Topic: The Forum is Dying - page 2. (Read 3014 times)

forum activity is related to cryptocurencies popularity/power..

What is the point of 'newbie jail' here? Are you making some sort of ironic sentence? IMHO theymos did right thing.

   -MZ

This couldn't have anything to do with the fact that Theymos removed the newbie jail now could it? Nah.

Hopefully people are realizing that coming here and asking "What computer buttons do I press to get rich?" is a useless exercise. If we are lucky the price will creep up slowly enough to stay out of the news. 

People are afraid to keep money on exchanges after all the hacks and thefts. This means there's less open orders and a dump can move the price deeper, but I wouldn't worry about it too much. The coins are still being held, but instead of making fake walls they rest safely in their owners' wallets.
It's good to hear you're buying, maybe you're not so bearish after all

It is not that I am bearish or bullish, my problem is the liquidity issue and price variance this currency has now. No longer can someone sell 10,000 BTC at once and only move the currency 1% or whatever. Now if someone were to try to sell that much it would instantly drop all 13,000,000 or however many bitcoin are around now down at least 10%. I can't be in something where less then 1% of the total population being sold causes at least a 10% drop in the overall value of the entire population.

The liquidity isn't there anymore and neither is the stability. Although I will say for the last week this has been the most stable bitcoin has been in a long time. If there was higher volume instead of much much lower then usual volume then I'd actually consider buying a short-term call option in this situation.

Anyways, just my thoughts on bitcoin. I do need to make a purchase though so right now even with my bearish attitude as you say I am trying to acquire ~$650 of the currency (at whatever current market price is whether it be $1 or $1000).

Sounds about right could call this a tranquil period in the forum where a declining Bitcoin price and a ton of altcoin chatter has shifted the chat a bit, the influx of new users and their tech levels is also dropping a bit due to mainstream effects but it's a good thing overall.


True enough but not often do we see it in meta

The only thing more predicted than the death of this forum has been the death of bitcoin itself.

This has to be thread #99 on this subject I know of since 2010 in these forums.


~BCX~

This nicely shows your bearish attitude. You don't hold bitcoin and immediately get rid of the ones you come upon. If you sold all you had for $300 you missed about 12 months of higher prices. No wonder you became bitter. There's a lot of people like you in here, especially in the speculation subforum. Maybe they can comfort you 

There are increasing number of scams with person to person trades, so users may choose exchange as a better option


well since there are such volatile moments lately, people tend to change their opinions with change of the wind blowing, thus creating spam mess
they get ignored or their posts deleted anyways, mods are doing a nice job with that


yup, im also against that, because in the end u dont know with who you are talking to in the end, but as forum rules seam to allow it, theres nothing much that can be done.


Bitcoin isnt rallying anymore at this time, and this is bitcoin forum, so many users have a loss, or small profit on their tradings..


i dont thing they do if u count in bitcoins, but if u count in fiat value, they probably do. But markets tend to change, and it will pass..
as per https://blockchain.info/charts/n-transactions , number of transactions is rising, so you could interpret that as a very good thing.

Dont know what to say enymore, there are rainy days everywhere, why not here also? Its not like it was promised to be milk and honey all the time..

cheers

A big bank failing in Europe or the States, big riots, the price of BTC at 1000$ and we will have many new users and momentum.

I don't think the forum is dying, but rather your love for Bitcoin dying. The forum had less users, less active in 2011 and that was some of the best discussion we've had. Of course this is  to be expected as there is only a limited amount to speak about. To be quite honest at this moment in time I would rather a close knitted set of individuals. I don't think many people are panicking about the price, I haven't checked the price directly for many many months.

I don't know what you mean by the 'mood'. It depends what you read, something recently which I consider pretty positive is Elwar getting paid in Bitcoin, he doesn't seem to care about the relation with USD or any other fiat currency. Now if that isn't positive then I don't know what is. If only that was available outside of the US I'd be set.

The currency exchange section is going to drop off more when there are easier ways to purchase and sell Bitcoin. Spammers get dealt with if you report them, if there aren't any mods on it only takes a few hours at most for one to pop on. There's going to be scammers where ever you go, there's no stopping that.

You do realize that this is one of the bigger forums out there? We don't need it to have the same number of users as Facebook you know.

I guess that I was far from clear....


That's obvious. Just imho it's rather normal/good to have pretty "silent" threads about exchanges: not too many still come out and the big ones don't really have good news to share.
I use exchanges as well and I find them OK. But just seeing their threads with "we are still here" would be .. odd.
So imho silence there is fine.


True. But a Hero member may be more careful to not get negative trust, while there are a lot of brand new accounts with 1-2 posts, only for a ponzi or a ref link to a faucet....
These are in the scam or spam area which can easily reduced.


I don't want to forbid that for newbies. I want only to hide it by default, until they will get "old enough" to find the checkbox to uncheck.
But I just realized that people also come here without an account and then it will actually be visible....so my idea is actually not really useful 


I wish I were around those days...
However, I think the "noisier" ones are the ones losing, and that makes the forum look somehow "depressed".


*sigh* you are right with both. I overlooked all the implications.


By "daytrader FUD" I wanted to say that there only (weak) attempts (by spreading "news", usually FUD) made by some traders to affect the market in a way to make (more) profit.

There was another place where I used to hang around about one year ago. The FUD was always deleted by the mods promptly. (It didn't help the price of that coin, but that's a different story.) At least the place was "cleaner"... 

No I don't think this forum is dying (but this is only my personal opinion). However if you think that it is dying, what is the "real & unique" problem which causes this thing will happen? I think the scammers and spammers.

Everything can be hacked but the companies are distinguished on 'how they react to it and how they answer people'. Most of the people are using exchanges to trade.


Not only new users, even Hero Members scam. It simple, "Scammers scam".


New accounts are created to announce account sale for making their real account a secret. So blocking newbies from posting there is probably a bad idea.


Many of them even bought at $0.1, maybe far lesser than it. I don't think it's a bad thing which affect users.


There are many things which looks fine as solution but most of them won't fit in 'solutions'.


Newbie jail is bad idea. There people who join this forum for asking doubt about technical things, to ask about companies, to announce/offer their service etc... The post and PM limitation currently is some sort of newbie jail and is working fine except for PMs - shouldn't allow newbies to send a PM without posting. A 20-30 seconds forced class about forum rules is probably better idea than newbie jail.


Bad and very hard idea. If you start banning, you will have to start banning cloud mining etc... It would be very hard for mods to investigate on every new cloud mining.


Like you said it isn't simple but I didn't understand fully about your statement "they are only simple daytrader FUD".

   -MZ

lol that's a classic quote, guess you can't please everyone. It's still a very active forum regardless of the influx of butt-coiners infesting the speculation board.

My feeling:
* There are a few established currency exchanges that don't need much to do, all goes OK and their activity usually mean bad things: errors, hacks, or just maintenance. So silence is good and reassuring there.
* Yes, too many posts are scams or spam. Some sort of newbie jail could help.
* Accounts selling is fine - the mods explanation makes sense not to ban it - still, I agree, too many posts are in that direction. Maybe that should go to a contained area, which maybe is by default set on ignore for new users?
* The overall mood can't be good while some bought at 5-900$ and now it's.. less than 250$

3 simple solutions would be:
- newbie jail
- ban ponzis
- ban/moderate (OK, this is not simple) "sell now" "buy now" "dump is coming" threads - they are only simple daytrader FUD.

I think the forum is following the graph of the Bitcoin sentiment.
I know my site did this also: The traffic spiked when Bitcoin's value spiked...and is currently kinda boring, relatively.

There is changes but the number of messages and the acution results for advertising are still strong.