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Here are the facts: Dorian

1) Dorian has bad english skills, he used incomplete sentences, bad punctuation, and capitilzation.

2) Dorian denied being Satoshi and said he didn't even know what Bitcoin was until 2 weeks ago

3) Dorian was relatively easy to track down

4) Dorian was working for the U.S government government on classified projects.

5) Dorian is age 64 as of 2014

6) Dorian Nakamoto graduated from California State Polytechnic University in Pomona, Calif., with a degree in physics.
7) The IP from exit point of first transaction with Finey is a dynamic Ip located around Los Angeles

Here are the facts: Satoshi Nakamoto

5) According to Satoshis many posts, he has good english skills

6) Satoshi's age is 38 years old, though most likely age 43 now since he created Bitcoin five years ago, according to the p2pfoundation profile

7) Satoshi used the Tor program to completely hide his Ip Address, so even the admin on this site had no way of tracking him down


#1 theory: Dorian is indeed Satoshi, but playing it off to his amusement, why would someone who worked on classified projects for the U.S Military not have good english skills? The letter he wrote showing his bad english was probably due to him being drunk. He also doesn't want to be in the spotlight, and thus chooses to remain anonymous, although that's gone now.

#2 theory: Dorian is Not Satoshi, Satoshi's p2pfoundation account made an announcement after years of being offline saying," I am not Dorian Nakamoto." The real Satoshi is someone completely different, with Satoshi Nakamot just being a name he made up, to confuse anyone trying to deduce his real identity in the future. He will reveal himself when he feels the time is right.

#3 theory: Satoshi Nakamoto backwards spells otomakan ihsotas which can be translated into Internet Armaggadeon, Satoshi is the the fifth horseman, the Keyboard King, who will bring an end to the internet as we know it.

#4 theory: Satoshi is a a cyborg from the future.



http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/forum/topics/bitcoin-open-source?commentId=2003008%3AComment%3A52186
http://techcrunch.com/2014/03/06/satoshi-dorian/
http://mag.newsweek.com/2014/03/14/bitcoin-satoshi-nakamoto.html

* I'm going by information given from Satoshi's official profile on p2pfoundation and bitcointalk, as well as the information given in the news articles about Dorian nakamoto*

#5 theory: fake "scoop" to make a diversion and forget bad news like Mtgox + Flexcoin
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Dorian is Mr. Miyagi from Karate Kid
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Another weird Dorian fact....

Love this quote from the AP

Asked if he was technically able to come up with the idea for bitcoin, Nakamoto responded: "Capability? Yes, but any programmer could do that."

How many people are really technically capable?  It has been suggested that there is only three hundred people in the world with the knowledge and skill to have done this.  
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I haven't seen any facts yet. I've only heard circumstantial evidence.
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the reasons are reasonable !! Wink Cool Cool


Here are the facts: Dorian

1) Dorian has bad english skills, he used incomplete sentences, bad punctuation, and capitilzation.

2) Dorian denied being Satoshi and said he didn't even know what Bitcoin was until 2 weeks ago

3) Dorian was relatively easy to track down

4) Dorian was working for the U.S government government on classified projects.

5) Dorian is age 64 as of 2014

6) Dorian Nakamoto graduated from California State Polytechnic University in Pomona, Calif., with a degree in physics.
7) The IP from exit point of first transaction with Finey is a dynamic Ip located around Los Angeles

Here are the facts: Satoshi Nakamoto

5) According to Satoshis many posts, he has good english skills

6) Satoshi's age is 38 years old, though most likely age 43 now since he created Bitcoin five years ago, according to the p2pfoundation profile

7) Satoshi used the Tor program to completely hide his Ip Address, so even the admin on this site had no way of tracking him down


#1 theory: Dorian is indeed Satoshi, but playing it off to his amusement, why would someone who worked on classified projects for the U.S Military not have good english skills? The letter he wrote showing his bad english was probably due to him being drunk. He also doesn't want to be in the spotlight, and thus chooses to remain anonymous, although that's gone now.

#2 theory: Dorian is Not Satoshi, Satoshi's p2pfoundation account made an announcement after years of being offline saying," I am not Dorian Nakamoto." The real Satoshi is someone completely different, with Satoshi Nakamot just being a name he made up, to confuse anyone trying to deduce his real identity in the future. He will reveal himself when he feels the time is right.

#3 theory: Satoshi Nakamoto backwards spells otomakan ihsotas which can be translated into Internet Armaggadeon, Satoshi is the the fifth horseman, the Keyboard King, who will bring an end to the internet as we know it.

#4 theory: Satoshi is a a cyborg from the future.



http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/forum/topics/bitcoin-open-source?commentId=2003008%3AComment%3A52186
http://techcrunch.com/2014/03/06/satoshi-dorian/
http://mag.newsweek.com/2014/03/14/bitcoin-satoshi-nakamoto.html

* I'm going by information given from Satoshi's official profile on p2pfoundation and bitcointalk, as well as the information given in the news articles about Dorian nakamoto*
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There is literally no reason to believe Dorian is satoshi over anyone else. Just one reporter decided to randomly pick him, thats all. He COULD be satoshi, but so COULD I. Nobody knows.

Confirming! The reporter randomly picked a man named Satoshi Nakamoto in search of someone named Satoshi Nakamoto, this was done purely by chance with no consideration paid to any other external fact. Heck even you could be named Satoshi Nakamoto!

There is literally no reason to misuse words like random, nobody, and could. There is a real argument to be made about Dorian not founding Bitcoins... I think all of the members of this forum would appreciate a bit more effort.
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Basically you have two claims of fact here, one from the reporter quoting Dorian and one from Dorian directly.

Allegedly, Dorian said to Goodman:  "I am no longer involved in that and cannot discuss it. It’s been turned over to other people."
He was talking about engineering, not bitcoin.
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Basically you have two claims of fact here, one from the reporter quoting Dorian and one from Dorian directly.

Allegedly, Dorian said to Goodman:  "I am no longer involved in that and cannot discuss it. It’s been turned over to other people."

This statement is consistent with a number of possibilities.

  • Goodman is lying
  • Goodman misunderstood what he said
  • Dorian actually said it and intended it to sound like it did, but was lying
  • Same, but he was telling the truth

Then there's Dorian's explicit denial of being Satoshi.

  • Dorian is not Satoshi and is telling the truth, which is what someone who is not Satoshi would probably do
  • Dorian is Satoshi and is refusing to admit it, which is what someone who is Satoshi would probably do

In other words, the statements we have combined with who made them and the circumstances are completely consistent with any imaginable set of facts, and there is no particular reason to believe one set of possible facts over another.  In short, we have a lot of noise and no information, making this a fairly typical "news" media incident about personalities rather than facts.
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Yep a poll would be nice , I however will vote he is not Satoshi

Polls are pointless.

The mob has already made up their mind although past experience tells me that the mob are normally always wrong.
So you are telling me that mob is wrong here too..! because as far as i know and understood after reading many posts a very higher number of members came to conclusion that Daroin is not the one the world is looking for.
And yeah I agree that polls are not that meaningful as they should be.
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I haven't seen any facts yet. I've only heard circumstantial evidence.
There is no real evidence in this case.
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Yep a poll would be nice , I however will vote he is not Satoshi

Polls are pointless.

The mob has already made up their mind although past experience tells me that the mob are normally always wrong.
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Quote from: Joshuar on Today at 03:49:07 PM
7) The IP from exit point of first transaction with Finey is a dynamic Ip located around Los Angeles
Really? How?

The log of Finey with the first transaction give this dynamic IP:

Code:
h-68-164-57-219.lsan.ca.dynamic.megapath.net
Los Angeles, California
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7) The IP from exit point of first transaction with Finey is a dynamic Ip located around Los Angeles
Really? How?

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6) Satoshi's age is 38 years old, though most likely age 43 now since he created Bitcoin five years ago, according to the p2pfoundation profile
This is no fact!

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Does Dorion have any documented programming skills?

Dorian worked for the U.S Military on things that are now classified. You can assume if you want to, that it involved programming.

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how about creating a poll regarding same..!


Yep a poll would be nice , I however will vote he is not Satoshi
That is the obvious answer , but i'll love to see people having different opinion , and there absurd logic to prove it.
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how about creating a poll regarding same..!


Yep a poll would be nice , I however will vote he is not Satoshi
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Hmmm and this :

  • Dorian Nakamoto graduated from California State Polytechnic University in Pomona, Calif., with a degree in physics.
  • The IP from exit point of first transaction with Finey is a dynamic Ip located around Los Angeles
  • No famous japanese with the name of Satoshi Nakamoto. So why choose this name ?
  • His first name before he changed is Satoshi

Nothing really with this but you have old peoples very smart in computer science/programmation.
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Who is Dorion? You mean Dorian? How can we even take this post seriously if you couldn't spell his name right.
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It was created and that's all that matters.
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Does Dorion have any documented programming skills?
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