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Topic: The First Political Zone to Officially Recognize Cryptocoins - page 5. (Read 15151 times)

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OP can't be serious if he says he was talking at the conference but the identity of his "political zone" is still a mystery.


I'm pretty sure someone said it's Nicaragua
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OP can't be serious if he says he was talking at the conference but the identity of his "political zone" is still a mystery.
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Let's take these one at a time...

>http://chiefacoins.com/Database/Micro-Nations/Freedonia.htm

"Governmentally, they've gone through a few permutations. By a 1992 resolution, they were “a sort of oligarchy.” That system was changed to a presidential republic in 1996, and to a constitutional monarchy in 1997. The constitution was revised in 2000. As of April 1998, their name was modified to reflect their metamorphosis from a “Republic” to a “Principality”... The Head of State is Prince John I (John Alexander Kyle), the prime minister is Dustin Gawrylow."

They clearly had no idea what they were doing. That history shows an endorsement of existing and historical governmental structures, not poly-centric law at all.

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Minerva

"Morris C. Davis was elected as Provisional President of the Republic of Minerva."

The sort of society I envision dispenses with politicians entirely. So any time you see a politician, it's not what I was suggesting. Politicians have the power to force policy of citizen-subjects. However, individualist-law means that each person would control their own legal circumstances--constitution a rejection of the idea that anyone can force laws on anyone else.

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Atlantis

"The operation set out to do this by launching a ferro-cement boat into the Hudson River in December 1971 which was piloted into an area near the Bahamas. After reaching its destination it eventually sank in a hurricane...

"Stiefel endowed it with a limited government that does not violate the non-aggression principle, thereby making Atlantis acceptable to both limited-government libertarians and anarcho-libertarians."

Basically they never got as far as actually implementing a society.

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freetown_Christiania

"but since the rules require a consensus they cannot be removed unless everybody agrees."

Consensus, ie: voting, ie: giving the group power to force laws on individuals. That's not what I'm proposing either. That is a mere extension of the existing political norm of democracy. It is a continuation, rather than a rejection, of the idea that others should control an individual's legal circumstances.

 
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Well, someone had to have seen the discussion at the conference.

"World's First Cryptocurrency-based Political Zone" talk (Edan Yago)


That's IT....

Someone needs to tell me when the next conference is... I was part of the promotions for the 4/20 rally in Denver and we had over 100,000 people there at once.

I am DEFINTELY advertising the next one, but I need at least 3-6 months heads up.

I'm not saying I could get 100,000 people. Just defintely more than pictured.
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Well, someone had to have seen the discussion at the conference.

"World's First Cryptocurrency-based Political Zone" talk (Edan Yago)


That's IT....

Someone needs to tell me when the next conference is... I was part of the promotions for the 4/20 rally in Denver and we had over 100,000 people there at once.

I am DEFINTELY advertising the next one, but I need at least 3-6 months heads up.
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Well, someone had to have seen the discussion at the conference.

"World's First Cryptocurrency-based Political Zone" talk (Edan Yago)

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There's a ship, which is Blueseed, and then there are these guys, who are on land. I went to the Blueseed presentation, but was too busy to attend this one. I heard it was a hit, though.

So, OP, are you the Nicaragua guys???
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Wait. Do they do clothing on your oil platform, OP? Like seaweed bandanas and whaleskin jackets?

Haha, gold!  Wink

No, dummy, gold is horrible for armor purposes. Bullets go right through that crap.

Use Bitcoins instead, they are proven to stop bullets!*



No, see, what we'll have to do is do an A-Team and clad the whole thing in steel plating,

Actually if we get rid of the wholes in the roof we might catapult launch some F14s from there too.

No worries, I've flown those too and I only crash land about 2 out of 3 times.



1. I would stay clear of equipping the ship with anything like F14s, or the UN is just going to get scared and call you a rouge pirate nation.

2. Most pirates are bands of 8 or less, with 1 or less people carrying a heavy weapon. Most of the time they have machetes, ropes and small explosives. So you don't need that shit any ways. I would suggest a running everything like a cruise ship where everyone trades shifts, unless they have enough money to just live there. Then have 1 armory room, and maybe give whoever is on staff tazers and guns with rubber bullets.
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Just find a part of the world that has real problems, and they won't care what you do with your electronic funny money. I'm thinking Somalia, Kenya (inspired by Larry Page talk), or Pakistan. Another possibility that people have tried is to cozy up with an autocrat. Problem there is you have to always be the highest bidder. So I would tend to favor lawless as opposed to laws administered by corruptible regime.

Nigeria, Kameroon and Samalia.
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Use Bitcoins instead, they are proven to stop bullets!*


*Once you print them onto Kevlar...

I think you just discovered a viable currency... With all the people preparing for economic collapse, and the apocalypse and stuff like that. I really think Kevlar or Carbon Fiber is something that could be traded, and used. Like the Bottle Caps of the Wasteland, but with actual purpose.

The value of the coin is however much you value one square inch of your body, or family, or house. And each coin is just a square inch patch of carbon fiber.
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He's a seasteader. That's why he's talking about zones and regions instead of land. Have fun fighting off pirates.

Fighting pirates?!  With the prospects of life in modern society, this is probably one of the most fun I can think of.

Actually, that would be one of the most noble things you could do in modern society... And if you get really good at fighting Pirates you could start eliminating torturers and other "Hostis humani generis". Like an actual crusade for justice instead of a crusade to spread white blood and old faith.
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I am EXTREMELY interested in the ideas presented in this thread. Please read a little about my political philosophy/plans. I would love to become involved.
http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=collin_county
http://homegrownsouth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=133
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Well, the conference has ended now, so I want to ask what became of Yago's talk? Did it happen? What did he say?
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I guess you never heard of berkshire bucks

Berkshire Bucks are an alternative currency that was launched in 2006 in Western Massachussets.  First created by the non-profit the E.F. Schumacher Society, Berkshires continue to grow in populatirty.  To date 2.7 million have been circulated and over four hundred business accept them.

Berkshire Bucks make sense as they encourage people to spend their money locally and also give the consumer a five percent discount.  Thus, when you go to bank to exchange cash for Berkshires you recieve 105 Berkshire for every 100 dollars of normal currency. 

I've never heard of those. Keeps purchases locally though, while having 5% inflation over the dollar.

Yeah its a system that works out pretty well, I think they have a lot of farming, so restaurants buy fresh local tomatoes, etc.
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I guess you never heard of berkshire bucks

Berkshire Bucks are an alternative currency that was launched in 2006 in Western Massachussets.  First created by the non-profit the E.F. Schumacher Society, Berkshires continue to grow in populatirty.  To date 2.7 million have been circulated and over four hundred business accept them.

Berkshire Bucks make sense as they encourage people to spend their money locally and also give the consumer a five percent discount.  Thus, when you go to bank to exchange cash for Berkshires you recieve 105 Berkshire for every 100 dollars of normal currency. 

I've never heard of those. Keeps purchases locally though, while having 5% inflation over the dollar.
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What land are you on?

All the land taken in history is either by buying the land, through force or political systems.

Wars are fought over land, I find it hard to believe you have acquired sovereign territory.

If you do not have sovereign territory then your law is ultimately dictated by the people that do have authority over the land.

The only way you have acquired sovereign territory for free with no force is probably the land being questionable, such as a offshore platform or a small island off the coast of the north pole....

EDIT: Sorry if I sound negative its just an extraordinary claim that you have created essentially a new country.

I guess you never heard of berkshire bucks

Berkshire Bucks are an alternative currency that was launched in 2006 in Western Massachussets.  First created by the non-profit the E.F. Schumacher Society, Berkshires continue to grow in populatirty.  To date 2.7 million have been circulated and over four hundred business accept them.

Berkshire Bucks make sense as they encourage people to spend their money locally and also give the consumer a five percent discount.  Thus, when you go to bank to exchange cash for Berkshires you recieve 105 Berkshire for every 100 dollars of normal currency. 
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I love how OP doesn't continue to respond to this discussion. I'm interested in seeing if this will be another Sealand thing, or just a massive boat in the middle of some ocean. If this indeed is true, I can't wait for CNBC and Fox Business to cover it.
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Space zing from outer space zings all the way to outer space. And back.

(But props to OP for manning up to it, I was expecting a page 4 full of Mabsark.)
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"The region’s laws are specifically being designed to have low regulatory barriers and provide residents with the world’s highest degree of freedoms."

Instead of trying to impose "the right laws" from the top down why not be the first society to try poly-centric market based law.
I endorse this approach, and have been studying and building a system I hope to implement on a seastead in the near future. Can't wait. It's such an improvement. Individualism applied to law, agreement-based law and individual sovereignty. It's never been tried and few have even theorized about it in more than general terms.

Oh it's been tried all right. Several times in fact. It always ends in blood, tears and shit sticking to the wall.

Please provide us with some more detail. Specifically where and when are you talking about. You said several times so please be sure to site at least 3 examples.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freetown_Christiania
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Atlantis
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Minerva
http://chiefacoins.com/Database/Micro-Nations/Freedonia.htm

ooohhh im sorry i misunderstood you and it was my fault. yes this is a valid criticism.
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