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legendary
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March 12, 2023, 06:54:21 PM
#33
There are some casinos out there that uses their "no KYC requirements" adverts as a leverage to gain more users who are looking to play in a casino that doesn't ask for these things. There are still a lot of them out there up until now, though dealing with these casinos can be pretty tricky given that most of them ends up being a scam site. There aren't a lot of legitimate casinos left with no KYC requirements nowadays, because most have transitioned to no KYC upon registration, but upon winning X amount you'll be required to submit them.
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March 12, 2023, 06:47:47 PM
#32
Have you ever seen a online casino website that displays, No kYC requirements or KYC requirement for **** amount of withdrawal before? And why won't any online casinos do something like this? I believe this is suppose to boost users and players confidence when they are about to try out new gambling platforms for the first time.

I believe this is still affecting online gambling platforms because this is one of the most common issues that online gamblers are still facing.   
We have tons of no kyc casinos around and infact yoh can withdraw a large amounts from most casinos without being asked for KYC verification, this is so because popular casinos like stake.com allow players to withdraws hundred to thousands of dollars in cryptocurrency without KYC.

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March 12, 2023, 06:40:43 PM
#31


     But there are other casinos that immediately say that you need to submit a kyc, which for me is okay because at least they are transparent and don't hide anything from their future clients. And in this style of casino it has a good impact at least I think.

I can easily trust a casino that right away stated in their TOS that they are doing KYC to protect their platform from becoming a money laundering venue and to verify that the player is not violating their rules when it comes to multi-accounting.
No KYC gambling site is suspect and questionable how would they protect themselves from multi-accounting and from people using their platform for money laundering, if they have other means and methods then not asking KYC is not an option but so far doing KYC is the only available option.
legendary
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March 12, 2023, 06:37:40 PM
#30
It may depend on their license as to whether they are even allowed to display that message. Casinos with a fake license or no license may display that message to try to get users to deposit and then KYC any wd to keep the funds.

True, that's one way to attract new users to their platform, put the magic word, "No KYC", but then when the users won big money and wanted to withdraw that's when some casinos stop them by asking personal documents and go thru KYC. And that's where all the accusations started because of this. So still up to us to be very careful specially new casinos popping up regarding KYC and withdrawals rules.

To me KYC is bullshit honestly. We make our crypto however we make it. We should be able to spend it however we want.

I guess KYC seems to be mandatory right now. Gone are the days wherein you just need a bitcoin address for withdrawal and then you are all set. So it's either we adapt or guess be selective of casinos that we are going to play as not to get trap by this whole KYC when we won.
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March 12, 2023, 06:18:49 PM
#29
A kyc-required casino is a normal thing now, as it operates as a registered business that follow casino regulations and AML laws. The only different is the approach of requiring its users for kyc. Some asks upon registration, some ask when you withdraw any amount, and some ask when you withdraw a large amount say $1k above.
Well, i always use a casino that ask the latter (ask kyc when withdrawing large amount) or not at all.

KYC is a good thing, it will give us security in our part and I do believe that they will not accept it somewhere.
It is not, kyc doesn't mean security by any means, it won't protect you from hack, scam or it wont protect you towards the casino for handling a selective scamming for some. Stop assuming kyc is equal to security or what.
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March 12, 2023, 06:01:43 PM
#28
Have you ever seen a online casino website that displays, No kYC requirements or KYC requirement for **** amount of withdrawal before? And why won't any online casinos do something like this? I believe this is suppose to boost users and players confidence when they are about to try out new gambling platforms for the first time.

I believe this is still affecting online gambling platforms because this is one of the most common issues that online gamblers are still facing.   
It will be my first time hearing this one, all of the casino website I know requires KYC, if not maybe you should stay away from it? It is very unusual that they don't need to kyc their member not unless it is a new website casino and they will start to accept few numbers of people that will not be required. KYC is a good thing, it will give us security in our part and I do believe that they will not accept it somewhere.
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March 12, 2023, 05:53:40 PM
#27
Have you ever seen a online casino website that displays, No kYC requirements or KYC requirement for **** amount of withdrawal before? And why won't any online casinos do something like this? I believe this is suppose to boost users and players confidence when they are about to try out new gambling platforms for the first time.

I believe this is still affecting online gambling platforms because this is one of the most common issues that online gamblers are still facing.   
This is a great idea I must admit, but unfortunately, I don't think any casino would want to make their stand on kyc generally public since it's already in their terms and conditions, but then again, the issue is that most gamblers don't read before really commiting themselves to gambling on any casino, don't be surprised that, after casino makes their stand on kyc public with all the details, some people will still not read it, and will still go on to break rules that govern the casino he or she is playing on..
legendary
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March 12, 2023, 05:52:59 PM
#26
Have you ever seen a online casino website that displays, No kYC requirements or KYC requirement for **** amount of withdrawal before? And why won't any online casinos do something like this? I believe this is suppose to boost users and players confidence when they are about to try out new gambling platforms for the first time.

I believe this is still affecting online gambling platforms because this is one of the most common issues that online gamblers are still facing.   

You are faced with a catch-22 scenario when it comes to know your customer enforcement. Many of the biggest sites will ask for it, or at least the option to require disclosure of it in their terms, because they are based in jurisdictions that require it from financial regulators. These jurisdictions are actually beneficial to the majority of players because it means that the gambling company is less likely to vanish with their money, commit fraud and be subject to court systems that can be used to enforce laws in the favor of the customer. Whereas sites that operate outside of these jurisdictions are slightly more likely to operate in wild-west territory and may even be more vulnerable to external threats because they cannot use legitimate services in properly policed legal systems.
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March 12, 2023, 05:29:38 PM
#25
Have you ever seen a online casino website that displays, No kYC requirements or KYC requirement for **** amount of withdrawal before? And why won't any online casinos do something like this? I believe this is suppose to boost users and players confidence when they are about to try out new gambling platforms for the first time.

I believe this is still affecting online gambling platforms because this is one of the most common issues that online gamblers are still facing.   
Every casino has a KYC as part of their operations policy, you might not get to know this as a new users not until you have won a good large sum of money then boom, KYC requirements will be thrown to you as part of the withdrawal process. But in all of this I literally think that KYC is to the advantage of the gambler as identity theft is well reduced through KYC giving you the gambler a level of satisfaction about the security of your account and any money in it.
It's only gamblers with a dirty intent that abhor KYC thereby wanting to use a fake registration to defraud or flaunt the casino's terms of gambling. The underlying issue here is that as an online gambler KYC should be taken into mind as a thing of necessity that every legitimate online casino may require of you presently or in the future as their reputation and security data depends basically on it.
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March 12, 2023, 05:25:13 PM
#24
Have you ever seen a online casino website that displays, No kYC requirements or KYC requirement for **** amount of withdrawal before? And why won't any online casinos do something like this? I believe this is suppose to boost users and players confidence when they are about to try out new gambling platforms for the first time.

I believe this is still affecting online gambling platforms because this is one of the most common issues that online gamblers are still facing.   

Knowing how the crime syndicates work here in my country, if casinos allowed users to deposit and withdraw a significant amount of money without KYC, let is say between 500$-2000$, they would use this for their own advantage to launder money.

The criminals would offer people to open an account on the casino an launder the minimum amount for them (they would not explicitly say they need to launder money, but rather would offer some excuse or story about why they need to use other's account) in exchange of a small commission, since the economy here is very bad, there would be people willing to do so for 5-10$. The result would be hundreds of thousands of USD laundered.

hero member
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March 12, 2023, 05:23:09 PM
#23
So far, KYC has always been a frightening specter for gamblers in our community. However, most of the leading casinos that we have have KYC features, although each casino has different requirements for their implementation. To be honest, I'm not really aware of the terms and standards related to KYC at every crypto casino we have here. because, I only use 1-2 crypto casinos.

So, I don't mind doing it because the casino I use is a casino that has a reputation that can be trusted. this is a common problem, just like it was originally when exchanges required each user to meet KYC requirements. gradually, KYC will become commonplace for us gamblers. because, every licensed casino requires its customers to meet requirements involving KYC.
Some people argue that KYC is requested because it relates to casino regulations and licenses, previously KYC requests were only optional rules that might be needed at any time and now KYC rules have been increased to make it mandatory for all users to have an active account with the withdrawal feature.

Actually it's not too different from an exchange account, but traders and investors don't complain about KYC problems and they have embraced KYC at the most affordable casinos, so why do you hesitate to complete KYC at a trusted casino?
legendary
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March 12, 2023, 04:50:18 PM
#22
Have you ever seen a online casino website that displays, No kYC requirements or KYC requirement for **** amount of withdrawal before? And why won't any online casinos do something like this? I believe this is suppose to boost users and players confidence when they are about to try out new gambling platforms for the first time.

I believe this is still affecting online gambling platforms because this is one of the most common issues that online gamblers are still facing.   

So far, KYC has always been a frightening specter for gamblers in our community. However, most of the leading casinos that we have have KYC features, although each casino has different requirements for their implementation. To be honest, I'm not really aware of the terms and standards related to KYC at every crypto casino we have here. because, I only use 1-2 crypto casinos.

So, I don't mind doing it because the casino I use is a casino that has a reputation that can be trusted. this is a common problem, just like it was originally when exchanges required each user to meet KYC requirements. gradually, KYC will become commonplace for us gamblers. because, every licensed casino requires its customers to meet requirements involving KYC.
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March 12, 2023, 04:31:23 PM
#21
Have you ever seen a online casino website that displays, No kYC requirements or KYC requirement for **** amount of withdrawal before? And why won't any online casinos do something like this? I believe this is suppose to boost users and players confidence when they are about to try out new gambling platforms for the first time.

I believe this is still affecting online gambling platforms because this is one of the most common issues that online gamblers are still facing.   

KYC, I think, is required due to financial laws. Crypto laws are still not well established in most countries, and especially these problems appear when the deal faces the court, so no proofs of stake belongings, no ways to identify gamblers and/or casino owners... It makes all (not only gambling) online and crypto services create KYC systems. IMHO, however, KYC will poorly protect customers in trials, especially if the trial is gambler vs casino Cheesy
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March 12, 2023, 04:02:22 PM
#20
Have you ever seen a online casino website that displays, No kYC requirements or KYC requirement for **** amount of withdrawal before? And why won't any online casinos do something like this? I believe this is suppose to boost users and players confidence when they are about to try out new gambling platforms for the first time.

I believe this is still affecting online gambling platforms because this is one of the most common issues that online gamblers are still facing.   
No licensed casino can make the claim they will never ask for KYC because in the terms of their license it is specified they have to comply with the law and do it, and even if at the beginning they may not like to do this if the casino becomes successful the owners are not going to sacrifice the riches they are getting just to protect one of their users, however what would be interesting is for casinos to tell us exactly at what point KYC will be asked from us, that way we will know for sure they are not just inventing excuses to not pay us what we are owed.
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March 12, 2023, 03:56:14 PM
#19
Have you ever seen a online casino website that displays, No kYC requirements or KYC requirement for **** amount of withdrawal before? And why won't any online casinos do something like this? I believe this is suppose to boost users and players confidence when they are about to try out new gambling platforms for the first time.

I believe this is still affecting online gambling platforms because this is one of the most common issues that online gamblers are still facing.   
op you have been posting and asking creating a casino company with your friends, how is the project? But the way, from conceptual framework of your topic, I will say, nobody is afraid of KYC but the way the casino companies are doing is making people to be scared to use their sites. They only asked when you win a bet and want to withdraw, and if the KYC process is not successful they would block your account. And that is bad. Because the gambler was hoping to win his bet and now the casino has restricted him of redeeming his win from bets.
legendary
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March 12, 2023, 03:55:30 PM
#18
Have you ever seen a online casino website that displays, No kYC requirements or KYC requirement for **** amount of withdrawal before? And why won't any online casinos do something like this? I believe this is suppose to boost users and players confidence when they are about to try out new gambling platforms for the first time.

I believe this is still affecting online gambling platforms because this is one of the most common issues that online gamblers are still facing.   

Its all just a marketing trick.

In reality, before they give you your winnings, they are obligated by law to make sure that no money-laundering/terrorism sanction laws are broken. They NEED your KYC. This can be avoided for smaller amounts of money withdrawals but they can ask you for KYC for any amount.

In fact, if you read the terms and conditions of these "KYC-free platforms" you will read exactly this truth: There are no KYC-Free platforms (Which are not scams).

Of course if you are gambling with peanuts, it is not worth their time to scan your identity. The law permits this. And its more profitable for the casino to ignore you (time = money).
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March 12, 2023, 03:01:59 PM
#17
I remember one day I tried to play at livecasino, and although I was a new player on the platform I deposited 30$ and when I played its slot games I only had 4$ left in my balance and I said to myself that I don't seem to have any luck in playing at that time, and unexpectedly I suddenly got hit and the 4$ I had left became 116$ so I immediately decided to withdraw around 80$. At first I thought maybe there is a kyc needed to submit, but after 2 hours it was confirmed that the winnings I withdrew from the livecasino were transferred, meaning the kyc did not search for me because they saw that I did not violate their policy and rules, although there was no problem. to me if I provide kyc on their website.
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March 12, 2023, 02:49:24 PM
#16
Have you ever seen a online casino website that displays, No kYC requirements or KYC requirement for **** amount of withdrawal before? And why won't any online casinos do something like this? I believe this is suppose to boost users and players confidence when they are about to try out new gambling platforms for the first time.

I believe this is still affecting online gambling platforms because this is one of the most common issues that online gamblers are still facing.   
The purpose of gambling with cryptocurrency is to remain anonymous. But when KYC is made mandatory there is nothing to do. However, many gambling sites do not make KYC mandatory. If any suspicious behavior persists, KYC becomes mandatory. Moreover, it is mandatory for all casino license holders to do so otherwise they may face legal complications. A lot of gambling sites are being added to the crypto casino platform these days so a gambler will find a platform to suit their needs. However, it is very useful to check out the best platforms before gambling.
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March 12, 2023, 02:38:57 PM
#15
I think it comes back to reputation because regardless of anything nowadays reputation is very easy to tarnish especially in KYC issues.
The condition is that if you want to withdraw and always ask for it I think the risk of being accused of fraud is definitely possible so this could be a problem for them and rather than that happening then indeed they make a license or rule for their policy.

But basically I personally still don't expect anything like that because this will only make me leave the site even though it might not be a loss for them but when it comes to KYC in gambling sites I will go from there.
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March 12, 2023, 02:36:26 PM
#14
They will be accused of lying when they actually are asking KYC even when you just withdraw $****.  Casino's reputation will be at risk, you know how reputation can be tainted easily nowadays.

Almost all casinos today ask for KYC. If not they will ask for Phone authentication. I did try withdrawing just $70 worth of TRX from one casino recently and it's allowing me to do it but I have to confirm and enable my phone authentication which I'm also not willing since this is just a casino.


If you are not willing to comply with their requirements, it means, you are letting go of your funds also.
Most are asking KYC owed to their gambling license. However, some are still not requiring it if your deposit or withdrawal amount doesn't reach their max allowable limit.
I believe, if the casino has legit license, expect that they will ask KYC at any point. So you need to prepare for this situation.
However, if the casino has no license but requiring KYC, doubt their motive. High likely that they are scamming their users.
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