The main reason is that the market continues to fall, resulting in when a new project enters the market, the price will decrease at least 10x less than the ICO price. As a result, the hunters should get 100 USD but in reality only 10 USD.
A coin/token or whatever, is only as good as the community that owns it. That also includes bounty hunters. The price also decreases because people dump their coins well below ICO price on unofficial exchanges so when a coin is officially listed it has already gone through a process of dumping and has a very low value. That creates a chain reaction of even more dumping because people become afraid that they will end up holding bags of nothing. 
Topic: The forum is slowly changing (Read 779 times)
Exactly true! Bitcoin would have not reached its all time high nearly $20000 in 2017 if bitcointalk.org has not been there for years, and has not been survived as well as grown solidly thorough so many crashes and challenges of crypto market. There are so many changes made in the forum within last 12 months or longer a bit. For example, we have some dramatical changes, including the merit system, the Default Trust Changes, and more actively nuking, banning accounts from both the forum's staffs, and reports from forum users. Together, we all contributed our hands to change the forum gradually recent months.
Despite of those challenges Bitcointalk.org was able to survive over the years and we all know that there's a lot of things to improve but it can't happen easily. The post quality of this site are slowly getting better, and only those serious users will receive the reward of their hard work. Everyone can create their account on this forum and make some mess, its hard to control i believe but that won't last.
All you say basically points to the problem of bounty and yes, I agree with what you say.
The main reason is that the market continues to fall, resulting in when a new project enters the market, the price will decrease at least 10x less than the ICO price. As a result, the hunters should get 100 USD but in reality only 10 USD.
This small and disappointing income has resulted in many people looking for ways to get real 100 USD so that we can see many abusers.
Another change is that some campaigns do not allow newbies to participate. Newbie is labeled as a spammer, scammer, and low quality (I can understand why this rule was applied though)
The main reason is that the market continues to fall, resulting in when a new project enters the market, the price will decrease at least 10x less than the ICO price. As a result, the hunters should get 100 USD but in reality only 10 USD.
This small and disappointing income has resulted in many people looking for ways to get real 100 USD so that we can see many abusers.
Another change is that some campaigns do not allow newbies to participate. Newbie is labeled as a spammer, scammer, and low quality (I can understand why this rule was applied though)
Despite of those challenges Bitcointalk.org was able to survive over the years and we all know that there's a lot of things to improve but it can't happen easily. The post quality of this site are slowly getting better, and only those serious users will receive the reward of their hard work. Everyone can create their account on this forum and make some mess, its hard to control i believe but that won't last.
Bitcoin and bitcoitalk.org has strong relationships, they grown together over the past ten years (more than ten years). I saw interesting thing that sometimes when bitcoin crashed, there are lots of accusation that bitcoin is a fraud, bitcoin is dead, but you know what, I have not seen or heard anyone wrote that bitcointalk.org is a fraud. I have not seen such accusation. Bitointalk.org, in reality, has a very important position in the history of bitcoin, no one can deny the importance of the forum on bitcoin. 
Just look at the people replying with signature campaigns. They will always increase the word count of the post with crap and repeat what other people have said. The post quality on this site is shit
Posting with a signature is being paid to post.
You can't find a successful PtP forum anywhere...
One of the changes I have noticed is the less traffic here. As soon as the market went crashing in 2018 and Bitcoin paying campaigns got affected and dried up, a lot of forum members went on the sidelines and occasionally visit here now.
Yep. This makes Bitcointalk pretty much almost "seasonal". I really expect traffic to go back to how it was before, or even higher, as bitcoin's price goes back up. Back in late 2017, every time I visit the Bitcoin Discussion forum, there are always new topics being made. Again, the Merit system has also helped to curtail account farming. I should think we have less of shit posting now than a few years ago.
In this case I think it's a good thing even if traffic got lower. Quality over quantity all day.God is watching...
I'm not God but I'm watching
Kidding aside, I totally agree with your point. And this is the sole reason why I gave you a merit (just in case). We can't actually expect any better as this is how the society at large works as people will always gather in clans protecting themselves by attacking or ignoring anyone not belonging. On the other hand, the Merit system is definitely the lesser of the two evils, the other evil (the greater one) is the whole trust system
One of the changes I have noticed is the less traffic here. As soon as the market went crashing in 2018 and Bitcoin paying campaigns got affected and dried up, a lot of forum members went on the sidelines and occasionally visit here now.
Yep. This makes Bitcointalk pretty much almost "seasonal". I really expect traffic to go back to how it was before, or even higher, as bitcoin's price goes back up. Back in late 2017, every time I visit the Bitcoin Discussion forum, there are always new topics being made. God is watching...
Just look at the people replying with signature campaigns. They will always increase the word count of the post with crap and repeat what other people have said. The post quality on this site is shit
Posting with a signature is being paid to post.
You can't find a successful PtP forum anywhere...
Just look at the people replying with signature campaigns. They will always increase the word count of the post with crap and repeat what other people have said. The post quality on this site is shit
This post would have suited better if it would have been posted an year ago. All of the spams, scams, shit and burst posting occurred was more a year ago when compared to this year.
Since then a lot has changed for the better. Scams have reduced since the market was bearish. Spams have reduced since very less projects had been launched throughout the year.
Shit and burst posting has reduced due to the merit system. Overall quality of the forum has increased in the last few months in my opinion.
Since then a lot has changed for the better. Scams have reduced since the market was bearish. Spams have reduced since very less projects had been launched throughout the year.
Shit and burst posting has reduced due to the merit system. Overall quality of the forum has increased in the last few months in my opinion.
One of the changes I have noticed is the less traffic here. As soon as the market went crashing in 2018 and Bitcoin paying campaigns got affected and dried up, a lot of forum members went on the sidelines and occasionally visit here now.
Yep. This makes Bitcointalk pretty much almost "seasonal". I really expect traffic to go back to how it was before, or even higher, as bitcoin's price goes back up. Back in late 2017, every time I visit the Bitcoin Discussion forum, there are always new topics being made. Again, the Merit system has also helped to curtail account farming. I should think we have less of shit posting now than a few years ago.
In this case I think it's a good thing even if traffic got lower. Quality over quantity all day.
One of the changes I have noticed is the less traffic here. As soon as the market went crashing in 2018 and Bitcoin paying campaigns got affected and dried up, a lot of forum members went on the sidelines and occasionally visit here now. Again, the Merit system has also helped to curtail account farming. I should think we have less of shit posting now than a few years ago.
I'm just wondering if reporting has any effect in this situation (that you see less shitposts in the bitcoin section). And also, if there's any effect of the the well advertised reporting badge that will come in the near future sometime 
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I think that reporting doesn't have big impact. It's just a fight with consequences, not the reasons of spam. I think that fight with plagiarism have much bigger influence. But in general, main reasons why we see forum slowly improving is long bear market and merit system.
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I think that reporting doesn't have big impact. It's just a fight with consequences, not the reasons of spam. I think that fight with plagiarism have much bigger influence. But in general, main reasons why we see forum slowly improving is long bear market and merit system.
The saddest change for me is a reduction in the activities of some of the quality long term members.
I think it's reality of every forum, online community - old members leaving it due to personal reasons - family, kids, job and lack of time in general. But at the same time we see quite many new quality members joined forum in recent years. Alt coins seem to be sorting themselves out as well. I read that 98% of the alt are fraudulent rubbish, but that leaves 2% that we should be analysing, and using. It would be good to discuss these, as I don't know too much about them.
The scams and the most shitty ones are definitely dying out slowly but surely, but yea, some are still up and even on the top 15 unfortunately(I'm looking at you, Tron). They're still getting so much money from people in the cryptocurrency space for some reason. I actually thought that these would die out in the bear market. I was definitely underestimating the ignorance of a lot of people
These scams are set to die out eventually
It is just the new ones which are more pervasive, persuasive and highly seductive (as anything based on greed). On the other hand, it is the same as in any other field or domain, so we are moving down fast to the level playing ground with other industries, if I may say so
Anyway, if history teaches us anything, the dotcom era with its abundance of scams and shams ended at a certain point and never came back. In this way, it is a plausible assumption to expect things to level out eventually when the hype subsides and the dust settles (we are well on the way there)
THE GREAT FALL OF MARKET
It all started with this one. Eveyone of us becomes devastated when the market consecutively drops from $14K to $4K in just few months. Some of us stay calm but many panicked and dont know what to do. The market become not that profitable so cryptopeople should find a way to still earn and that comes...
It all started with this one. Eveyone of us becomes devastated when the market consecutively drops from $14K to $4K in just few months. Some of us stay calm but many panicked and dont know what to do. The market become not that profitable so cryptopeople should find a way to still earn and that comes...
Well for sure, a lot of people were weeded out since then. Only a handful of newbies remained and most of them are learning the ropes of crypto and this forum as well.
SIGNATURE AND BOUNTY CAMPAIGNS
People needs to survive even with the most difficult situation and one of the solution is to join signature and bounty campaigns which causes...
People needs to survive even with the most difficult situation and one of the solution is to join signature and bounty campaigns which causes...
This has always been a problem even before the 2017 bull run commenced, and mind you, it was already worse before we end up introducing the merit system and some more changes in the forum, so I don't think this has changed one bit.
SPAMMING AND BURST POSTING
Just to achieve its post requirement and earn bigger but thats not end with that, people want more so they need
Just to achieve its post requirement and earn bigger but thats not end with that, people want more so they need
Same point as the above, and I'm pretty sure it's being handled pretty well.
SMERIT
to have a higher payout. People which is greedy in nature obviously wants a higher payout knowingly it is just the source of income they depend on today. Do you think this is greedy enough? Youre wrong because there's more.
to have a higher payout. People which is greedy in nature obviously wants a higher payout knowingly it is just the source of income they depend on today. Do you think this is greedy enough? Youre wrong because there's more.
Merits are somewhat hard to come by especially if one is not a quality poster, or haven't spewed up some interesting information that could help other people in this forum. Aside from the change in the forum's system, not much has changed since in this field.
MULTIPLE ACCOUNT
ofcourse you can earn more if you have multiple accounts doing signature campaigns at the same time giving you double or maybe triple profit in just one blow. I know that because of the anonimity, this is possible.
This makes the forum flooded by shitposts that are just made in order to get paid on a campaign. Posts with no sense and doesnt solve the problem unlike before. Things really changed now.
ofcourse you can earn more if you have multiple accounts doing signature campaigns at the same time giving you double or maybe triple profit in just one blow. I know that because of the anonimity, this is possible.
This makes the forum flooded by shitposts that are just made in order to get paid on a campaign. Posts with no sense and doesnt solve the problem unlike before. Things really changed now.
Heh, multiple accounts are easy to spot now more than ever, and people who are doing this are basically just being banned from campaigns and doesn't receive merits from other users, just from their circle of farmed accounts. The forum has always been flooded with shitposts and rubbish, especially the altcoin section due to ICOs and airdrops. IMO, the forum has changed, yes, but not drastically.
Alt coins seem to be sorting themselves out as well. I read that 98% of the alt are fraudulent rubbish, but that leaves 2% that we should be analysing, and using. It would be good to discuss these, as I don't know too much about them.
The scams and the most shitty ones are definitely dying out slowly but surely, but yea, some are still up and even on the top 15 unfortunately(I'm looking at you, Tron). They're still getting so much money from people in the cryptocurrency space for some reason. I actually thought that these would die out in the bear market. I was definitely underestimating the ignorance of a lot of people.
Regardless, we should really expect that new scams and new shitty ones are going to arise on the next bull market though. I don't see them going away anytime soon.
Bitcoin is changing at the moment, well it's use case is anyway. Lightning is making a big difference, and the investors who are considering buying Bitcoin as an addition to gold are causing market shifts. The discovery of tungsten in the good delivery bullion bars of the LBMA may cause some dealers to look at Bitcoin as a more reliable exchange mechanism, and this could have a massive influence on the price. All of these factors are interesting to me, and I hope that we can encourage some of the "big hitters" to join the forum.
Alt coins seem to be sorting themselves out as well. I read that 98% of the alt are fraudulent rubbish, but that leaves 2% that we should be analysing, and using. It would be good to discuss these, as I don't know too much about them.
Alt coins seem to be sorting themselves out as well. I read that 98% of the alt are fraudulent rubbish, but that leaves 2% that we should be analysing, and using. It would be good to discuss these, as I don't know too much about them.
The saddest change for me is a reduction in the activities of some of the quality long term members.
So long as groups of do nothings are empowered to team up and chase away those who are actually contributing to the use cases of Bitcoin, this trend will not change.
The saddest change for me is a reduction in the activities of some of the quality long term members.
Bitcoin is so important in the new world economies, that we need to retain these members, and to attract some more senior industry personalities.
Bitcoin is so important in the new world economies, that we need to retain these members, and to attract some more senior industry personalities.
It makes me quite a bit curious how some of the sort of more reputable names I've been seeing in the past(2017-ish) went away with the bear market. I mean, these reputable and more-knowledgeable people are probably the last people we would expect to leave in a crashing market.
Add de-merrits so we can downvote people who posting FUD.
It will just bring chaos. Example: CH (or his group?) will just de-merit suchmoon, TMAN, Foxpup, and other people on his list of system abusers. Seems fair, it will be a burden for everybody especially for newcomers. Perhaps redesign the trust system.
Ore when a moderator deleted a post that person receive -1 merrit, also noted below his total amounth of merrits so everybody will see how many post has been deleted. Next issue will be; can mods be trusted that they will not abuse it.
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