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legendary
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November 29, 2013, 03:24:21 AM
#32
I might sound like a grumpy old man but I can't stand listening or watching the media at the moment - articles about Bitcoin just make me roll my eyes or cringe excessively.

I am a grumpy old man, and I could never stand listening to or watching the media. Articles about anything make me roll my eyes and cringe excessively, most times accompanied by vomit.

I'm grumpy and old myself ...

@Holliday is my memory playing tricks on me or is your post/activity value fluctuating more than btc those days?  
newbie
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November 29, 2013, 01:59:14 AM
#31
Kind of disappointing, coming from the Economist. It's a good paper, in my opinion, on most topics, but that's a pretty pedestrian analysis of Bitcoin.

For me TE is just Keynesian spam and tldr version of Time magazine without the nice pictures. Imo they should start with an edition for adults. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TT81o4hL4c

its not just you, everything they write is tilted that way.
legendary
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Sine secretum non libertas
November 28, 2013, 11:55:43 PM
#30
The quality of the reasoning in the Economist has been on a severe downtrend over the past 6 months or so, and this is no exception, perhaps a local nadir.
sr. member
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November 28, 2013, 11:48:08 PM
#29
I might sound like a grumpy old man but I can't stand listening or watching the media at the moment - articles about Bitcoin just make me roll my eyes or cringe excessively.
legendary
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November 28, 2013, 10:03:52 PM
#28
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It may be time to sell.

Thank you for this genius, hedged insight The Economist.  
legendary
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dafar consulting
November 28, 2013, 08:17:34 PM
#27
Kind of disappointing, coming from the Economist. It's a good paper, in my opinion, on most topics, but that's a pretty pedestrian analysis of Bitcoin.

Came here to post this.


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November 28, 2013, 08:06:53 PM
#26
callate juan Wink o alex? Cheesy
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November 28, 2013, 06:45:46 PM
#25
Legacy financial system, legacy financial journalists meh.
Don't expect much different.

legendary
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November 28, 2013, 06:30:13 PM
#24
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Ben Bernanke, chairman of the Federal Reserve, told a Senate committee on virtual currencies that the idea “may hold long-term promise”.
I keep reading this misleading quote again and again, it's getting me mad! xD
Bernanke didn't say that he thinks that Bitcoin nor other virtual currencies “may hold long-term promise”, he was quoting someone who said that and many other things back in 1995.

Fucking stupid press, why don't they read the original source instead of coping headlines from other newspapers Tongue

Also I'm pretty sure he knows about the assassination market very well... I really doubt he had any kind of appreciation on Bitcoin.

You're such a clown. Go buy back at a loss already. I have nothing against bears, but you're so obviously driven by an agenda (probably because you'd prefer *not* to buy back at a loss, but at the price at which you foolishly sold), it's not even funny anymore...

Here's the paragraph from the letter in question:

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For example, in 1995, the U.S. House of Representatives held hearings on “the future of money” at which early versions of virtual currencies and other innovations were discussed. Vice Chairman Alan Blinder’s testimony at that time made the key point that while these types of innovations may pose risks related to law enforcement and supervisory matters, there are also areas in which they may hold long-term promise, particularly if the innovations promote a faster, more secure and more efficient payment system.

You get that this is Bernanke's letter reply to the question: "Yo Berni baby, what do you think of this Bitcoin thing?" So anything he writes in there, whether it's a quote or not, is probably carefully chosen, not just some random collection of words. So this line, about innovations and long-term promise, is one of the few statements that are not completely noncommittal (like the part about how the Fed can't regulate shit because btc isn't issued by a bank). He's quoting somebody else, sure, but the key word here is 'key point'. This is, in the clandestine way of phrasing shit that politicians, diplomats and CEOs like to employ, *exactly* what the press has called it: a cautious endorsement by Bernanke (emphasis on cautious), followed by a big honking "and it's not my business anyway".
legendary
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November 28, 2013, 06:14:59 PM
#23
To the trader who wants to get in. 

Free advice is worth every penny.  But here's what I think.

Put a buy order somewhere around $900.  That's still in the volatility band, I think.

In a couple weeks it may dip that low or lower momentarily and then continue gaining. It may go to $1500 before it does though. 

Then again, it might dip that low and keep falling.  If that happens put in more buys at $800, $600, and $500, if you can get them in before the price goes down that far. 

And finally, it might never get down to $900 again, but I kinda doubt it.  If that happens, your buy order does nothing harmful to you except you lose the opportunity if it dips to $925 and goes right back up.

I'm thinking in the long run it will continue to go up.  But it'll lose 50% of its value and gain it back a few more times along the way. In the past it's lost 80% or more once or twice, 50% a half-dozen times. 

You don't have to be crazy to trade Bitcoin, but it helps. It also helps if you make faint clanging noises when you walk. The line between the two is hazy at times though. 
hero member
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November 28, 2013, 06:02:34 PM
#22

I sold 900 at $970.  A month ago the price was $200.  I can't wait to buy back and make a killing.


Yeah, traders are making a killing, reminds me of the tech bubble days... good times.

Long may the gods and goddesses of volatility shine on bitcoin! Cheesy
legendary
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November 28, 2013, 05:48:39 PM
#21
I share your vision, but it's still unsure. No one can predict the future Wink.

I think the price of the Bitcoin keeps rising the following years, $2000 soon isn't too far away in my opinon.

Yes, no-one can predict the future, that is for sure.

I'm waiting to hear that whistling sound as the price drops like a stone Cheesy

I'll be happy to buy in lower and hear the sob stories of people who bought in above $1000 and who sold out on the way down... only to hear them moan again as the price appreciates past $1000 again. It's a tough life for some folks Wink

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Key point: wait for the whistling sound Cheesy



I sold 900 at $970.  A month ago the price was $200.  I can't wait to buy back and make a killing.
hero member
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November 28, 2013, 05:44:48 PM
#20
I share your vision, but it's still unsure. No one can predict the future Wink.

I think the price of the Bitcoin keeps rising the following years, $2000 soon isn't too far away in my opinon.

Yes, no-one can predict the future, that is for sure.

I'm waiting to hear that whistling sound as the price drops like a stone Cheesy

I'll be happy to buy in lower and hear the sob stories of people who bought in above $1000 and who sold out on the way down... only to hear them moan again as the price appreciates past $1000 again. It's a tough life for some folks Wink

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Key point: wait for the whistling sound Cheesy

legendary
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November 28, 2013, 05:37:13 PM
#19
I share your vision, but it's still unsure. No one can predict the future Wink.

I think the price of the Bitcoin keeps rising the following years, $2000 soon isn't too far away in my opinon.
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November 28, 2013, 05:33:11 PM
#18
The only thing they could think about then is 'Why was I so dumb not to sell it at $1000'..         I'm a bit in between with my view, sell some (part of) Bitcoins and do something fun with that, but keep a larger part for the future.


No big deal of not selling at $1000+ even if the price crashes...you will have oportunity to sell at $1000+ next time during next year...
legendary
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Live like there is no tomorrow!
November 28, 2013, 05:23:44 PM
#17
<. . . > You should't invest in bitcoins with money you have a problem losing obviously though.

That's really smart, but not all humans are that smart. Regarding history, there were a lot of people even taking loans to invest in some high risk investments.. And many of them failed.
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November 28, 2013, 05:23:40 PM
#16
Kind of disappointing, coming from the Economist. It's a good paper, in my opinion, on most topics, but that's a pretty pedestrian analysis of Bitcoin.
The Economist always publish crappy articles about Bitcoin.
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November 28, 2013, 05:19:56 PM
#15
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Ben Bernanke, chairman of the Federal Reserve, told a Senate committee on virtual currencies that the idea “may hold long-term promise”.
I keep reading this misleading quote again and again, it's getting me mad! xD
Bernanke didn't say that he thinks that Bitcoin nor other virtual currencies “may hold long-term promise”, he was quoting someone who said that and many other things back in 1995.

Fucking stupid press, why don't they read the original source instead of coping headlines from other newspapers Tongue

Also I'm pretty sure he knows about the assassination market very well... I really doubt he had any kind of appreciation on Bitcoin.
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November 28, 2013, 05:13:45 PM
#14
Kind of disappointing, coming from the Economist. It's a good paper, in my opinion, on most topics, but that's a pretty pedestrian analysis of Bitcoin.

For me TE is just Keynesian spam and tldr version of Time magazine without the nice pictures. Imo they should start with an edition for adults. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TT81o4hL4c
legendary
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November 28, 2013, 05:10:31 PM
#13
Kind of disappointing, coming from the Economist. It's a good paper, in my opinion, on most topics, but that's a pretty pedestrian analysis of Bitcoin.
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