The importance of using different emails for your crypto related activity

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Quote from: bob123 on June 14, 2020, 04:49:20 AM

Usually you can use delimiter for the same main mail address to create sub addresses.
I have my own mail server running, where i can use either + or - to create sub addresses.

I know that googlemail also offers that, not sure about other free mail provider tho.

So with a mail address like [email protected], you can receive mails to [email protected], [email protected], etc..

With that, you can only use one mail address (postbox) for multiple mail addresses. If you'll get a scam/phishing mail, to such a sub address, you'll know who shared/sold your mail address.

That can definitely work too. I personally just pay for email address aliasing features for the extra convenience and organization(along with the privacy advantages of having multiple email addresses). It's pretty much just €1 per month on Tutanota anyway, a very very small price to pay for extra convenience and extra privacy in my opinion.

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Quote from: mk4 on June 13, 2020, 10:10:29 PM

Quote from: tvplus006 on June 13, 2020, 11:11:04 AM

I assume that all the email addresses of bounty hunters who participated in the bounty on this forum are already available in such databases of scammers.

Not necessarily scammers, but online advertisers in general(though more of both).

Creating such online databases is a violation of the privacy of cryptocurrency market participants. Therefore, the collection, storage and use of personal data is a crime. In addition, if your email address has ever been included in such a database, it will be duplicated in others. And that is why you can not use your main email address when participating in various cryptocurrency projects.

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Quote from: mk4 on June 13, 2020, 10:10:29 PM

That, and don't use your personal emails when collecting bounties and/or airdrops. It's not like creating a new email is expensive anyway. Though it's quite a hassle shuffling through multiple emails, it's a great sacrifice in exchange for privacy.

Usually you can use delimiter for the same main mail address to create sub addresses.
I have my own mail server running, where i can use either + or - to create sub addresses.

I know that googlemail also offers that, not sure about other free mail provider tho.

So with a mail address like [email protected], you can receive mails to [email protected], [email protected], etc..

With that, you can only use one mail address (postbox) for multiple mail addresses. If you'll get a scam/phishing mail, to such a sub address, you'll know who shared/sold your mail address.

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Quote from: tvplus006 on June 13, 2020, 11:11:04 AM

I assume that all the email addresses of bounty hunters who participated in the bounty on this forum are already available in such databases of scammers.

Not necessarily scammers, but online advertisers in general(though more of both).

Quote from: tvplus006 on June 13, 2020, 11:11:04 AM

Therefore, the only correct solution is not to click on links from emails that you received to this address.

That, and don't use your personal emails when collecting bounties and/or airdrops. It's not like creating a new email is expensive anyway. Though it's quite a hassle shuffling through multiple emails, it's a great sacrifice in exchange for privacy.

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Quote from: bob123 on June 12, 2020, 12:12:53 PM

Quote from: jossiel on June 12, 2020, 11:51:42 AM

I have witnessed a lot of people complaining how they were hacked due to not activating their 2FAs. It's sad to see them complain although they were warned that it's part of security measures and everyone should apply it.

And at the same time these people use the same device for logging in and 2FA, completely negating the whole purpose of it.

The usage of 2FA for the purpose of using it, is not enough.
You still need to think about the whole purpose of it and how to use it properly i.e. do not use the same device for logging in and generating the 2FA code.

Yes, you're right that the whole purpose of using it must be known by many. But the sad thing is that, many wouldn't dive in to know more about it and at the same time, the application of it should be enforced to them.

They won't use it unless someone educate, notify and remind them that this is important.

Quote from: Nellayar on June 12, 2020, 05:51:33 PM

I do not object regarding the use of real email since I am also using my real name in my primary email address. I use it because I am currently finding a new job. But I have also other email addresses which I used in signing in. I never used my main account in logging in with other sites because I know that my name is at risk.

This is a safe practice, you should only use your main email account for important matters such as business notifications, opportunities and other important stuffs.

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Quote from: minairia3 on June 12, 2020, 07:14:04 AM

Quote from: mk4 on June 12, 2020, 05:09:42 AM

This is why I always recommend using privacy-respecting email clients such as ProtonMail[1] and Tutanota[2]. They're good for privacy, and at the same time, they have email aliasing features so you can point different email addresses onto only one mailbox.

Whats the difference of these services from normal gmail and yahoo services cause they have payment terms?

I agree with OP, I never used my real name when using any crypto related affairs here in forum. Just using mostly my dummy account emails and segregate the personal email to important matters like jobs and family contacts. Thats why most users got have spam mail or phishing sites invites cause they use their own personal email that leads to breach their own bank account and even crypto wallet.

I assume that all the email addresses of bounty hunters who participated in the bounty on this forum are already available in such databases of scammers. Therefore, the only correct solution is not to click on links from emails that you received to this address.

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Quote from: khaled0111 on June 12, 2020, 04:34:39 PM

thank you for the info and for the links, I was looking for an email service supporting this feature and didn't know which one to choose.

Both platforms I suggested, Protonmail and Tutanota are good. Protonmail is more expensive at $5/month(Tutanota at $1/month), but Protonmail mostly has better UI/UX and has a better app.

Quote from: khaled0111 on June 12, 2020, 04:34:39 PM

I wan't to know if after creating the aliases, if it will be possible to remove them or disassociate them from the main account.

Yes. But for example, let's say that you pay for the 5 alias plan on Tutanota. When you remove 1 out of 5 of them, you wouldn't be able to create another alias as you've already used 5 of them(unless you pay for more aliases). This is to prevent people from abusing this feature by just creating and removing as much aliases as they want using the @tutanota.com domain. If you want to easily add and remove aliases without limits, use a custom domain(both platforms support custom domains).

Quote from: khaled0111 on June 12, 2020, 04:34:39 PM

Also, how safe they are privacy-wise? I mean is there anyway someone could link an alias address to the main address?

As far as I know, probably besides the service provider themselves, no.

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I do not object regarding the use of real email since I am also using my real name in my primary email address. I use it because I am currently finding a new job. But I have also other email addresses which I used in signing in. I never used my main account in logging in with other sites because I know that my name is at risk.

We have to be careful with our identity online, we don't where hackers will attack us. And maybe, even a single piece of our identity revealed, it may be a clue for them to find out where our funds hide or where we are in real world.

Internet is full of deception, scammers and hackers. Our security must be our priority because we might be in harm once they know us.

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Using our primary email to complete random offers on internet will always end up resulting in the spam of our inbox and using google has no privacy at all because they are making money by selling our data.So we need to have end to end encryption like proton mail for our primary and crypto-related activities so we have less chance to be hacked unless we give login credentials to someone.

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Having a good strong random password is good, but not everything.
Using a different email is the KEY.
Why? This is because websites are hacked, and the data in email:password or user:pass format is taken by hackers.
So even with a strong password, they already have the username and/or email with password, which they can use to check with other sites.
Ex. BitcoinTalk is hacked and they have your email/username & password. They might cross-reference with CoinBase or other common bitcoin/altcoin wallets.
This is why having different/strong passwords as well as different usernames/emails are VERY important.
How can you check if your email and password got breached? Just go to https://haveibeenpwned.com/ and enter your email to see if your email and password was breached.

Be careful out there guys Wink

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Quote from: mk4 on June 12, 2020, 05:09:42 AM

They're good for privacy, and at the same time, they have email aliasing features so you can point different email addresses onto only one mailbox.

thank you for the info and for the links, I was looking for an email service supporting this feature and didn't know which one to choose.
I wan't to know if after creating the aliases, if it will be possible to remove them or disassociate them from the main account. Also, how safe they are privacy-wise? I mean is there anyway someone could link an alias address to the main address?

Creating a new email for each platform isn't really an option for me. I already have dozens of emails that I don't even remember where I saved their credentials!

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Quote from: Baofeng on June 12, 2020, 03:24:01 AM

It's already June and we have seen many exploits/hacks/breaches already. And we have read in news that hackers are dumping personal information to the public or selling them in the dark market (specially crypto users).

Some of them might be false, however, this is still a threat that is highlighted many times already and as crypto users, we really need to practice safety measures of our own. Below are some of the supposedly data dumps in recent months.

How is this important to us?

These data dumps can be used by hackers by:

they can directly access your crypto account and steal everything from you
worst case scenario, your address is exposed and you can be a target at your physical home
the leak emails can be cross-reference to other data breaches in the past, and it you didn't practice having different strong passwords, they have decrypted it quickly, and can go a process of elimination by logging to different crypto related sites like exchanges and online wallets to get what they want from you

Best practices:

use strong and random password for your different email accounts
use a good password manager
2FA

This is just a reminder, regardless if you are a beginner here or experienced traders. We really need to practice security hygiene to minimise the risk of being hack as these bad actors are really stepping the game every time. Please let me know, I may have missed a lot here, help me update this list.

Beginners Makes So Many Mistakes Regarding Standard Safety And Email Management. Hackers Are Moving Faster Into The Crypto Space InxasNow. The Best Additional Safety Measures To Take Are.
1. Strong Password With Characters And Numbers Of
About 16 Digits.
2. 2FA With Phone Numbers, Google Authy And Email 📧
3. In Case Log In Via Other Users Device In Exchange
Ensure To Clear Out History.

Just My Thoughts

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Quote from: jossiel on June 12, 2020, 11:51:42 AM

I have witnessed a lot of people complaining how they were hacked due to not activating their 2FAs. It's sad to see them complain although they were warned that it's part of security measures and everyone should apply it.

And at the same time these people use the same device for logging in and 2FA, completely negating the whole purpose of it.

The usage of 2FA for the purpose of using it, is not enough.
You still need to think about the whole purpose of it and how to use it properly i.e. do not use the same device for logging in and generating the 2FA code.

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Quote from: Baofeng on June 12, 2020, 03:24:01 AM

2FA

Exchanges and online wallets, 2FA is a must.

I have witnessed a lot of people complaining how they were hacked due to not activating their 2FAs. It's sad to see them complain although they were warned that it's part of security measures and everyone should apply it.

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Quote from: RapTarX on June 12, 2020, 10:17:31 AM

While it's good to use different email for different activity, it's a pain in the ass to manage a long list of email as well. I would rather use a throw away email for most of the activity while for exchanges which I use most, I would use the main email. If you are going to maintain a long list of email, you may miss a lot of important updates which may ruin you too.

Take a look at email aliases. It's for this exact purpose: so you won't need to manage separate emails with each separate login credentials.

Even G Suite has it: https://support.google.com/a/answer/33327?hl=en

but then again, obviously Gmail wouldn't be the perfect pick. Check out Tutanota and Protonmail which both has this nifty feature.

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While it's good to use different email for different activity, it's a pain in the ass to manage a long list of email as well. I would rather use a throw away email for most of the activity while for exchanges which I use most, I would use the main email. If you are going to maintain a long list of email, you may miss a lot of important updates which may ruin you too.

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Quote from: minairia3 on June 12, 2020, 07:14:04 AM

Whats the difference of these services from normal gmail and yahoo services cause they have payment terms?

In summary, Google(which owns Gmail) is a huge-ass data hog. As for Yahoo, it's pretty much spam-ville; and I definitely wouldn't use Yahoo knowing how they handled their past hacking incident.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahoo!_data_breaches
https://whyprivacymatters.org/
https://protonmail.com/blog/protonmail-vs-gmail-security/

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Quote from: mk4 on June 12, 2020, 05:09:42 AM

This is why I always recommend using privacy-respecting email clients such as ProtonMail[1] and Tutanota[2]. They're good for privacy, and at the same time, they have email aliasing features so you can point different email addresses onto only one mailbox.

Whats the difference of these services from normal gmail and yahoo services cause they have payment terms?

I agree with OP, I never used my real name when using any crypto related affairs here in forum. Just using mostly my dummy account emails and segregate the personal email to important matters like jobs and family contacts. Thats why most users got have spam mail or phishing sites invites cause they use their own personal email that leads to breach their own bank account and even crypto wallet.

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Hackers will use this situation to take advantage, many of us are jobless so its easy for them to fool other people by their words, they are so great at doing that thing, most of them are just asking things, or they offer something so people will get interested but by just asking they are also getting some of your personal information which they can use to have access on your account or have ransomware on you.

Great advice from OP, you have to secure your wallet, using strong password will lessen the chance of getting hacked or to avoid everything and have fully secured wallet you may use a hardware wallet, it is the best wallet for us if we really want to store our money safe, an online wallet is really dangerous because it is prone from attacks and is really different from hardware wallet because hackers cannot access something without internet.

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Some of the people today are making a lot of duplicates accounts and before they transfer their funds into their main account but now some of the wallet and exchanges require now a KYC which if you already created a new account just for the dummy to avoid getting directly to your account they already restricted this kind of an action because its looks like a spam account to the exchanges and wallet and one of the best way to do is to use the 2FA or use strong passwords. Passwords with a symbol, number, and upper and lower case letter. I would like to recommend to encrypt your passwords or use a cipher that the only one who can decode is you and this is the most effective one.

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