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sr. member
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June 15, 2014, 09:30:11 PM
#29
Id say x11 - that why we will release such coin on this algo.

The problem with mining with those algos is that you need to invest very little in order to earn a high percentage of the rewards as a percentage of the market cap of the coin.

This makes it easy to execute a 51% attack (based on cost).
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Siamese Coin
June 13, 2014, 09:58:12 PM
#28
Id say x11 - that why we will release such coin on this algo.
legendary
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June 13, 2014, 09:54:19 PM
#27

He, who has the lowest electricity bill and lowest auxiliary costs (cooling, rent/building a DC etc.), wins.
sr. member
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June 13, 2014, 09:47:22 PM
#26
Perhaps it will be used to solve different algorithms besides of bitcoin but of course in the future , mining will be such a huge industry, a billion industry


sr. member
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June 13, 2014, 08:33:52 PM
#25
It might be too far off for most to really care about, but still.
When difficulty becomes so high that mining is only possible by hugely invested companies,
isn't it very likely that there will eventually be only a few companies capable of mining, possibly just one?
If becomes a line of business almost impossible to get into, but easy to go bust in.

Remember that 90% of all coins will be mined in 2018 and 99% in 2040, don't think people will be fighting over mining such low block rewards after that.

At that point the mining rewards will primarily consist of TX fees witch will hopefully have increased significantly by then.
hero member
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June 09, 2014, 02:31:23 PM
#24
It might be too far off for most to really care about, but still.
When difficulty becomes so high that mining is only possible by hugely invested companies,
isn't it very likely that there will eventually be only a few companies capable of mining, possibly just one?
If becomes a line of business almost impossible to get into, but easy to go bust in.

Remember that 90% of all coins will be mined in 2018 and 99% in 2040, don't think people will be fighting over mining such low block rewards after that.
sr. member
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June 09, 2014, 11:48:49 AM
#23
Asic mining has hit technology cap.

There is little room left for whale to sequence what little profit margin left.

ASIC is far from the technology "cap"

There have been great advances in both ASIC technology and technology in general in only the past 5 years (ASICs have not been around that long but for technology in general, and in one year for ASICs).

It would be very unlikely that ASICs will not become more efficient both in power consumption and total hashpower that a single machine can produce.
full member
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June 08, 2014, 02:00:20 PM
#22
Heres my prediction, as history follows:

1. GPU
2. ASIC race
3. ALT ASIC race
4. Ego friendly ASIC race
5. Ego friendly ALT asic race

or just fuken buy it right now, if you know it was $5 at 2 years ago Smiley
full member
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June 08, 2014, 09:45:22 AM
#21
Asic mining has hit technology cap.

There is little room left for whale to sequence what little profit margin left.
legendary
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June 08, 2014, 05:29:55 AM
#20
Only problem with the idea, are this:

1. The more people mining, increase the difficulty and less profitability for the miner.
2. The miner would constantly have to invest in more "USB memory sticks" or better and faster technology, making it less profitable.

Would have been a GREAT idea, if we did not have, the difficulty factor, to reckon with.

Imagine, a home pc owner, mining to pay his electric bill. His pc is linked to a exchange, the exchange, is linked to his bank account, the bank account is linked to his municipal account.

No electric Bill and extra income, while you surf the web, and playing games. It even makes money, when you sleep.

I would invest in that.  Grin
sr. member
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June 08, 2014, 04:36:01 AM
#19
That would be a good idea Kprawn.

If we could reach a point where it was possible for me to buy a small miner for under $100 that would plug into my home PC and generate enough BTC just to cover the electricity cost of running my PC I would definitely do that.

It would then cost me nothing to leave my PC running 24/7 and if it took off and millions of people embraced it we could have a large enought mining distribution to prevent a 51% attack.

In theory.
legendary
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June 08, 2014, 04:22:05 AM
#18
Real world scenario shows the same trend.

Just look at maize farming or milk farms. The Big guys are buying out the smaller farms, because the smaller farms, cannot farm profitably.

Other factors, like Big farmers, forking out for the best and most effective equipment, make their farms profitable.

Small profit margins and increase cost in energy, push farmers to sell their farms to the big guys.

Only thing, helping smaller farmers, are when governments subsidize smaller farmers with tax money.

It's going to happen with crypto mining too. Smaller "coin farmers" will have to buy hash power, from the big farmers, to be able to mine.

And investors, will follow the money, and invest in "big coin farmers" making them even stronger.

Only thing in my opinion, will be if ASIC technology becomes cheap enough, for everyone to mine. {Eg. Home users plug a USB memory stick, in their pc, and they mine coins, to pay for the electricity they use} In that way, the "big coin farmers" will have a huge amount of "smaller coin farmers" to compete with.

But that would push the price, of these "USB memory sticks" up, due to demand, and it will not become affordable, nor profitable.  Undecided
hero member
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June 08, 2014, 03:54:11 AM
#17
There would be too much competition for there only to be one. But with the huge capital barriers to entry, it is conceivable that there would be a handful of major players that could, in theory, take control of the network if they colluded.
legendary
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June 08, 2014, 02:49:57 AM
#16
It might be too far off for most to really care about, but still.
When difficulty becomes so high that mining is only possible by hugely invested companies,
isn't it very likely that there will eventually be only a few companies capable of mining, possibly just one?
If becomes a line of business almost impossible to get into, but easy to go bust in.

This will of-course always be some well funded farms.  I don't see it ever going to one huge company doing all of the mining.  If one would take over it would bring down value greatly.

There will always be personal miners.  Entry into market might be different, for example you really cant do much anymore if you have one video card and want to mine.  It takes of a investment.  As long as miner's are able to have ROI there will be a market.
hero member
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June 08, 2014, 12:53:50 AM
#15
It might be too far off for most to really care about, but still.
When difficulty becomes so high that mining is only possible by hugely invested companies,
isn't it very likely that there will eventually be only a few companies capable of mining, possibly just one?
If becomes a line of business almost impossible to get into, but easy to go bust in.

Actually, with the advancement on technology, companies are coming out really fast mining machine like 8 TH/s, soon there will be 50 TH/s machine and say bye bye to the old ASIC..

The current ASICs are in 28nm while the KnC Neptune pre-orders are claimed to be in 20nm, so the "advancement" in the future won't be as fast as a year ago.
sr. member
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June 08, 2014, 12:46:18 AM
#14
It might be too far off for most to really care about, but still.
When difficulty becomes so high that mining is only possible by hugely invested companies,
isn't it very likely that there will eventually be only a few companies capable of mining, possibly just one?
If becomes a line of business almost impossible to get into, but easy to go bust in.

Actually, with the advancement on technology, companies are coming out really fast mining machine like 8 TH/s, soon there will be 50 TH/s machine and say bye bye to the old ASIC..
sr. member
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'Slow and steady wins the race'
June 07, 2014, 11:33:58 PM
#13
It might be too far off for most to really care about, but still.
When difficulty becomes so high that mining is only possible by hugely invested companies,
isn't it very likely that there will eventually be only a few companies capable of mining, possibly just one?
If becomes a line of business almost impossible to get into, but easy to go bust in.

Mining has become and will become more centralized.

I do not envision a time when one entity will control a majority of the mining capacity.

Even if one entity controls the majority of the mining capacity it would have an incentive to not attack the network (via a 51% attack) as they would have a lot of capital invested in their machines.
hero member
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June 07, 2014, 05:37:18 AM
#12
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When difficulty becomes so high that mining is only possible by hugely invested companies,
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I think your assumption here is wrong. A higher difficulty does not prevent someone from mining, it just lowers the revenue for a fixed hash rate.

Even as the difficulty rises, the cost of hashing drops. For example, today you can get a 2 GH/s miner for about $30. Two years ago, 2 GH/s would require 6 GPUs and cost you $3000.


Not only the price drops, the power drawn (per GH/s) is lower and it is easier to do the setup. Smiley
newbie
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June 07, 2014, 02:11:03 AM
#11
Isn't mining inherently "inflationary" because of things like Moore's law and technological progress? I say inflationary because just like a dollar today is worth less than a dollar in a year because of monetary inflation, a brand spanking new butterfly labs ASIC with 600GH rate is going to be less valuable in a year when that ASIC becomes outdated. Since buying large amounts of these mining devices is a large upfront cost, why would anyone ever choose to go this route?
full member
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Merit: 100
June 06, 2014, 08:48:53 PM
#10
Well, there are some companies that allow for you to buy hashes already, such as cex.io.
www.genesis-mining.com is one of them. You will get more information about them from https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=602022.0;all
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