The Idea of Bitcoin As A Religion - page 2.

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Quote from: DapanasFruit on August 01, 2021, 10:22:20 PM

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“They always say in times of tragedy and trauma, people turn to God. That is sort of what happened with me. It’s tough to describe the experience, but basically, the best way I can describe it is I went to Bitcoin.”

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Well, have you thought about this idea that Bitcoin can be like a religion too? With some level of fanaticism, there can be people who are considering the Bitcoin community like a cultish one but then again all form of organization in varying degree has this energy and can even be used as a bonding agent. Now, in my opinion, while this idea can be a big welcome to some, this can also turned off those people who are not inclined to take up religious matters into their lives.

What's your opinion on this matter?

Ironically Bitcoin relies on the most basic math and science which relies on proof. That is in my mind the antithesis of religion. Religion relies on blind faith in the words written in stories like the Bible or the Quran, you are meant to follow it without question and in some circles even trying to interpret it differently from how it is preached at you can be dangerous. The blockchain upon which Bitcoin relies is possibly one of the most logical, consistent and transparent systems the world has ever seen - there for all to see but nobody has found a way to break it in the time it has existed. It is pure mathematics in the rawest form and each link builds on years of other links.

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When it comes to religion, there is a lot of take on it and unexplainable scenarios about it tagged mysteries but then, bitcoin has got nothing mystical about it. It's completely open and one can get understanding at any level, asking the right questions and making researches to meet up.
I get it that, having some sort of idea amongst a group of crypto enthusiast would bond them in a way but then, its far from religion because, if you look at it, there are a lot of persons that have varying religion but still, they get to bond in a way. Even at that, bitcoin has never promised anyone anything but then, it lives you to your own level of satisfaction in contrast to religion that promises rewards and punishment based on certain involvements I course of your living. Bitcoin is Jo religion.

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Quote from: DapanasFruit on August 01, 2021, 10:22:20 PM

Well, have you thought about this idea that Bitcoin can be like a religion too? With some level of fanaticism, there can be people who are considering the Bitcoin community like a cultish one but then again all form of organization in varying degree has this energy and can even be used as a bonding agent. Now, in my opinion, while this idea can be a big welcome to some, this can also turned off those people who are not inclined to take up religious matters into their lives.

What's your opinion on this matter?

Honestly, you cant really attach holy or divine things into money and we know that Bitcoin isnt really on that criteria and even how optimistic we are then we shouldnt really let ourselves fall into the belief

on where you do praise up Bitcoin just because of its relevant benefits and opportunities. Holy things is still different specially if we are talking religion.We might share the same impression

as a community towards bitcoin or crypto but doesnt mean that it would be considered as a religion. Why we cant just say that we are just fans rather than talking about religion?

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To worship material elements is heresy. These people are putting money beyond God, what is a serious mistake. The correct is to be thankful to God for the money (bitcoin) they are having the opportunity to earn and grow along the years. Without any doubts it's a great gift to be an early bitcoin adopter and I believe if something like this happens in someone's life it's because God really blessed them or is trying to teach something through it.
But there is a big difference between being thankful for bitcoin or trusting its potential and being a bitcoin believer (in a religious sense).

It reminds that story of the golden calf found in The Bible, which started being worshiped by the israelites when Moses went up to the mount to receive the Ten Commandments. Since he took some time to come back, his people in despair lost hope, patience and started worshiping the golden calf, just like these people worhip Bitcoin now. Ironically bitcoin is sometimes presented as or within a bull, just like the calf statue during the biblical times.

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No, no form of money or pretty much any creation of man can be considered religion. I think this argument is strong enough: Bitcoin does hardly have anything to do with our origins. Yes, it is a creation of the human mind, but not of a God, a superhuman entity. Thus, I conclude that it is foolish to think of Bitcoin as anymore than what it is - a store of value and a method of transferring that value in a trustless, decentralized manner.

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It's too much to associate something that is a tool and then it is used as a dangerous basis for one of the beliefs. You don't have to do all of that in order to take part which you will give up someday. There is no need to make a measuring instrument in terms of Bitcoin and then equate it with God.

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Quote from: DapanasFruit on August 01, 2021, 10:22:20 PM

What's your opinion on this matter?

leave religion in your corner because this subject of religion is something that never ends well when one starts to argue about it, fanaticism is in religion and politics, let's not put religion in bitcoin, bitcoin is an asset that people use to invest or make payments or trade, bitcoin has nothing to do with religion

Quote from: Tigerheart3026 on August 02, 2021, 12:07:57 PM

seriously? even i do not never imagine that to talk about this ridiculous topic.

I also don't understand how OP had the courage to create this meaningless thread

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seriously? even i do not never imagine that to talk about this ridiculous topic. people how to compare between a virtual currency and religion because both of completely different and as human being we believe god who created this world so that we believe a religion.

i have no doubts bitcoin is bless for the modern civilization and we got many benefits in the technology that means you can pretend it's a religion.

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Quote from: rina aulia on August 02, 2021, 09:57:28 AM

Your fanaticism towards bitcoin should be controlled from a normal perspective as people value currency values, it is very misleading to worship currencies and don't overvalue crypto beyond common sense. Bitcoin and religion are very different and have no connection and connection.

I think being too fanatical about Bitcoin is not good, it makes us no longer able to think logically. We must be able to think logically, not because Bitcoin
can make us rich, then equated as a religion. This is a misleading thought, because Bitcoin is just a currency and doesn't teach us how to do good in life.
What we get from Bitcoin does not reflect religion at all, so between Bitcoin and religion is something different.

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Quote from: DapanasFruit on August 01, 2021, 10:22:20 PM

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Bitcoin and religion are different things...

we never thought of fiat as a religion, fiat has a high enough fanaticism and also state support. Bitcoin is an investment currency and asset, people are fanatics of btc because it helps them get out of the bank. Bitcoin is the path of freedom.

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Ah that's why I saw my friend yesterday pray in front of Bitcoin statue / JK.

Bitcoin has changing many people life become rich, no one can see real Bitcoin looks like... what we can see is only transaction, nodes, balance etc, the unknown volatility in the market make people faith in Bitcoin no matter the market goes. Probably those reason behind that's idea.

But it's not enough reason to claim Bitcoin as a religion, since Bitcoin didn't teach about way of life, salvation, ideology, good & bad things and many other things that can't be answered.

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For me, I believe in bitcoin and the future prospect it entails but I have never seen it like religion move. People worship Bitcoin because many people have made huge profits in it can realize how good it has been but religion is too far from it.

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Quote from: DapanasFruit on August 01, 2021, 10:22:20 PM

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Well, have you thought about this idea that Bitcoin can be like a religion too? With some level of fanaticism, there can be people who are considering the Bitcoin community like a cultish one but then again all form of organization in varying degree has this energy and can even be used as a bonding agent. Now, in my opinion, while this idea can be a big welcome to some, this can also turned off those people who are not inclined to take up religious matters into their lives.

Anyone who started Bitcoin from the beginning when there was no value attached to it can claim that they are following the Bitcoin market as a cult, once the valuation started then you cannot call it as a cult because majority are here for the profits and even now the market is changing with years and now big institutional investors are pumping their money in the market and you cannot see the cult following in it other than the money involved and the profit they can make from it .

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Your fanaticism towards bitcoin should be controlled from a normal perspective as people value currency values, it is very misleading to worship currencies and don't overvalue crypto beyond common sense. Bitcoin and religion are very different and have no connection and connection.

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Bitcoin is not religion. If people believe in bitcoin, they do not believe it as a religion but they believe that bitcoin can be strong in the future. I can not imagine what if bitcoin is truly become a religion and how bitcoin will be their god and make them satisfied while bitcoin price still too volatile.

Having fanatic through bitcoin is okay, but we need to realize that humans and bitcoin invent bitcoin is only a tool for people to have a new way to make money through bitcoin.

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religion existed before we were born, religious beliefs have been passed down from our ancestors first, our religious beliefs cannot be exchanged for anything, because religion is a very strong foundation in our lives, I suggest don't enter the idea of bitcoin in religion, bitcoin is a business for us to seek profit, while religion is between us and the creator..

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People with different opinions but the OP should have provided the vital information that touches the point in the article rather than the part that will make people have a negative impression about the article provided by the OP because that's how I feel until reading through the article and I believe it the something that causes the negative impression others have.

Meanwhile, Bitcoin to be a religion which was said in the article is that Bitcoin to be something people will run to for help/financial freedom in the future.

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Quote from: Wexnident on August 01, 2021, 11:20:30 PM

Is stupid. Up to mk4's opinion. Belief shouldn't always equate to it being a religion, since in a sense, religion is something "unexplainable, superhuman" etc., which is to be perfectly honest, used by people to explain the unexplainable. Bitcoin is on the opposite spectrum of that I must say.

Religion isn't just superhuman we here on Earth narrow it to been a sort of superhuman activity. Bitcoin been a religion from @Op view is trying to liken Bitcoin to a sort of human belief system where the turn to a more super being in time of problem. He is trying to point out that Similar scenario can occur for Bitcoin where you turn to it when you are out of finance or have challenges. He also sited people with common knowledge about bitcoin share ideas

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Everyone have got their opinion about bitcoin. Some believe it as an investment, some believe it as a transaction source and some believe it as a payment source and in multiple ways. This way difference of opinion is found over bitcoin. When it comes to religion it is the same. People have difference of belief. This way there is some sort of closeness with the way a religion is seen as well as the bitcoin. For this Bitcoin as a religion is something unwanted.

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I think the essence is different. people being fanatical about bitcoin does not mean bitcoin becomes their religion, but because bitcoin provides real benefits, so maybe whatever people say they will not pay attention to, in religion it prioritizes spiritual needs, this is different from bitcoin which only prioritizes business. on the other hand bitcoin can be manipulated by someone, but will this apply to religion, where its teachings are absolute and inviolable

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