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Topic: The Fed is talking about letting the inflation rate rise above its 2% target. - page 2. (Read 317 times)

legendary
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At this point in time, what strategy does the feds have up on their sleeve that they haven't employed yet? Pretty sure they have tried every trick in the book to save an ailing economy, and have failed miserably within the last few years as shown by the current market trends. This time, those that suggested this play probably thought, "why not up the target inflation rate slip past 2%? What could possibly go wrong, right?"

I'm even skeptic as to whether the figures they are releasing to the public are even real.

Can it work? Sure, like myself driving to Pikes Peak top drifting with a 800 hp car: I can make to the top, but it's an high risk at every turn, and only a brief moment of misjudgement can have disastrous consequences.
Don't worry, bitcoin fixes that.

At least for them they have safety nets and other things that could hide their failure on handling things, but I like the reference.
legendary
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Everyone knows real inflation has been vastly higher for a long, long time. I have no idea why they bother claiming any figure at all. It doesn't bear any relation to the real world where it's doing real damage.
legendary
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The point is the FED is probably going to change their inflation targeting from 2% (that's a level where their miserably failed, by the way) to an "average of 2%.
This means they will be happy with inflation overshooting 2% for prolonged periods of time, in order to rais the "average" inflation above 2%. This will provide even more space for bonds and stocks to surge, cancelling this "inflation scare" as temporary.
At the same time, higher inflation will help deflate the gargantuan amount of money we are putting on the market, i.e. debt piling up.

Can it work? Sure, like myself driving to Pikes Peak top drifting with a 800 hp car: I can make to the top, but it's an high risk at every turn, and only a brief moment of misjudgement can have disastrous consequences.
Don't worry, bitcoin fixes that.
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Sure it will rise above 2% target with this amount of fresh printed money
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I'm afraid they will not (or never) tighten the monetary policy even in the post-coronavirus era since belt-tightening is not something easy, especially if we deal with politics where the administration can get bad press from doing such activity. That said, everything will be fine if the next administration has the balls to raise interest rates, etc., or it will get spiraled out of control.
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https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2020-07-17/the-fed-is-setting-the-stage-for-a-major-policy-change


"Having learned a hard lesson in the last recovery — don’t tighten monetary policy too early"

"In practice, that means the Fed will not just emphasize actual inflation over forecasted inflation, but will also attempt to push the inflate rate above its 2% target. "

basically the article says the fed has some missed time to make up for since we had a period of lower than 2% inflation, well need say for example 3% inflation to make up for that lost infation.

money printer go brrrrrrrrrrrrr

Until and unless there is actually a straight statement from the Fed we cannot decide what the Government is planning and therefore the most we can do is to consider looking at the market from different perspectives , right now what am able to see is that this article does not prove that this is what they are going for , at the same time if Inflation rises , it would only benefit the large industries , the businesses , banks , the people will be unfortunately in a big problem which might even risk management of the country as a whole.

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Why worry about slightly overshooting 2% on the upside if it could mitigate the risk of cutting the recovery short?


I do believe that it could affect the population below the Poverty line , which are already being affected due to COVID-19 , since they are not even registered at the same time healthcare and such is just a dream for most.

Therefore I do believe that even 1-2% excess inflation is dangerous , not for us but for the people who are going to be affected by it drastically.

At the same time , it is natural to worry about inflation with time , since most of the times it's going to increase with time but , if the feds are trying to increase it even to a small extent I do think they should think twice about their decision or actions.

I would like to end it with a quote from the author where he very nicely explained the problems in few lines:

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Inflation is and has been a highly debated phenomenon in economics. ... Many economists, businessmen, and politicians maintain that moderate inflation levels are needed to drive consumption, assuming that higher levels of spending are crucial for economic growth.


Plus the reason I did use the word *Government* instead of the Fed is because they are integrated very strongly with each other and most of the times their actions do benefit both parties , its like a whole lot of things that we don't know about .
legendary
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basically the article says the fed has some missed time to make up for since we had a period of lower than 2% inflation, well need say for example 3% inflation to make up for that lost infation.

money printer go brrrrrrrrrrrrr

From their Keynesian standpoint, it makes perfect sense. These deflationary periods obviously kick inflation well below 2%. Why worry about slightly overshooting 2% on the upside if it could mitigate the risk of cutting the recovery short?

As far as money printing goes, I'm not sure it matters much. If the economy doesn't recover to 2% inflation (or takes longer to do so than expected) they will keep running their infinite QE program anyway. Money printing is just the norm now. It's not based on the actual money supply, it's based on the state of the markets.
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November is a very short time for Trump, but since Trump was tapped as President, Trump has been doing quantitive tightening with the strategy to pull the dollar outside America, so the value and interest rate of the dollar would rise, because people and countries need a lot of dollars, and the dollar will dry up in markets outside America.

This strong dollar makes the price of goods that America imports cheap. Or we can see from the side of other countries, which depend on imports but have a strong national currency, so the raw materials for production will decrease. If America is too strong to attract its dollars, America will not lose, even though the protection will increase the price of imported goods from America, but the loss will be in the exporting country because we pay extra to America. For America, because the dollar has increased in value, the purchasing power of the American people remains and inflation is not very pronounced. If the exported goods are not absorbed by the United States or the exporting country benefits from decreasing due to the tariff war, then the exporting country will also suffer losses.
legendary
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This is probably not just making up for those times when the inflation was below 2%. This basis of this significant step appears to be oversimplified, seems to convey to the public that everything's pretty much under control and they are just shifting an approach or theory in the middle of a crisis, which in itself may be construed as somehow unsettling.

It makes me ask, is it really "letting the inflation rate rise above its 2% target?" Or is it that the inflation rate cannot be easily contained within that certain limit during this time of pandemic and it will probably shoot beyond that despite the efforts?
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Governments like inflation, because it is good for them.

They do the most they can to generate more inflation: negative interest rates, money injection, and so on.

Governments make a lot of money from inflation, due to inflation tax.

For example, you pay capital gain tax over inflation. Your asset is 3% more valuable one year later? You will pay taxes over that 3%, even if only 1% is real valuation and 2% is just inflation.

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https://www.quora.com/What-is-meant-by-inflation-tax-and-inflation-premium
Kaushal Salunkhe-Patole
Answered November 4, 2017
Inflation tax is a term which refers to the financial loss of value suffered by holders of cash and (if inflation is unexpected) fixed-rate bonds, as well those on fixed income (not indexed to inflation), due to the effects of inflation; or capital gains tax resulting from inflation.

Bitcoin is our way out of inflation taxes.
legendary
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I'm not exactly sure what the hell the article is saying, since it sounds like a bunch of economist gobbledygook to me.  What it doesn't sound like is that the Fed has any concrete plan to raise interest rates, and if they alluded to doing this in the article I'm pretty sure it would spook the market big time.  Investors/traders/speculators have been used to cheap money for so long that they're going to have to be weaned off of it slowly, like a methadone taper for a heroin addict.

I've said it a few times in recent posts: if interest rates get raised, watch out.  That will mean less margin trading (among many other things), which will have a negative effect on stock prices--and probably gold, silver, and bitcoin as well.  Unfortunately the Fed is going to have to raise rates eventually, but whether we're expecting it or not it's still going to come as quite a shock regardless.

And yeah, OP, that money printing press just continues to work overtime with no signs of a break in the action anywhere to be seen.

Yep lots of bills big stacks of it.

It will be really interesting to see how much they pass the 2% level by.
legendary
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I'm not exactly sure what the hell the article is saying, since it sounds like a bunch of economist gobbledygook to me.  What it doesn't sound like is that the Fed has any concrete plan to raise interest rates, and if they alluded to doing this in the article I'm pretty sure it would spook the market big time.  Investors/traders/speculators have been used to cheap money for so long that they're going to have to be weaned off of it slowly, like a methadone taper for a heroin addict.

I've said it a few times in recent posts: if interest rates get raised, watch out.  That will mean less margin trading (among many other things), which will have a negative effect on stock prices--and probably gold, silver, and bitcoin as well.  Unfortunately the Fed is going to have to raise rates eventually, but whether we're expecting it or not it's still going to come as quite a shock regardless.

And yeah, OP, that money printing press just continues to work overtime with no signs of a break in the action anywhere to be seen.
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https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2020-07-17/the-fed-is-setting-the-stage-for-a-major-policy-change


"Having learned a hard lesson in the last recovery — don’t tighten monetary policy too early"

"In practice, that means the Fed will not just emphasize actual inflation over forecasted inflation, but will also attempt to push the inflate rate above its 2% target. "

basically the article says the fed has some missed time to make up for since we had a period of lower than 2% inflation, well need say for example 3% inflation to make up for that lost infation.

money printer go brrrrrrrrrrrrr
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