Topic: The gambler destroyed (Read 2251 times)

I am still waiting for the katest updates on this as I ak genuinely concerned on ow would this program work and if it could really be attributed to the things that you have detailed. ALso it is very surprising to see the obkective of the program

Hi guys,

Took a little time to read about this topic which is very interesting. Its impressive really -  There are so many people here, even referenced to gambling sites that do not have a clue what math can do for us gamblers.

On the other hand, there is so much good info on this forum, by people that know what there are saying, that I just cannot believe the gibberish that has been attested here.

Let me just say I'm very pragmatic and the following words do not intend to criminalize or denigrate any user or identity, to whom it may be concerned.

Now, my humble, yet undoubtful 2 cents - First and foremost, math can evidently help you in any luck game, by the terms of odds. I'm not going to enter in specifics since I've already posted some examples in the past where skilled mathematicians beat the casinos on their own game, to the point where the whole family have been banned to enter that casinos. Sure, there is a house edge, normally 0.5% to 1% and it will eat you out on the long term, using the gambling site interface.

Here enters probably fair - for me, a well skinned-worded hoax that shields some gambling sites out there, from the ignorant players (ignorant as in non-math versed , not pejorative ) from eventual accusations of non fair gambling. Maybe this is the reason why there are no representatives of these gambling sites discussing or commenting for that matter, on the very much interesting and versed posts about probably fairness and its transparent implementation.

Now the sad part is that any BTC gambling site that reiterates that is using probably fair gaming, can only be proofed by the odds when played with some specific mathematical formula. All of them fail to be regulated by some certified regulatory agency (I could be wrong since I do not know every gambling site) therefore, integrity towards the player is very much as stake here. Meanwhile, ask any good mathematician and he/she can surely write a script were the odds will favor the player, despite the sparse yet evident house edge. And yes, there is such a thing called strategy that can ultimatly beat this edge.

Going a little offtopic, I myself play at 2 sites, very well known. On these 2 sites I can irrefutably say that based on the odds permitted by the formula used, one seems to be fair and the other does not - meaning, one behavior can be predicted with a sure level of certainty as per the other cannot on the same time frame with same nonce, using the same exact formula. Any good mathematician will label such behavior as non fair as the site starts to magically beating the odds in a consecutive manner, which by formula definition, is not impossible, but highly improbable. Moreover, the variable of the recurrence which is declared in the formula, starts to reveal a pattern, which ultimately, gives some degree of certainty that the site is in fact rigged.

Long story short, math can help. You just have to be math savvy. But unfortunalty this level of mathematics is not something the average joe reaches out. Or else believe me when I say, there would not be such a thing as a house edge. If everyone had these skills I mean.

But hey... never gamble more than you can possible afford to loose. There are formulas. But they are called luck games for a reason.

But the chances of winning and losing money in different games are different, in some gambling games where we totally depend on our luck there our chances are the same but in other gambling games where we do not depend on our luck for everything, and we have the opportunity to use our experience and skill, there we can increase our chances of making money through our experience.

To make not get mad from losing at the casino much better if you don't mind or will not hoping for winning this a kind of game. All you have to do just play for fun purposes and limit your money to be gambled to. So that in the end you will not regret instead getting relaxed from gambling because your intention is just to make you fun and entertained there's nothing else.

Do not bother asking him to drop any mathematical proof because there is none. If mathematics can help people win in gambling, Mathematics would have been the hottest profession right now, and I am sure even casinos will have to ban Mathematicians from entering the casinos and start requesting for certificates before entering any. He can just keep his strategy to himself, as strategies did not just start popping up yesterday.

You can never ever win against casinos because they are the sole controllers of the result of the game. Even if you win and they are against you, you cannot claim for your money. Moreover those people who have caseins are really very criminal minded and usually have bad history. There is no need to get in fight with them. Ignore them as much as you can.

That is one huge point you dropped bro!
Except for consistency though which no one would really want to be consistently losing all the time. You said it all anyway, as long as everyone gambling tend to see gambling as fun, it makes them feel relaxed even when they lose and does not make them over bet more than they plan to while betting only what they can afford to lose.

If luck plays out fine, good, and if it does not, fine. The most important thing is to have the mindset that you can lose all while hoping for winnings. How I see it is that, I am paying for a game to have fun and I can win a whole lot in the process.

Its normal and as a gambling site owner i would really update my site as much as i can on the possible loop holes that you said which would cause on such bankruptcy and im sure they are doing such stuff because no businessman would really like for its business to go down.If theres a way then better to spoil it while it last because if you do share it then gambling sites will get rid of it and make some updates.

If anyone should have a strategy right now, the last thing they would even want to do is to sell it. The more you blow it out, the more the gambling sites realize the loop hole and they readjust. Aside these, it is just a sorry case because they already know all these tricks which is why we cannot beat the house edge to it most times. I have noticed that even in dice the losing streaks have gotten even longer in most dice games than we use to have them in the past.

True, if we are in the 19th century, old tricks will work but I think time have changed now. Casinos are multi-billion dollars company, and as the technology is being develops, their system are being developed too, they have cameras, computers (supercomputers, dedicated computers mainly for solving combinations and algorithms), professionals for observing people and lawyers to protect their rights. They won't just let us walk into casino and have a lot of cash on the exit. Some casinos even prohibits card counting. Unfair and there's no justice there. But for the sake of one's entertainment and greed for money. People are getting drowned in thier own game and sometimes die in their own greediness.

And if someone change the game, for example invented a method, they will change the rules too, and that method won't be used again. That's how it works and that's why many are just basing on experience and pure luck.

You are definitely right. Being able to win does not change the fact that you are still playing with risk and odds. Even if you have the capital or even if you prayed to your God, the chances of winning and losing are still the same. Consider that as your lucky day and if you think that your method works superstitiously, then who am I to stop you? Just remember that you should know WHEN to STOP gambling and only bet the money that you are willing to lose in order to at least lessen your regret. I have a lot of friends who have experienced your situation and almost all of them ended being bankrupt. Best of luck!

Really?  May I ask: What's your level of mathematics proficiency?  Did you derive a mathematical proof for your discovery or was it obtained by trial and error?  If you can provide a mathematical proof, I may be interested in securing a copy of your automation script.  However, I highly doubt that a proof exists.

Sometimes will work but it will not last in the long run, you need to be consistent if you want to win in gambling and that is a hard thing to achieve actually.  If you play for fun then for sure you will get entertain when you are lucky and you will never get disappointed when you lose because you know you will lose. Therefore everyone should understand that our chance to win in gambling is very low compared to the house, and that is the main reason why they are still here while some gamblers have ruin their lives because of their lack of discipline.

Well all i did understand is that you were successful in developing a strategy to override a certain game . I wouldn't advice anyone to follow such strategies or better call them "myths" , since such things are 99% of the time scams . Developing your own strategy that suits your playing style and thinking is the best way to do especially if it's a card game . Other games that are luck dependent should be looked at from a math perspective which will eventually make things easier since there's always order in the disorder and you can calculate the probability of everything and play around it .

I strongly support this statement.

Once people realizes that there's simply no chance for them to win against the house at the long run, they will stop trying to find the perfect method for winning.


Also, the most stupidest thing I have heard is from people who claims that they can always win against dice, unless you found a way to rig the system( actually change the code or found an ingame bug), there is literally no chance to win at the long run. never.
It is the same as betting against someone who has an advantage over you.

there not really is a chance to win by gambling, its depend on your luck to play it
I am not sure that any tips or trick really working to win in gambling

That's your opinion and respect it. I just want you to know that there really is a chance to win from gambling.

Gambling means loosing money at some time winning also. If we compare the winning and loosing, winning is lesser the loosing. So it is part of gambling. No one force you to gamble you by your cautious only you play so you should have control on your betting and not blame gambling.

Yes many are dreaming of winning maybe a jackpot in their lifetime and so they keep playing even though its easy to realize from a distance that gambling is not forthem. I will prefer sports betting to the rest because with that even though you loose you also win substantially to undo your losses if you are strategic about your games and it affords you the chance to make some reasoning inputs.

Is there anything we can do to break this evil cycle of gambling, from what I have seen, the winning that we get doesn't even cover our losses in the first place. So we are losing money but since we win once in a while we are happy about it.