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It is interesting to what extent these facts are confirmed by evidence-based medicine. After all, most of them became a discovery for me. I still believe that overuse is only harmful.
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There isn't even a small level of alcohol that's safe: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(18)31310-2

And so even if a moderate level of alcohol might have therapeutic effects, any such effects would be completely negated by other damage caused to your organs. And with how common substance abuse is, the category of "moderate drinkers" probably hardly exists. You either consume little to nothing, or well past any therapeutic dose.

Alcohol causes hypertension, so what good could it really do to prevent heart disease?

That's what I was going to say. For many years we have been bombarded with articles that were actually paid advertisements for the alcohol industry, undercover, to say that x amount of beer or x amount of wine is healthy because so and so, as the OP mentions.

In the end, alcohol is toxic and, as you say, not healthy at all. At least if people want to drink alcohol they should be aware of it, and not be sold a lie. Even knowing that it is a toxic substance, alcohol consumption is already high enough in itself.
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It all plays but having too much of everything can harm our health. Yes, there are health benefits of alcohol and wines but if you're drinking too much you know what it will build up.

Moderation is the way to live our lives, not only alcohol that can cause damage to the body but eating unhealthy can also endanger us. However, the kidney is easily affected with alcohol because of the function it does in the body, like removing of excess fluid and alcohol itself is generating unwanted substance that overburden the kidney.
Yeah right. Everything that's too much is gonna cause us our health and you're right that it's not just the drinks, the alcohol, and the beverages but also what we intake in our body. I do understand we do love food, good food, and eating and that's a basic necessity for most of us. But when the trouble comes and we go ahead to the doctor when we feel something bad inside us, the culprit is the food that we take or the drink that we drink.

It is better to eat and drink in moderation.
Also, drink enough water and not fluids that are colored.
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The only benefit is to your mental health, not your physical health. Alcohol can lift depression temporarily and lighten the mood of a room, and good for social gathering. Alcohol should be consumed in moderate amount because it can be hazardous to health and damaging to the kidney. Red wines out of the whole category of alcohol is the best choice if you must consume alcohol, but still it still does not have to be abused as some people do very frequently and call it enjoyment. Drink and gamble responsibly.
I agree with the benefits of alcohol you just mentioned,  but the problem people do have with alcohol is that they abused it by taking more alcohol which can be a serious problem to the human organs that can later lead to death. Alcohol is not bad but very dangerous to the health, their should be limit to the intake of alcohol which can help the body to be in a better condition.  The kidney is one of the most important organ in the body and can be easily destroy by alcohol.

Moderation is the way to live our lives, not only alcohol that can cause damage to the body but eating unhealthy can also endanger us. However, the kidney is easily affected with alcohol because of the function it does in the body, like removing of excess fluid and alcohol itself is generating unwanted substance that overburden the kidney. It is better to eat and drink in moderation.
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The only benefit is to your mental health, not your physical health. Alcohol can lift depression temporarily and lighten the mood of a room, and good for social gathering. Alcohol should be consumed in moderate amount because it can be hazardous to health and damaging to the kidney. Red wines out of the whole category of alcohol is the best choice if you must consume alcohol, but still it still does not have to be abused as some people do very frequently and call it enjoyment. Drink and gamble responsibly.
I agree with the benefits of alcohol you just mentioned,  but the problem people do have with alcohol is that they abused it by taking more alcohol which can be a serious problem to the human organs that can later lead to death. Alcohol is not bad but very dangerous to the health, their should be limit to the intake of alcohol which can help the body to be in a better condition.  The kidney is one of the most important organ in the body and can be easily destroy by alcohol.
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Because of the addictive nature of alcohols, heavy drinking is largely almost irresistible by drinkers, resulting to a variety of diseases as a result of the causes I described above.

This fact has also make the health benefits of drinking at moderate level not well known. However, moderate drinking can be advantageous to human health, as I will demonstrate below:

Addiction in the use of alcohol is a topic that we cannot run away from, I suggest we open discussion about this topic for the purpose of educating each other.

There's nothing wrong with having a moderate quantity of alcohol, beers or other brands of beverages. The issues with them only comes up when they're been abused and alcohol can be very addictive and easily abused which is why they're been banned in some countries.

They're banned as they can make people to misbehave and cause destruction of properties. The health benefits of alcohol can be gotten from other beverages, fruits and food that isn't harmful to the body therefore we can stay without alcohol.

Alcohol is mainly consumed as a means of having fun, getting drunk or feeling spirited and not because of all the health benefits that you have mentioned. Alcohol has a more negative impact on the society than a positive impact because of it's toxicity nature.

We shouldn't be promoting the drinking of alcohol instead we should be discouraging people from drinking it. Drinking more of water should be promoted as the health benefits of water is more than any other beverages.
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You can't tell an alcoholic lover to stop drinking alcohol because it causes damages in his system, to be honest the reply you'd get would even get you tired of advising them to stop. Too much of alcohol causes a lot of damages in the system, if not that it can make you start doing things out of other, you can be saying things that doesn't make sense abusing people around you. After some time if they tell you all you did, I believe you won't even agree. So is just not healthy to me.
I think the OP made it clear that he is not telling people to stop taking alcohol but at least we should try and reduce the rate at which we take it not to stop taking it completely because of the outlined benefit of taking alcohol the OP has outlined.


This fact has also make the health benefits of drinking at moderate level not well known. However, moderate drinking can be advantageous to human health, as I will demonstrate below:

* Beers can lower the risk of of kidney stones: Beer was found to reduce the risk of kidney stones by 41%.

* Beers strengthen your bones: Beer's high source of silicon content is what's responsible for an increase in bone density.

* Alcohol can protect you from heart attacks.

* Red wines can help fight colds: 8 -14 glasses of wine per week, one could see a 60% reduction in the risk developing a cold.

* Red wines can boost your memory: A compound found in the skin of red grapes can improve memory and cognitive function.
* Beers have vitamins.
* Whisky can cure sore throats.
* Drinking moderately can improve sexual function in men.
* Drinking can also help in Reducing blood clotting.
* Beer can help stop cataracts.

Addiction in the use of alcohol is a topic that we cannot run away from, I suggest we open discussion about this topic for the purpose of educating each other.
Just that addiction to alcohol is not good for our Healths.
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Excessive intake of alcohol can make one misbehave and look irresponsible. That is why in whatever we are taking into our body should be taken moderately because if it isn't take with caution, there must be a side effect for it.

Alcohol is good for the tommy to help in stomach bite and it also enable one to overcome bad mood within a short period of time. I don't like taking much of alcohol as I do take it occasionally. Alcohol,sex,gamble and drug abuse has a negative impact on the addicted person's  life.
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* Drinking moderately can improve sexual function in men.


You will need to explain this more because I have not heard it that taking alcohol can help a man sexual performance. Rather what I have heard is that alcohol is likely not to help a man in sexual performance. I believe that we should do things in moderation because whatever we do excessively is an abuse and likely to demage our system. Those who are addicted to alcohol have not confirmed that help sexual performance rather I think what affects sexual performance is mostly age. You don't expect an older person man or woman to as active as a younger person.
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I read somewhere that moderate drinking can help prevent heart disease.

https://www.webmd.com/heart-disease/heart-disease-alcohol-your-heart

There isn't even a small level of alcohol that's safe: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(18)31310-2

And so even if a moderate level of alcohol might have therapeutic effects, any such effects would be completely negated by other damage caused to your organs. And with how common substance abuse is, the category of "moderate drinkers" probably hardly exists. You either consume little to nothing, or well past any therapeutic dose.

Alcohol causes hypertension, so what good could it really do to prevent heart disease?
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You can't tell an alcoholic lover to stop drinking alcohol because it causes damages in his system, to be honest the reply you'd get would even get you tired of advising them to stop. Too much of alcohol causes a lot of damages in the system, if not that it can make you start doing things out of other, you can be saying things that doesn't make sense abusing people around you. After some time if they tell you all you did, I believe you won't even agree. So is just not healthy to me.
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This fact has also make the health benefits of drinking at moderate level not well known. However, moderate drinking can be advantageous to human health, as I will demonstrate below:

* Beers can lower the risk of of kidney stones: Beer was found to reduce the risk of kidney stones by 41%.

* Beers strengthen your bones: Beer's high source of silicon content is what's responsible for an increase in bone density.

* Alcohol can protect you from heart attacks.

* Red wines can help fight colds: 8 -14 glasses of wine per week, one could see a 60% reduction in the risk developing a cold.

* Red wines can boost your memory: A compound found in the skin of red grapes can improve memory and cognitive function.
* Beers have vitamins.
* Whisky can cure sore throats.
* Drinking moderately can improve sexual function in men.
* Drinking can also help in Reducing blood clotting.
* Beer can help stop cataracts.

Addiction in the use of alcohol is a topic that we cannot run away from, I suggest we open discussion about this topic for the purpose of educating each other.

I am not a lover of alcohol because of hangovers. I have observed that even if I take little, the effect is not always pleasing. But I will not mind taking a few glasses of wine if the benefits you outlined and discussed are true. I am supposed to do a further study to ascertain if these benefits are true or false but adding the source of research that validates these claims would have been perfect. I hope this information is not based on hearsay and customs but on testable scientific research.

I know kidney stones can be controlled by taking plenty of water and I also know that excessive use of alcohol increases the risk of suffering from the illness because of the high rate of purines in beer and grain alcohol. I think it will be better for kidney stone patients to drink just water and avoid alcohol. I have also heard some of my friends claim that drinking beer, especially stouts improved their sexual performance. But I have not experimented with that claim. Nevertheless, I think we should verify this information before using alcohol.
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* Alcohol can protect you from heart attacks.

I read somewhere that moderate drinking can help prevent heart disease.

https://www.webmd.com/heart-disease/heart-disease-alcohol-your-heart#:~:text=Can%20a%20few%20drinks%20really,ounces%20of%2080%2Dproof%20liquor.
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It raises HDL or "good" cholesterol.

It prevents blood from clotting. This can be good or bad. It may hold off heart attacks, but it could make you bleed more easily.

It helps prevent damage caused by high LDL, the "bad" cholesterol.

But they still went further to say that Doctors aren't sure if the benefits are because of the alcohol or the healthy lifestyle of minimal drinkers.
Therefore, if you don't drink, don't start for the sake of your heart. Eating healthy and exercising can do the trick.
And if you already drink too much, don't use the healthy benefits as an excuse because they negative effects outweighs the good.
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I have read before that Red wine has many health benefits of taken in a reasonable quantity and a reasonable frequency.  I recall a documentary film about a person who lived a realively long life because alledgely drank a cup of red wine once a day since was 20 years old.

While it cannot be affordable for all of us, (including me), I still like to drink in special occasions.

I personally like beer and wine, both classic red or sparkling ones.

By the way, I am aware that here in the forum we have many Muslim fellows, who are not allowed to consume alcohol, for obvious reasons. I don't have anything against them. To each their own.  Wink
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The only benefit is to your mental health, not your physical health. Alcohol can lift depression temporarily and lighten the mood of a room, and good for social gathering. Alcohol should be consumed in moderate amount because it can be hazardous to health and damaging to the kidney. Red wines out of the whole category of alcohol is the best choice if you must consume alcohol, but still it still does not have to be abused as some people do very frequently and call it enjoyment. Drink and gamble responsibly.
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Most of our health problems comes from abuse of various substances throughout our lives. Most things considered bad for you can be good and cure many health conditions if used in moderation.
Some examples? Common salt. You need to consume a bit of sodium to stay healthy, otherwise you can even go into a coma. Eat too much salt and you'll have heart problems, high blood pressure, finally, just like with too little sodium, you can fall into a coma.

Pure alcohol is bad for us in general, but it can help endure pain, disinfect wounds, and allow us survive longer in extreme conditions, especially in a situation where you're wounded and need to walk somewhere to get help. Taking a sip of strong alcohol can help you focus. You can read about the famous Dutch courage Wink
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Alcohol usage and consumption has already been extensively discussed in the world today. With so many benefits, the downsides should always be dealt with caution. Alcohol addiction is now the norm, and some people believe that if you don't drink alcohol, you're missing out on a lot of the fun you should be having in this life while you're still alive and healthy.

Many individuals forget the downsides of it and the long-term effects it can have on the immune system and cause utter destruction to some of the body's essential organs when used excessively. I believe that for everything in the world today, there are always pros and downsides, so it is best if we embrace the benefits and stay away from the risks involved in using such substances when they’re too much in the body.

I agree with you that anything like alcohol which can cause addiction can be a very bad thing for our health. The ones who are addicted to alcohol are often found to be less conscious when they are drunk, and I believe that anything that can cause consciousness issue in humans isn't a good thing to consume. Although, we can't ignore that alcohol can have some good pros as well, but its cons are way higher than its pros and that's why someone with proper understanding about health & nutrition would avoid substance like alcohol at any cost.

The long term consumption of alcohol is know to cause many types of cancers and other health issues and anyone who is addicted to drinking can have such kind of diseases in future. The wrong research about some topics has often caused more problems for us humans and because of such wrong information we can lose our health and many other precious things in our lives.
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Alcohol usage and consumption has already been extensively discussed in the world today. With so many benefits, the downsides should always be dealt with caution. Alcohol addiction is now the norm, and some people believe that if you don't drink alcohol, you're missing out on a lot of the fun you should be having in this life while you're still alive and healthy.

Many individuals forget the downsides of it and the long-term effects it can have on the immune system and cause utter destruction to some of the body's essential organs when used excessively. I believe that for everything in the world today, there are always pros and downsides, so it is best if we embrace the benefits and stay away from the risks involved in using such substances when they’re too much in the body.
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BEFORE YOU START READING, KEEP IN MIND THAT I DO NOT RECOMMEND NON-DRINKERS TO START DRINKING. BECAUSE DRINKING IS VERY HARMFUL TO YOUR HEALTH.

Alcohol consumption and addiction are not new in our social life today, but it is also appropriate to state that alcohol is both a tonic and a poison, with the difference being primarily in the dose.

Alcohol is employed in different kinds of festivals, social gatherings, and even for medicinal purposes.  This has raised many questions about the effects of alcohol on every organ in the body.

When alcohol enters the body, approximately 80% of it is absorbed in the small intestine and then released into the bloodstream. When alcohol enters the bloodstream, it is circulated throughout the body by the circulatory system, the heart.

The human liver is in charge of detoxifying methane (alcohol) and eliminating it from the bloodstream. However, the liver can only handle a tiny quantity of alcohol at a time, allowing remainder to circulate throughout the body.

The worst aspect is that it also gets into the central nervous system and brain.

Because of the addictive nature of alcohols, heavy drinking is largely almost irresistible by drinkers, resulting to a variety of diseases as a result of the causes I described above.

This fact has also make the health benefits of drinking at moderate level not well known. However, moderate drinking can be advantageous to human health, as I will demonstrate below:

* Beers can lower the risk of of kidney stones: Beer was found to reduce the risk of kidney stones by 41%.

* Beers strengthen your bones: Beer's high source of silicon content is what's responsible for an increase in bone density.

* Alcohol can protect you from heart attacks.

* Red wines can help fight colds: 8 -14 glasses of wine per week, one could see a 60% reduction in the risk developing a cold.

* Red wines can boost your memory: A compound found in the skin of red grapes can improve memory and cognitive function.
* Beers have vitamins.
* Whisky can cure sore throats.
* Drinking moderately can improve sexual function in men.
* Drinking can also help in Reducing blood clotting.
* Beer can help stop cataracts.

Addiction in the use of alcohol is a topic that we cannot run away from, I suggest we open discussion about this topic for the purpose of educating each other.
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