The Great Silk Road Crash of 20** ...? - page 10.

CoinHoarder

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Silk Road is overrated anyways. Grin

I've used Black Market Reloaded a couple times with great success though. I was able to find cheaper prices for a half of dank ($150) and I assume it isn't being watched as closely as SR is when it comes to the Feds since they are a smaller/newer black market.

They sell some crazy stuff on BMR tho, hitmen, prostitutes, weapons of mass destruction, guns, ... all sorts of crazy stuff. I'd be willing to bet 90% of those offerings are scams. Not that I would order any of those things anyways, but I'd be way too sketched to buy anything but some green on any of these sites.

Shotgun_WooWoo

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If we want to keep it up, we need to keep it off this forum and fully privatized. I think it should be referred to as privatized drug trade, rather than anonymous. It does remove the dangers of people buying drugs on the street, then again they aren't the easiest to work with.

AndrewBUD

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Yeah it's back ^

edit: No it's not.... Login screen is back only Tongue

"Logins are restricted for the next few hours, please try again later."

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Guess who just got back

molecular

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Quote from: mp420 on November 14, 2012, 03:32:40 AM

I think all BTC denominated drug trade together adds something like two or three dollars to the BTC price, and if SR were shut down most of the sellers and buyers would just migrate to other sites, so SR itself would be less than $1. Most of BTC trade value comes from speculative demand, drug trade is the only real user of BTC so far that has any significance.

I calculated (guesstimated, pretty worst-case in the sense that the number is an upper bound) a while back SR was responsible for $0.25 of bitcoin value, if one can see it like that.

However: the market isn't rational *looks at mtgox-hack-drop*, it's more like an emotion-driven woman that will hysterically panic on bad news. SR down for good is one of the impactful news I can imagine in this regard.

On the other hand, since about at least half a year, the market participants seems to have become a lot more robust against bad news. Maybe it's just the bitcoinica-squeezing-effects removed, but I doubt it.

Yet on the other hand: it can be rational to follow the knee-jerk news reactions to profiteer on the irrationality.

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I think all BTC denominated drug trade together adds something like two or three dollars to the BTC price, and if SR were shut down most of the sellers and buyers would just migrate to other sites, so SR itself would be less than $1. Most of BTC trade value comes from speculative demand, drug trade is the only real user of BTC so far that has any significance.

molecular

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Quote from: Micon on November 13, 2012, 09:27:55 AM

posted this in other "SR Down" thread in speculation too.

SR page now loading, claiming maintenance. IMO positive sign that everything is as they say, upgrades for moar users. Obv in BTC world you never know, but whoever the SR boys are they have done a good job keeping it alive, growing it, and dodging the fuzz. I give them internet-brofist.

*puts on tinfoil hat* the FEDs or whoever figured out how to use that key they confiscated and are now trying to get the site replicated as honeypot.

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Quote from: ElectricMucus on November 13, 2012, 11:21:11 AM

Quote from: adamstgBit on November 13, 2012, 11:16:40 AM

Quote from: Micon on November 13, 2012, 09:27:55 AM

posted this in other "SR Down" thread in speculation too.

SR page now loading, claiming maintenance. IMO positive sign that everything is as they say, upgrades for moar users. Obv in BTC world you never know, but whoever the SR boys are they have done a good job keeping it alive, growing it, and dodging the fuzz. I give them internet-brofist.

SR should look into making a p2p distributed market place, tor is a quick and dirty solution. A specialized program where seller and users are completely anonymous, would do wonders for traffic, and also it could be organized to be impervious to DOS.

No, not SR should look into it but everybody.
If there is a "SR Client" it would create a honeypot where just the possession of the program makes you a suspect. But on the other hand if there is a general purpose "Anonymous P2P Cloud Computing Platform" it would make tor (or hidden services) obsolete in an instant.

Good point. Another point: SR is not under pressure to to innovate, it's future competition is.

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Quote from: adamstgBit on November 13, 2012, 11:16:40 AM

Quote from: Micon on November 13, 2012, 09:27:55 AM

posted this in other "SR Down" thread in speculation too.

SR page now loading, claiming maintenance. IMO positive sign that everything is as they say, upgrades for moar users. Obv in BTC world you never know, but whoever the SR boys are they have done a good job keeping it alive, growing it, and dodging the fuzz. I give them internet-brofist.

SR should look into making a p2p distributed market place, tor is a quick and dirty solution. A specialized program where seller and users are completely anonymous, would do wonders for traffic, and also it could be organized to be impervious to DOS.

There may or may not be people working on exactly this.

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Quote from: naima53 on November 13, 2012, 02:36:13 PM

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..what if SR is compromised ...what if they are making a set up right now for the sellers ? usual police scheme works in the way we all know ,when somebody is busted ,police doesnt inform everybody about the bust ..no they actually keep it secret and trying to set up as many people as possible and the person who s got busted first is usually helping them out ..so what if SR was busted and right now they are working on SR to bust more ..and then they would want sellers to log in..i mean its just a theory ..but they have been down for a hot minute now

I could find what real Internet IP is hosting a .onion site. Or rather I could find what IP bridges the network hosting the .onion site to the real Internet. It would take some time, some money, and require minor illegal activity but I could do it in principle (not that I ever would.)

If I can do it in principle law enforcement can do it in practice.

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..what if SR is compromised ...what if they are making a set up right now for the sellers ? usual police scheme works in the way we all know ,when somebody is busted ,police doesnt inform everybody about the bust ..no they actually keep it secret and trying to set up as many people as possible and the person who s got busted first is usually helping them out ..so what if SR was busted and right now they are working on SR to bust more ..and then they would want sellers to log in..i mean its just a theory ..but they have been down for a hot minute now

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Quote from: Palor on November 13, 2012, 12:52:24 PM

Quote from: adamstgBit on November 13, 2012, 12:36:19 PM

Quote from: Palor on November 13, 2012, 12:34:27 PM

Not a techy question or anything but do vendors on SR have their own site separate from everybody else? In other words, can they still access the site despite the fact we can't?

IDK, but they probably use the same site.
if its down for you, its down for them
that would be my guess.

Thank you for the direct and simple answer!

I figured as much but had a glimmer of hope that there was another way.

isn't SR back up?

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Quote from: adamstgBit on November 13, 2012, 12:36:19 PM

Quote from: Palor on November 13, 2012, 12:34:27 PM

Not a techy question or anything but do vendors on SR have their own site separate from everybody else? In other words, can they still access the site despite the fact we can't?

IDK, but they probably use the same site.
if its down for you, its down for them
that would be my guess.

Thank you for the direct and simple answer!

I figured as much but had a glimmer of hope that there was another way.

adamstgBit

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Quote from: Palor on November 13, 2012, 12:34:27 PM

Not a techy question or anything but do vendors on SR have their own site separate from everybody else? In other words, can they still access the site despite the fact we can't?

IDK, but they probably use the same site.
if its down for you, its down for them
that would be my guess.

Palor

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Not a techy question or anything but do vendors on SR have their own site separate from everybody else? In other words, can they still access the site despite the fact we can't?

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Quote from: ElectricMucus

No, not SR should look into it but everybody.
If there is a "SR Client" it would create a honeypot where just the possession of the program makes you a suspect. But on the other hand if there is a general purpose "Anonymous P2P Cloud Computing Platform" it would make tor (or hidden services) obsolete in an instant.

this is exactly what the whole internet should become. decentralized and encrypted. keep governments and other interests out from meddling. free flow of information would be the next renaissance for humanity.

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Quote from: adamstgBit on November 13, 2012, 11:16:40 AM

Quote from: Micon on November 13, 2012, 09:27:55 AM

posted this in other "SR Down" thread in speculation too.

SR page now loading, claiming maintenance. IMO positive sign that everything is as they say, upgrades for moar users. Obv in BTC world you never know, but whoever the SR boys are they have done a good job keeping it alive, growing it, and dodging the fuzz. I give them internet-brofist.

SR should look into making a p2p distributed market place, tor is a quick and dirty solution. A specialized program where seller and users are completely anonymous, would do wonders for traffic, and also it could be organized to be impervious to DOS.

No, not SR should look into it but everybody.
If there is a "SR Client" it would create a honeypot where just the possession of the program makes you a suspect. But on the other hand if there is a general purpose "Anonymous P2P Cloud Computing Platform" it would make tor (or hidden services) obsolete in an instant.

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Quote from: adamstgBit on November 13, 2012, 11:16:40 AM

Quote from: Micon on November 13, 2012, 09:27:55 AM

posted this in other "SR Down" thread in speculation too.

SR page now loading, claiming maintenance. IMO positive sign that everything is as they say, upgrades for moar users. Obv in BTC world you never know, but whoever the SR boys are they have done a good job keeping it alive, growing it, and dodging the fuzz. I give them internet-brofist.

SR should look into making a p2p distributed market place, tor is a quick and dirty solution. A specialized program where seller and users are completely anonymous, would do wonders for traffic, and also it could be organized to be impervious to DOS.

yea +1

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Quote from: Micon on November 13, 2012, 09:27:55 AM

posted this in other "SR Down" thread in speculation too.

SR page now loading, claiming maintenance. IMO positive sign that everything is as they say, upgrades for moar users. Obv in BTC world you never know, but whoever the SR boys are they have done a good job keeping it alive, growing it, and dodging the fuzz. I give them internet-brofist.

SR should look into making a p2p distributed market place, tor is a quick and dirty solution. A specialized program where seller and users are completely anonymous, would do wonders for traffic, and also it could be organized to be impervious to DOS.

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Good post... ^

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