Topic: The future of the signature campaigns - page 2. (Read 791 times)

Quote from: W2014 on April 09, 2018, 09:44:00 AM

Hello, please how many people are using bitcointalk forum? I have heard that there are registered about 2 million accounts. But probably there are more accounts than real people. I see that there are many junior and newbies accounts, probably they are quite new, so is there any statistics about new members? I think most of them only want to earn here. How many of all members wear signature and are registered in signature campaigns?

I just wondering about the future of this forum, the signature campaigns and the bounties. If everyone will do bounty and signature, then there will be no future, right?

You are right, the number of registered profiles is much higher than actual number of real people behind them. There are many profiles that were banned or there are some profiles belong to one person.
I think making money through different campaigns is one of the main targets why people come here, it is somewhere between two other targets: to know more about bitcoin and to sell something through the forum. While the commercial performed by signature/bounty campaigns works and attract investors or users to the product, all this will continue to function as long as demand for such kind of work is going to be on the necessary level. I do not like to talk about far far future, but I expect that signature/bounty campaigns will be trendy for several years more.

Yes, they are too many registered accounts lately and they are all newcomers in the forum and some of them maybe did not pass on the merit system implemented by admin theymos, they were stuck on Jr. member rank so, I think from now on the bounty/signature participants were lessen. Probably they stopped working in the forum because of low rate in Jr. member rank to make a profit.
So, we are lucky for them that we had already this rank before merit implemented, and it takes a year before you've reached a higher rank.

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Quote from: DdmrDdmr on April 07, 2018, 03:16:51 PM

Nice graph, it is yours? So almost everyone wear signature, because they are paid for posting here, nothing bad, but mabye because this fact new merit system was implemented...

Yes, graph is mine based on data no order that two weeks (plenty more if you look through my post history if you enjoy stats). It is interesting and I even gave it a go at trying to figure out which signature campaigns had most users currently, but since each rank level has a different physical signature it’s hell trying to group them together properly by campaign.

Merit system requirements are indeed in my opinion correlated to this: signature campaigns require users to post around 15 to 20 post per week. That is a lot of posting and many people tend(ed) to post anything/anywhere to comply. Merit system’s objective is to allow compliance whilst not posting too much crap in the process.

Yeah, but I think that it's a little bit unfair, those who were active in the past and received their rank earlier.

Laws will always keep changing and there will always be people who disagree. If you were working when taxes in your country were at 10% and at some point they became 12%, your children would be against it saying that they are now going to be forced to work more to have the same money as their parents. What can you do about it, that's how the world is built.
I could say that Bitcoin is unfair because early adopters have so much and could buy them for a few dollars.

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Quote from: W2014 on April 09, 2018, 09:40:40 AM

Hello, please how many people are using bitcointalk forum? I have heard that there are registered about 2 million accounts. But probably there are more accounts than real people. I see that there are many junior and newbies accounts, probably they are quite new, so is there any statistics about new members? I think most of them only want to earn here. How many of all members wear signature and are registered in signature campaigns?

I just wondering about the future of this forum, the signature campaigns and the bounties. If everyone will do bounty and signature, then there will be no future, right?

You are right, the number of registered profiles is much higher than actual number of real people behind them. There are many profiles that were banned or there are some profiles belong to one person.
I think making money through different campaigns is one of the main targets why people come here, it is somewhere between two other targets: to know more about bitcoin and to sell something through the forum. While the commercial performed by signature/bounty campaigns works and attract investors or users to the product, all this will continue to function as long as demand for such kind of work is going to be on the necessary level. I do not like to talk about far far future, but I expect that signature/bounty campaigns will be trendy for several years more.

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https://bit.ly/387FXHi lightning theory

Quote from: Jet Cash on April 07, 2018, 10:00:09 AM

Quote from: DdmrDdmr on April 07, 2018, 03:16:51 PM

It is a good graph. However, it should be noted that this is everyone with a signature, not everyone with a paid signature.

Also 'paid' is a bit subjective. I often put an affiliate link in my sig. I do this for hosting, domain registrars or domain sales sites. Obviously I hope to profit from this. I often include domain names that I want to sell, or my sites that I may want to promote. A signature is quite useful for me, but I don't have any pressures to display it.

And how many members clicked on your advertisement? Worth it? Because I think that many people don´t read what you have in your signature space.

I'd disagree with this. I read some of them normally. If it's one I have seen a bit or one that looks good, i'll click the link and check it out.
I think i've found a lot of bitcoin sites either from their ann page or from others' signatures.

Though I doubt it's a great earning, they probably get something. There were users who reported getting "some" clicks every week - I d'nt thik you get a lot but you can probably get a few (it's not as much as buying an ad though on the forum).

W2014

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Quote from: Jet Cash on April 07, 2018, 10:00:09 AM

Nice graph, it is yours? So almost everyone wear signature, because they are paid for posting here, nothing bad, but mabye because this fact new merit system was implemented...

Yes, graph is mine based on data no order that two weeks (plenty more if you look through my post history if you enjoy stats). It is interesting and I even gave it a go at trying to figure out which signature campaigns had most users currently, but since each rank level has a different physical signature it’s hell trying to group them together properly by campaign.

Merit system requirements are indeed in my opinion correlated to this: signature campaigns require users to post around 15 to 20 post per week. That is a lot of posting and many people tend(ed) to post anything/anywhere to comply. Merit system’s objective is to allow compliance whilst not posting too much crap in the process.

Yeah, but I think that it's a little bit unfair, those who were active in the past and received their rank earlier.

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Quote from: hurry_hore on April 07, 2018, 01:57:42 AM

It is a good graph. However, it should be noted that this is everyone with a signature, not everyone with a paid signature.

Also 'paid' is a bit subjective. I often put an affiliate link in my sig. I do this for hosting, domain registrars or domain sales sites. Obviously I hope to profit from this. I often include domain names that I want to sell, or my sites that I may want to promote. A signature is quite useful for me, but I don't have any pressures to display it.

And how many members clicked on your advertisement? Worth it? Because I think that many people don´t read what you have in your signature space.

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Hello, please how many people are using bitcointalk forum? I have heard that there are registered about 2 million accounts. But probably there are more accounts than real people. I see that there are many junior and newbies accounts, probably they are quite new, so is there any statistics about new members? I think most of them only want to earn here. How many of all members wear signature and are registered in signature campaigns?

I just wondering about the future of this forum, the signature campaigns and the bounties. If everyone will do bounty and signature, then there will be no future, right?

I think future of this forum will be on all registered account hands, certainly moderator and admins will be have higher concern rather than others. So future is also relying to us, including you and me. I hope this forum to be kept and maintained for long term, that's the reason for merit system implemented and seems worked until now.

And this forum should be an informative for everyone that's looking for a reliable one.
So it's so nice that the moderators are doing their best to improve the rules here and to at least lessen the spammers. Hope the true essence of this forum lives on for more years.

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Quote from: Jet Cash on April 06, 2018, 08:15:07 AM

Hello, please how many people are using bitcointalk forum? I have heard that there are registered about 2 million accounts. But probably there are more accounts than real people. I see that there are many junior and newbies accounts, probably they are quite new, so is there any statistics about new members? I think most of them only want to earn here. How many of all members wear signature and are registered in signature campaigns?

I just wondering about the future of this forum, the signature campaigns and the bounties. If everyone will do bounty and signature, then there will be no future, right?

There are many accounts listed in this forum, but only a few are active and can also contribute well to forums. This is a problem because sometimes everyone just aims to earn money and without the feeling of wanting to give the best of what they do. Signature campaign will always motivate someone to be able to provide the best, but sometimes there are people who just pursue the post without any sense of wanting to give the best. For me we as a member in this forum should be able to give a real contribution, especially when we get paid from things like signature campaign.

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If we can get rid of the bad signature campaigns, and reduce the low quality spamming, then the forum can grow back into the valuable resource it was a few years ago.

Yah, just think in another way. More accounts will remain contributing quality posts which in turn enhance the forum. This would in turn make more members and juniors urge themselves go much deeper in learning and providing quality posts to rank up with merits. This will spread good fame and name to all bounties and signature campaign and other campaigns as well. We will have rooms for new innovations, ideas, encouragements as well as good pay from all sources available in this forum. Quality stuffs always gains a vast market though it takes time. But it remains strong then after.

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https://bit.ly/387FXHi lightning theory

Quote from: DdmrDdmr on April 07, 2018, 03:30:13 PM

Yes your right. Basically, since each rank had a different signature and there are so many signatures all in all, it would be a long exhausting process trying to distinguish what is a campaign signature from what is a personal alternative option. That would be content based analysis.

I should like to stress out that the graph is only based on data concerning users that have either given or received sMerit, since that dataset is manageable in terms of raw data gathering. That means that it does not contain info on those users with a signature that do not merit others nor receive it.

It’s good enough though to get a general idea of signature campaign subscribers.

Yes. Though it is also probably the better quality posters that are taken into account here also as users who have sent and recieved several merit generally have a better posting quality or have a history here that stands out a bit against everyone else.

Quote from: Jet Cash on April 07, 2018, 10:00:09 AM

Also 'paid' is a bit subjective. I often put an affiliate link in my sig. I do this for hosting, domain registrars or domain sales sites. Obviously I hope to profit from this. I often include domain names that I want to sell, or my sites that I may want to promote. A signature is quite useful for me, but I don't have any pressures to display it.

I was also considering the 'paid' bit myself.
For example, ChipMixer have their signature and it's the same as the paid one, but they're not getting paid to wear it, they're just advertising their service - so it would look like it's a paid for one when it's not (to something like a bot or someone who doesn't know it's their company - if it was someone like Stunna with a primedice signature then you couldn't immediately relate them unless you knew that they owned PD).

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Although, information on that would be much more difficult to determine whether someone has a paid signature or not and would take a lot more data analysis so that graph is good as a rough example anyways.

Yes your right. Basically, since each rank had a different signature and there are so many signatures all in all, it would be a long exhausting process trying to distinguish what is a campaign signature from what is a personal alternative option. That would be content based analysis.

I should like to stress out that the graph is only based on data concerning users that have either given or received sMerit, since that dataset is manageable in terms of raw data gathering. That means that it does not contain info on those users with a signature that do not merit others nor receive it.

It’s good enough though to get a general idea of signature campaign subscribers.

DdmrDdmr

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There are lies, damned lies and statistics. MTwain

Nice graph, it is yours? So almost everyone wear signature, because they are paid for posting here, nothing bad, but mabye because this fact new merit system was implemented...

Yes, graph is mine based on data no order that two weeks (plenty more if you look through my post history if you enjoy stats). It is interesting and I even gave it a go at trying to figure out which signature campaigns had most users currently, but since each rank level has a different physical signature it’s hell trying to group them together properly by campaign.

Merit system requirements are indeed in my opinion correlated to this: signature campaigns require users to post around 15 to 20 post per week. That is a lot of posting and many people tend(ed) to post anything/anywhere to comply. Merit system’s objective is to allow compliance whilst not posting too much crap in the process.

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It is a good graph. However, it should be noted that this is everyone with a signature, not everyone with a paid signature.

Also 'paid' is a bit subjective. I often put an affiliate link in my sig. I do this for hosting, domain registrars or domain sales sites. Obviously I hope to profit from this. I often include domain names that I want to sell, or my sites that I may want to promote. A signature is quite useful for me, but I don't have any pressures to display it.

jackg

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https://bit.ly/387FXHi lightning theory

Quote from: DdmrDdmr on April 06, 2018, 03:57:29 PM

Quote from: DdmrDdmr on April 06, 2018, 03:57:29 PM

I just wondering about the future of this forum, the signature campaigns and the bounties. If everyone will do bounty and signature, then there will be no future, right?

The above the amount of users that are involved in a sMerit Transaction (*) by Rank, and how many of them have a signature in their profile.
Signature is not always equivalent to signature campaign, since we can put whatever we please on the signature field in our profile. For example, the Administrators have a bitcoin address (theymos) and links to certain bitcoin forum sections (Cyrus). Also many newbies have a personal frase and not a signature campaign, as do others.

Nevertheless, it's a good indicator to the amount of active users (*) that participate in a signature campaign: around 71%

Note: (*) Users considered in this stat are those that either act as a sender or receiver of sMerit

Nice graph, it is yours? So almost everyone wear signature, because they are paid for posting here, nothing bad, but mabye because this fact new merit system was implemented...

It is a good graph. However, it should be noted that this is everyone with a signature, not everyone with a paid signature.

Theymos, for example, has a signature with his donation address in it. This shouldn't really be mistaken as a paid signature he's put in for himself.
Although, information on that would be much more difficult to determine whether someone has a paid signature or not and would take a lot more data analysis so that graph is good as a rough example anyways.

W2014

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I just wondering about the future of this forum, the signature campaigns and the bounties. If everyone will do bounty and signature, then there will be no future, right?

The above the amount of users that are involved in a sMerit Transaction (*) by Rank, and how many of them have a signature in their profile.
Signature is not always equivalent to signature campaign, since we can put whatever we please on the signature field in our profile. For example, the Administrators have a bitcoin address (theymos) and links to certain bitcoin forum sections (Cyrus). Also many newbies have a personal frase and not a signature campaign, as do others.

Nevertheless, it's a good indicator to the amount of active users (*) that participate in a signature campaign: around 71%

Note: (*) Users considered in this stat are those that either act as a sender or receiver of sMerit

Nice graph, it is yours? So almost everyone wear signature, because they are paid for posting here, nothing bad, but mabye because this fact new merit system was implemented...

daduremi

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I am very sure of all members in this forum, maybe only about 40% who participate to be investors, the rest only work in forums, follow bounty campaign.

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Hello, please how many people are using bitcointalk forum? I have heard that there are registered about 2 million accounts. But probably there are more accounts than real people. I see that there are many junior and newbies accounts, probably they are quite new, so is there any statistics about new members? I think most of them only want to earn here. How many of all members wear signature and are registered in signature campaigns?

I just wondering about the future of this forum, the signature campaigns and the bounties. If everyone will do bounty and signature, then there will be no future, right?

I think future of this forum will be on all registered account hands, certainly moderator and admins will be have higher concern rather than others. So future is also relying to us, including you and me. I hope this forum to be kept and maintained for long term, that's the reason for merit system implemented and seems worked until now.

DdmrDdmr

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There are lies, damned lies and statistics. MTwain

I just wondering about the future of this forum, the signature campaigns and the bounties. If everyone will do bounty and signature, then there will be no future, right?

The above the amount of users that are involved in a sMerit Transaction (*) by Rank, and how many of them have a signature in their profile.
Signature is not always equivalent to signature campaign, since we can put whatever we please on the signature field in our profile. For example, the Administrators have a bitcoin address (theymos) and links to certain bitcoin forum sections (Cyrus). Also many newbies have a personal frase and not a signature campaign, as do others.

Nevertheless, it's a good indicator to the amount of active users (*) that participate in a signature campaign: around 71%

Note: (*) Users considered in this stat are those that either act as a sender or receiver of sMerit

Alone055

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I just wondering about the future of this forum, the signature campaigns and the bounties. If everyone will do bounty and signature, then there will be no future, right?

It could have a worse future than we might think if Merit system was not introduced. There were literally no much effective ways of decreasing spam or stopping the trend of multiple alts enrolling in signature campaigns to earn money until theymos implemented this system to restrict spammers from ranking up without any prior efforts towards the betterment of the community. But now I think the future won't be too bad, seeing the fact that there will only be quality posters in signature campaigns (if there will be any) as spammers won't rank up and stop using the forum if they find it not working for them.

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