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legendary
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Merit: 1000
August 13, 2014, 12:04:59 AM
#33
It is no end, it is only a correction after the altcoin bubble frenzy that started last year.

I would wait the end of the year to make end of the crypto world calls, because most people have some kind of religious believe that bitcoin price will grow year after year
hero member
Activity: 622
Merit: 500
August 12, 2014, 11:48:32 PM
#32
Of course this isn't the end, there have been many more serious crashes over the past few years.  The real question is what Bitcoin gets the regular Joe beyond a simple credit card, Google Wallet, Paypal, etc.  Bitcoin is definitely Libertarian geek orgasm territory, and that's great, but it will take much more than that to be anything but a curiosity.  Most people like the comfort of knowing that, within reason, if they are the victim of fraudulent credit card transactions or banking withdrawals, they will be fully reimbursed.  With Bitcoin, at this point, you'd better have damn good personal security protocols in place or else you'll be flat broke.  The primary thing Bitcoin has going for it is that its future is only limited by the creativity of developers (and unfortunately, the whims of regulators).  If developers can turn Bitcoin (or whatever crypto reins supreme) into something everyone must have, speculators will be handsomely rewarded.  Me, I'm skeptical.  If it's something the powers that be cannot control, the technology will be marginalized and made irrelevant.  In the meantime, it will remain a great way to pile up USD/gold/real estate/whatever as newbies enter the market.

Bitcoin is first and foremost an efficient and secure store of value and means to easily transfer that value.  Everything else you mentioned is just trivial bells and whistles at best.
full member
Activity: 224
Merit: 100
THE GAME OF CHANCE. CHANGED.
August 12, 2014, 10:51:28 PM
#31
The only alt that might have a chance of surviving long term is an anonymous one, and only if it has either practical use or is as good a store of value as bitcoin.

I disagree here, because any completely anonymous coin is going to be crippled by regulation, which will hinder mass adoption.
Anonymous money can't be regulated. That's the point of it all. And mass adoption is in no way necessary.

Its not necessary if you are just using it as a means of exchange. If you are hoping for the price to go way up, that won't happen because that would require infrastructure and mass adoption which would be stonewalled by regulators.  In the government's eyes, the only reason someone would want an anonymous currency, is if they have something to hide or are breaking the law. Sad but true.

There is no technology in existence that can guarantee anonymous. If you do doggy thing and grow so large that it attract attention, you will get busted.
legendary
Activity: 1456
Merit: 1001
This is the land of wolves now & you're not a wolf
August 12, 2014, 09:32:59 PM
#30
The only alt that might have a chance of surviving long term is an anonymous one, and only if it has either practical use or is as good a store of value as bitcoin.

I disagree here, because any completely anonymous coin is going to be crippled by regulation, which will hinder mass adoption.
Anonymous money can't be regulated. That's the point of it all. And mass adoption is in no way necessary.

Its not necessary if you are just using it as a means of exchange. If you are hoping for the price to go way up, that won't happen because that would require infrastructure and mass adoption which would be stonewalled by regulators.  In the government's eyes, the only reason someone would want an anonymous currency, is if they have something to hide or are breaking the law. Sad but true.
legendary
Activity: 889
Merit: 1013
August 12, 2014, 09:08:07 PM
#29
the only end that is coming is the end of bullshit government paper money.
its only a matter of time until the misallocation of capital from all the arbitrary money printing brings the economy down, causing yet another QE panic printing and hyperinflation.
after which only gold and bitcoin will be money and nothing else.
Word
legendary
Activity: 2156
Merit: 1070
August 12, 2014, 08:48:02 PM
#28
Of course this isn't the end, there have been many more serious crashes over the past few years.  The real question is what Bitcoin gets the regular Joe beyond a simple credit card, Google Wallet, Paypal, etc.  Bitcoin is definitely Libertarian geek orgasm territory, and that's great, but it will take much more than that to be anything but a curiosity.  Most people like the comfort of knowing that, within reason, if they are the victim of fraudulent credit card transactions or banking withdrawals, they will be fully reimbursed.  With Bitcoin, at this point, you'd better have damn good personal security protocols in place or else you'll be flat broke.  The primary thing Bitcoin has going for it is that its future is only limited by the creativity of developers (and unfortunately, the whims of regulators).  If developers can turn Bitcoin (or whatever crypto reins supreme) into something everyone must have, speculators will be handsomely rewarded.  Me, I'm skeptical.  If it's something the powers that be cannot control, the technology will be marginalized and made irrelevant.  In the meantime, it will remain a great way to pile up USD/gold/real estate/whatever as newbies enter the market.

You make valid points but the viewpoint you comment from seems pretty myopic.  You make it sound like the planet has regulation or specific must haves. But in truth the different parts of the world have different regulations and different problems that need solutions. Bitcoin protocol allows developments to proceed on many layers across many cultures and countries. Bitcoin does not have to be universally accepted to be very disruptive.
sr. member
Activity: 280
Merit: 250
August 12, 2014, 08:26:55 PM
#27
Of course this isn't the end, there have been many more serious crashes over the past few years.  The real question is what Bitcoin gets the regular Joe beyond a simple credit card, Google Wallet, Paypal, etc.  Bitcoin is definitely Libertarian geek orgasm territory, and that's great, but it will take much more than that to be anything but a curiosity.  Most people like the comfort of knowing that, within reason, if they are the victim of fraudulent credit card transactions or banking withdrawals, they will be fully reimbursed.  With Bitcoin, at this point, you'd better have damn good personal security protocols in place or else you'll be flat broke.  The primary thing Bitcoin has going for it is that its future is only limited by the creativity of developers (and unfortunately, the whims of regulators).  If developers can turn Bitcoin (or whatever crypto reins supreme) into something everyone must have, speculators will be handsomely rewarded.  Me, I'm skeptical.  If it's something the powers that be cannot control, the technology will be marginalized and made irrelevant.  In the meantime, it will remain a great way to pile up USD/gold/real estate/whatever as newbies enter the market.
legendary
Activity: 1232
Merit: 1011
Monero Evangelist
August 12, 2014, 08:21:09 PM
#26
anyway anonymous coins are not very necessary.. i have never need such a coin in all my time i have been with cryptos.. and even if i need that i could use a mixer.
But alot of people DO need such a coin.
sr. member
Activity: 462
Merit: 250
August 12, 2014, 07:55:22 PM
#25
The only alt that might have a chance of surviving long term is an anonymous one, and only if it has either practical use or is as good a store of value as bitcoin.

I disagree here, because any completely anonymous coin is going to be crippled by regulation, which will hinder mass adoption.
Anonymous money can't be regulated. That's the point of it all. And mass adoption is in no way necessary.

anyway anonymous coins are not very necessary.. i have never need such a coin in all my time i have been with cryptos.. and even if i need that i could use a mixer.
legendary
Activity: 2268
Merit: 1278
August 12, 2014, 07:16:59 PM
#24
The only alt that might have a chance of surviving long term is an anonymous one, and only if it has either practical use or is as good a store of value as bitcoin.

I disagree here, because any completely anonymous coin is going to be crippled by regulation, which will hinder mass adoption.
Anonymous money can't be regulated. That's the point of it all. And mass adoption is in no way necessary.
legendary
Activity: 1456
Merit: 1001
This is the land of wolves now & you're not a wolf
August 12, 2014, 07:04:03 PM
#23
The only alt that might have a chance of surviving long term is an anonymous one, and only if it has either practical use or is as good a store of value as bitcoin.

I disagree here, because any completely anonymous coin is going to be crippled by regulation, which will hinder mass adoption.
sr. member
Activity: 252
Merit: 250
Skoupi the Great
August 12, 2014, 04:35:12 PM
#22
Litecoin has a solid userbase from old school crypto enthusiasts.
Yet it falls without rebounding, and the only little bounces we seem to be only short squeezes from margin trading.
How can you explain that?

Speculative money is moving out.
hero member
Activity: 742
Merit: 500
August 12, 2014, 04:17:15 PM
#21
Litecoin has a solid userbase from old school crypto enthusiasts.
Yet it falls without rebounding, and the only little bounces we seem to be only short squeezes from margin trading.
How can you explain that?
hero member
Activity: 742
Merit: 500
August 12, 2014, 04:15:24 PM
#20
It's number two just because it's an "historical altcoin", one of the first and has a LOT of time at its advantage compared to other alts. But as you can see things are turning around.
 It's just overbought useless crap.
Completely, utterly false statement. MANY alt coins came way before LTC. You just haven't done the research as to WHY it was able to supplant the others, and still has the high marketcap that it has.  There are valid reasons.

But whatever man, I guess we'll see if LTC is still #2 this same time next year.  Let's check back and see.  My bet is yes it will still be #2.
lol dude, i meant one of the first compared to the gazillion altcoins coming out now.
what should be the reasons of LTC survinving long term?  micro payments? fast transactions (that any new coin has)?    
And i mean GOOD reasons, not these little details nobody cares and that any altcoin that has actually innovation can have.
What are the reasons?


For the moment it's falling and falling (most importantly, distancing itself from BTC as you can clearly see by the LTC/BTC CONSTANLY and consistently dropping).

Nobody seems to want this overbought (second in market cap) falling knife.

LTC is pure speculation and this fact seems to slowly catch up. same with the other old stagnant coins listed on BTC-E.
sr. member
Activity: 448
Merit: 250
August 12, 2014, 04:12:10 PM
#19
the only end that is coming is the end of bullshit government paper money.
its only a matter of time until the misallocation of capital from all the arbitrary money printing brings the economy down, causing yet another QE panic printing and hyperinflation.
after which only gold and bitcoin will be money and nothing else.
sr. member
Activity: 252
Merit: 250
Skoupi the Great
August 12, 2014, 04:04:13 PM
#18
Litecoin has a solid userbase from old school crypto enthusiasts.
Obviously it doesn't add up anything to the general concept but it works, has a secure network and a team that works closely with bitcoin devs.
legendary
Activity: 1582
Merit: 1019
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August 12, 2014, 03:49:43 PM
#17
The Reptilians have decreed that only Bitcoin, Jackpotcoin, and Infinitecoin will survive the coming purge.
legendary
Activity: 2156
Merit: 1070
August 12, 2014, 03:47:12 PM
#16
Just as I expected. Lets compare coins with their respective aths.
Btc 560 - 1200 dollar
Ppc 0,7 - >10 dollar.    LOOOOL
NMC 1,3 - 16 dollar
Ltc 4 - 47 dollar

We need to realize that the dumpings will continue. BTV will survive but it seems altcoins are losing the battle.
Lol at PPC specifically. It will get to 0,0 soon.

Yeah......the ultimate fate of the shitcoins was always pretty obvious but the way Litecoin is going is surprising me. It just seemed somehow to be the natural order of things that Litecoin would be #2 to Bitcoin, but it seems that there is only Bitcoin. Litecoin is just another shit-coin with zero practical uptake.


I don`t think so, i still think it will be number 2 don`t understand why it is going so down

LTC is going down for many reasons, one of which is one whale has dumped close to 500k litecoin in order to buy DRK and BTC.
legendary
Activity: 3710
Merit: 5286
August 12, 2014, 03:41:26 PM
#15
It's number two just because it's an "historical altcoin", one of the first and has a LOT of time at its advantage compared to other alts. But as you can see things are turning around.
 It's just overbought useless crap.
Completely, utterly false statement. MANY alt coins came way before LTC. You just haven't done the research as to WHY it was able to supplant the others, and still has the high marketcap that it has.  There are valid reasons.

But whatever man, I guess we'll see if LTC is still #2 this same time next year.  Let's check back and see.  My bet is yes it will still be #2.
hero member
Activity: 910
Merit: 1000
August 12, 2014, 03:39:40 PM
#14
Merchant adoption outpacing consumer adoption - I think that accounts for Bitcoin's low price now. As for the altcoins... many will (should?) die soon enough.
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