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Quote from: Don Pedro Dinero on December 19, 2017, 10:30:30 PM

Quote from: man22555 on December 19, 2017, 09:55:35 AM

The best and only way to beat the house is having an infinite balance. In this situation you can use a simple martingale strategy. Isn't it easy? Roll Eyes

Bang on! No, it's not.

If you had infinite money you would be risking it to earn just the initial amount you were trying to win.

If you play black or red and your initial bet is $1, and lose, you would need to double your bet infinite times to earn just $1 (a little bit less actually). I’ve explained this ad nauseam on this forum.

Too much risk for such a low reward.

He was just illustrating how a martin gale system would actually work and win against the house. Generally the house always wins due to the house edge, and the fact is that you have a slight better chance to losing, but that is something enormous statistically. An infinite amount of money will ensure that even if you lost 1,000,000 times and won on the 1,000,001st bet you will have money to bet with. Of course if you have infinite money then you don't really need to gamble, this is just all for illustration.

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Quote from: man22555 on December 19, 2017, 09:55:35 AM

The best and only way to beat the house is having an infinite balance. In this situation you can use a simple martingale strategy. Isn't it easy? Roll Eyes

Bang on! No, it's not.

If you had infinite money you would be risking it to earn just the initial amount you were trying to win.

If you play black or red and your initial bet is $1, and lose, you would need to double your bet infinite times to earn just $1 (a little bit less actually). I’ve explained this ad nauseam on this forum.

Too much risk for such a low reward.

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The house always has an edge value which serves to be the profit. Some gamblers play with some techniques to overcome the edge value and get profited. In most of the events the house will be winning and the same is not because of the house edge, but that is how it happens with gambling.

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Yet we all continue to pump our money in the house usually does win however if you know when to cash out and not get greedy you can make a good profit but it's easier said than done

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Quote from: TheBarMan on December 12, 2017, 11:24:31 PM

You have any method to share for win against the house?

What is the best way for bet and win against the house???

Please comment and let us know about it...

nobody can win against the house of casino or gambling, because i think the bankers of the house are have set a limitation how much money give into the selected player for the winning bet, always i suggest play gambling for fun and set also a limitation for yourself to avoid loses.

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Quote from: TheBarMan on December 12, 2017, 11:24:31 PM

You have any method to share for win against the house?

What is the best way for bet and win against the house???

Please comment and let us know about it...

Well, in long run hose will always will win because of H.E. And you can do nothing with that because of Math probability.

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Quote from: Chris314 on December 19, 2017, 03:15:35 PM

Quote from: man22555 on December 19, 2017, 09:55:35 AM

The best and only way to beat the house is having an infinite balance. In this situation you can use a simple martingale strategy. Isn't it easy? Roll Eyes

No, because every casino has a maximum bet/win amount. If you reach this limit without winning, you won't be able to increase your bet to cover previous losses.

Maybe this man didnt experience to reach out maximum bet/win thing or just didnt able to read out the common rules of a certain gambling site related on this matter. They do really have max bet and max winning amount which is a normal thing for them to implement because if they dont then it would really hurt them or make them bankrupt if theres a lucky person would able to win some huge amount.This is why limits would really be there.

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Quote from: man22555 on December 19, 2017, 09:55:35 AM

The best and only way to beat the house is having an infinite balance. In this situation you can use a simple martingale strategy. Isn't it easy? Roll Eyes

No, because every casino has a maximum bet/win amount. If you reach this limit without winning, you won't be able to increase your bet to cover previous losses.

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Quote from: UnusualMouse on December 19, 2017, 09:08:14 AM

Quote from: Ahalim1 on December 19, 2017, 09:06:03 AM

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There are games without house edge. For example ROULETTE WITH INCREASED PAYOUT 36:1. You can play 50:50 and not to lose for a long time.

Read the rules:

"Payout for the straight-up bet to number is increased to 36 : 1.

This type of roulette was intended as a game with decreased house edge. And really, when playing betting to the numbers only, the casino does not have an advantage before the player. You can easily check it but covering all numbers on the table. To place the bets on each number you will need 37 chips. One bet wins. Win for the straight-up bet to number will be 36 chips plus return of a winning chip. And after the spin you will have the same 37 chips. And though in practice a player bets only on some numbers on the table, this example can show that you can play roulette with increased payout no matter how long, theoretically without losing a cent.

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Maximum bet is given in the table below.

After closing the table independent of the result of the game, all cash from roulette table go to the player’s account without charging additional percents."
https://profit-bitcoin.com/?roulette-casino.html

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The best and only way to beat the house is having an infinite balance. In this situation you can use a simple martingale strategy. Isn't it easy? Roll Eyes

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The problem with gamblers is there's no such thing as enough win for them. That is why they all end up losing more money than winning.

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Quote from: viananda2525 on December 19, 2017, 08:28:58 AM

It's gambling... All you need to win againts the house is luck Any strategies wont work bcause the house always comes out the winner in the end. house or casino is a business not a charitable organization throwing free money away. it has a business model in place designed to ensure its profitability. If you want to win agints house, you should run away when you in and never come back. I have seen many people on some casino has green profit then leave and never cme back. You shuld try to "hit and run" to make profit, but if you don't hit or win at beggining, you shpuld stop playing or just play to enjoy their game.

There are some strategy or method that can work for a short time but is fatal in the long run. such strategy is using martingale and when you won afer series of loses. This will get your lost fund plus extra for winning and you must quit and go home. In this case you won against the house. But if you push your luck and keep on playing, you will lose definitely.

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Quote from: Ahalim1 on December 19, 2017, 09:06:03 AM

Quote from: ajmapalo22 on December 18, 2017, 02:06:10 PM

Having a house edge is one way of those casinos to maintain income to support the winnings of a lot of people who play gambling on their site and I don't think there is any way to win against house edge its only a matter of luck that a person has to win gambling do regardless of any technique when you do gambling there is always a chance that you either win or get loss.

There are games without house edge. For example ROULETTE WITH INCREASED PAYOUT 36:1. You can play 50:50 and not to lose for a long time.

Read the rules:

"Payout for the straight-up bet to number is increased to 36 : 1.

This type of roulette was intended as a game with decreased house edge. And really, when playing betting to the numbers only, the casino does not have an advantage before the player. You can easily check it but covering all numbers on the table. To place the bets on each number you will need 37 chips. One bet wins. Win for the straight-up bet to number will be 36 chips plus return of a winning chip. And after the spin you will have the same 37 chips. And though in practice a player bets only on some numbers on the table, this example can show that you can play roulette with increased payout no matter how long, theoretically without losing a cent.

Minimum bet on the table (inside and outside bets) - 0,1 xBTC.
Maximum bet is given in the table below.

After closing the table independent of the result of the game, all cash from roulette table go to the player’s account without charging additional percents."
https://profit-bitcoin.com/?roulette-casino.html

There is still a cut for the casino owners in every game they have. Don't believe on those rules.

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Quote from: ajmapalo22 on December 18, 2017, 02:06:10 PM

Having a house edge is one way of those casinos to maintain income to support the winnings of a lot of people who play gambling on their site and I don't think there is any way to win against house edge its only a matter of luck that a person has to win gambling do regardless of any technique when you do gambling there is always a chance that you either win or get loss.

There are games without house edge. For example ROULETTE WITH INCREASED PAYOUT 36:1. You can play 50:50 and not to lose for a long time.

Read the rules:

"Payout for the straight-up bet to number is increased to 36 : 1.

This type of roulette was intended as a game with decreased house edge. And really, when playing betting to the numbers only, the casino does not have an advantage before the player. You can easily check it but covering all numbers on the table. To place the bets on each number you will need 37 chips. One bet wins. Win for the straight-up bet to number will be 36 chips plus return of a winning chip. And after the spin you will have the same 37 chips. And though in practice a player bets only on some numbers on the table, this example can show that you can play roulette with increased payout no matter how long, theoretically without losing a cent.

Minimum bet on the table (inside and outside bets) - 0,1 xBTC.
Maximum bet is given in the table below.

After closing the table independent of the result of the game, all cash from roulette table go to the player’s account without charging additional percents."
https://profit-bitcoin.com/?roulette-casino.html

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It's gambling... All you need to win againts the house is luck Any strategies wont work bcause the house always comes out the winner in the end. house or casino is a business not a charitable organization throwing free money away. it has a business model in place designed to ensure its profitability. If you want to win agints house, you should run away when you in and never come back. I have seen many people on some casino has green profit then leave and never cme back. You shuld try to "hit and run" to make profit, but if you don't hit or win at beggining, you shpuld stop playing or just play to enjoy their game.

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I think you will never win in gambling. Example you win 1 btc one time, not knowing you have lost more than that before you win.

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Knowing the game very well and having a strategy to adjust to the house moves will help you beat them in the most possible ocasions, there are professional gambles who make profit from playing and extracting the maximum value out of their moves, but this is not just gambling for fun of course

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This is not true that "the house always wins." The house tends to beat out bad players, but not those who find value in bets.

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Quote from: UnusualMouse on December 17, 2017, 04:59:37 AM

I think all of the online casinos are designed for gamblers to lose. I don't you can win a house through gambling. Even if you win because of greediness you will still end up losing. Try other ways.

You mean to say all casinos are cheating gamblers?

If you think like that then answer is NO because all reputed sites will provide you with an option to verify all your bets whether those bets are fair or not. Since these games results, we can't guess and it depends on luck so you can't win always but may win sometimes. That's you may feel that these casinos are cheating you.

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Having a house edge is one way of those casinos to maintain income to support the winnings of a lot of people who play gambling on their site and I don't think there is any way to win against house edge its only a matter of luck that a person has to win gambling do regardless of any technique when you do gambling there is always a chance that you either win or get loss.

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