I really like this approach.  Apple may have the right to reject any app for any reason from its store, but if there really is a jurisdiction where Bitcoin is deemed illegal, I think developers have a right to know it.  Alternatively, if the truth is that Apple has just decided to ban Bitcoin (specifically), or virtual currencies (generally), they need to fess up and be honest about that (and yes, I would think a lot of people would be interested to know that Apple is trying to stifle competition in the area of payment solutions).
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June 01, 2012, 09:46:00 AM
#8
Even if there is a jurisdiction where a legal issue arises, isn't the logical answer just to not sell in that jurisdiction? If I'm the president of Zimbabwe and make video game depictions of birds illegal, does the world lose angry birds? Maybe it's illegal in the MC/Visa jursidiction?  Roll Eyes
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1davout
June 01, 2012, 09:33:57 AM
#7
Was it hosting the block chain in the app? Maybe AT&T and Verizon said get rid of it because of data or something.
No, we got the same answer from Apple. We're using the appeal process, for the second time, we got stonewalled the first time.
We're not excluding a lawsuit since, as paying customers (developer licenses are not free) we believe we are entitled to either :
 - get told where the legal issue resides,
 - OR get an official developer guidelines update explicitly stating that Bitcoin is not cool on the AppStore (which would mean lots of press!)

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June 01, 2012, 09:33:11 AM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYecfV3ubP8

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