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Quote from: Cryptoking1205 on May 19, 2021, 03:29:30 PM

The fact TSLA is valued more then all the auto manufactures combined is absurd. You're naive to think big auto is just going to sit on the sidelines. Big auto has the infrastructure and production lines to mass produce fully electric vehicles for a fraction of the cost of a TSLA, something TSLA will never be able do. Ford is already leading the charge with the F-150 Lightning and converting old factories into fully electric vehicle production plants. TSLA is just as overhyped as Elon Musk.

I agree with you, the value of Tesla is too high in my opinion. The whole hype is based around Elon Musk and after the last few weeks I think we all realised that he can't be trusted anymore. How can you change your mind about bitcoins so quickly? The argument that the mining process is bad for the environment is false, all currencies cost money to create and support, it is not only Bitcoins. So by misusing his Twitter account he stopped whole crypto hype with a few tweets. We all should stop believing in Elon Musk.

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Quote from: Hydrogen on May 19, 2021, 06:44:45 PM

Tesla unveiled plans to design and build revolutionary new battery technology for 2022.
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Anyways, if someone wanted to claim tesla stock is overvalued, this might be one good place to start.

This is a good start indeed.
Many traders "buy the rumors" and "sell the news" and don't care much how true will these rumors prove to be as long as they get to earn a quick buck.
Elon knows all this and therefore knows how to feed them with the rumors they want to hear so the TSLA bubble stays inflated.

I've said already that Tesla is a over-hyped auto-maker wannabe. As long as they earn more from green certificates and Bitcoin than from building and selling cars I cannot rank them as proper automaker.
If they will come with a proper breakthrough, if they invent a much better (and also cheap enough) battery, then they'll have my praise. But not before. Not for rumors.

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Quote from: amishmanish on May 19, 2021, 11:31:57 PM

Quote from: DigitalFox on May 19, 2021, 10:17:59 PM

Quote from: Hydrogen on May 19, 2021, 06:44:45 PM

Tesla unveiled plans to design and build revolutionary new battery technology for 2022.

Tesla constantly unveils their plans for this and that, yet many of these projects later prove themselves to be unsustainable.

You cannot say that. The existing Tesla models have had several groundbreaking innovations. The Induction motor that the Tesla's use, the cooling pumps, battery management system are all systems that have not been seen before at such scale.

Tesla uses both magnetic and asynchronic (not sure about spelling) motors depending on the model (3 is magnetic, Y is asynchronic, for example). None of the motors themselves are ground braking innovations though cooling technologies Tesla develops are quite modern. BMS... nothing really new there, from what we saw. Do you know why other manufacturers don't use asynchronic motors in their cars? The answer is simple, these cost way more than a magnetic motor.
Having said all that I'm not arguing about Tesla cars as a whole, they are very good and I wouldn't mind buying one for personal use. But my previous post's point was different. I meant things like Hyperloop, Power wall etc.

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Quote from: DigitalFox on May 19, 2021, 10:17:59 PM

Quote from: Hydrogen on May 19, 2021, 06:44:45 PM

Tesla unveiled plans to design and build revolutionary new battery technology for 2022.

Tesla constantly unveils their plans for this and that, yet many of these projects later prove themselves to be unsustainable.

You cannot say that. The existing Tesla models have had several groundbreaking innovations. The Induction motor that the Tesla's use, the cooling pumps, battery management system are all systems that have not been seen before at such scale.

Couple this with the battery tech update shared by Hydrogen, it is easy to see where Tesla, the company gets its value from. Now about TSLA, the stock, that is up to the market to decide. One thing is clear that the sort of P/E ratios have never been seen before with such a huge company. Its downfall can't really be due to its fundamentals as a tech giant, but probably due to Musk's irrational behavior since he has linked, then de-linked, then again liked Tesla with Bitcoin.

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Tesla is getting bigger and bigger just with their idea but yet to deliver the actual products to the customers. Probably in future all these people will realize that they are investing on an overhyped share, but now they are the bigger electric cars and with the word electric cars are the future they are keeping them in the leading position but in the next 10 years we will see every car manufacturers will be doing the same.

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Quote from: Hydrogen on May 19, 2021, 06:44:45 PM

Tesla unveiled plans to design and build revolutionary new battery technology for 2022.

Tesla constantly unveils their plans for this and that, yet many of these projects later prove themselves to be unsustainable.

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Quote from: Hydrogen on May 19, 2021, 06:44:45 PM

Tesla unveiled plans to design and build revolutionary new battery technology for 2022.

They claim gains of 5 times the energy, 18% gains in range and 6 times the power. Not to mention gains in manufacturing efficiency and lower cost production.

They plan to license this technology to other automakers in the future. The way that nintendo licensed old cartridge technology over existing technology like CDs/DVDs to earn an extra profit.

Anyways, if someone wanted to claim tesla stock is overvalued, this might be one good place to start.

This new battery could be a big step in energy storage aspect of our civilization because we lack innovation in that part and I think that if this is a successful product, pretty sure it will make the value of Tesla go up, I think that if we want to make some money in the future, I am pretty sure that Tesla can be a part of that.

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Quote from: Hydrogen on May 19, 2021, 06:44:45 PM

They claim gains of 5 times the energy, 18% gains in range and 6 times the power. Not to mention gains in manufacturing efficiency and lower cost production.

They plan to license this technology to other automakers in the future. The way that nintendo licensed old cartridge technology over existing technology like CDs/DVDs to earn an extra profit.

Anyways, if someone wanted to claim tesla stock is overvalued, this might be one good place to start.

This is a great example for why TSLA should not be valued as simply just a car manufacturer.

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Tesla unveiled plans to design and build revolutionary new battery technology for 2022.

They claim gains of 5 times the energy, 18% gains in range and 6 times the power. Not to mention gains in manufacturing efficiency and lower cost production.

They plan to license this technology to other automakers in the future. The way that nintendo licensed old cartridge technology over existing technology like CDs/DVDs to earn an extra profit.

Anyways, if someone wanted to claim tesla stock is overvalued, this might be one good place to start.

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The fact TSLA is valued more then all the auto manufactures combined is absurd. You're naive to think big auto is just going to sit on the sidelines. Big auto has the infrastructure and production lines to mass produce fully electric vehicles for a fraction of the cost of a TSLA, something TSLA will never be able do. Ford is already leading the charge with the F-150 Lightning and converting old factories into fully electric vehicle production plants. TSLA is just as overhyped as Elon Musk.

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