The inclusion of large, unnecessary images in threads. Opinions?

philipma1957

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Quote from: Upgrade00 on November 20, 2019, 11:41:34 AM

Just checked the poll and majority of people do not give a shit and want people to post the way they want.
In my opinion it is subjective to the topic at hand, infographics with useful information are acceptable. Decorative photos can be okay if it does not clog the post and make it difficult to pick out the actual words. Large embedded images should only be used sparingly and the resolution should not frustrate the loading of a page.
Quoting images of even a large block of text is always unnecessary and makes any thread untidy.

he is missing the choice i would have done.

libert19

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Not that of a big deal on mobile browser(s). Quite possibly, these users posted threads from mobile devices and might not be aware of the pain to desktop users

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Quote from: rosezionjohn on November 21, 2019, 12:58:53 PM

Quote from: friends1980 on November 20, 2019, 12:35:33 PM

However, I have been (successfully) reporting several members who felt the need to quote the entire post - giant image included - in their reply.

Were your reports marked as good, bad, or unhandled?

It's been quite a while now but since most of my Bad reports were because of double reporting, I am quite positive that all of them were removed. Most of them were spammers anyway, which shouldn't come as a surprise as they didn't even make the effort of snipping their gigantic quote...

You'll find very few people who quote the whole OP - image included, with the intent of writing a masterpiece beneath it.

rosezionjohn

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Quote from: friends1980 on November 20, 2019, 12:35:33 PM

However, I have been (successfully) reporting several members who felt the need to quote the entire post - giant image included - in their reply.

Were your reports marked as good, bad, or unhandled?

Jet Cash

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I just put people who do it on ignore.

as9ardia

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Apart from resizing the image manually (changing height and or width manually), it seems like more interesting (and maybe) not to overload the server when loading an image is with image popup script or any similiar else.
So when the user places an image in a thread or comment, the image size automatically becomes small (mm...maybe the size is same as the profile avatar), but when the image is clicked the popup appears to the actual size (or a certain size).

When this idea came to mind there were a few findings that I got.
Highslide Image Viewer

bakasabo

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Maybe there is someone who can write a script that will turn all pictures in to small one with an option to enlarge them with a single click?

I know that this is possible, because users have already made script that makes sending reports and merit more easy.

friends1980

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Those images can be damned annoying but please let's not exaggerate with the rules on this forum...

However, I have been (successfully) reporting several members who felt the need to quote the entire post - giant image included - in their reply.

If you don't have the intelligence of snipping at least the image from your quote, I think this still qualifies as spam, even if your reply isn't necessarily of low quality.

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Quote from: HCP on November 20, 2019, 02:12:12 AM

It isn't so much the original posting of such images that make me most annoyed... it's the ignorant users who blindly click "quote" on the OP and then start typing! Roll Eyes

This. I'd choose humungous images anytime over the pyramid of quotes.

Since this SMF version is from the stone ages, I reckon the new Epochtalk would simply discard the quotes of quotes. God forbid those from returning in 2020.

Upgrade00

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Just checked the poll and majority of people do not give a shit and want people to post the way they want.
In my opinion it is subjective to the topic at hand, infographics with useful information are acceptable. Decorative photos can be okay if it does not clog the post and make it difficult to pick out the actual words. Large embedded images should only be used sparingly and the resolution should not frustrate the loading of a page.
Quoting images of even a large block of text is always unnecessary and makes any thread untidy.

taufik123

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Threads with HD images and more than one will certainly be annoying and loading pages will take longer, especially for members who are keulitas on the internet network. Actually the picture is just a decorative to clarify what is the purpose of the thread. But Quality does not have to be Full HD or large size, the size of the image can be resized specifically for the Forum so as not to make the page thread become heavy.

Example: Mini size for forum 400x200pixel

Size Original 740x493 pixel

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Some people made a similar feature as mods for SMF. The mods removed the image from the quotes, and replaced it with a link, that could be clicked in order to restore the image within the quote (at will). That would be nice here.

https://custom.simplemachines.org/mods/index.php?mod=2430
https://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=373677.0
https://custom.simplemachines.org/mods/index.php?mod=1188

Seemed like a thing in the early years of SMF.

philipma1957

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I merited HCP and DooMAD

As I think 🤔 that:
a) quoting and repeating the image is far worse
b) a solution that prevents a) is great.

As for posting an img as the op of many many posts with many many images i am not really against it.

i really like the vanishing a quoted img idea 💡.

I have been guilty of doing an image quote more then once even though i get annoyed 😠 at other people doing it at times i do it.

to have a piece of code fixing it would be a good improvement.

i would donate 50 usd in a coin of your choice to a coder that helps it get done.

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Quote from: HCP on November 20, 2019, 02:12:12 AM

It isn't so much the original posting of such images that make me most annoyed... it's the ignorant users who blindly click "quote" on the OP and then start typing! Roll Eyes

I forget which forum software it was, but I've definitely been on boards where quoted images are automatically converted to a text link (does anyone still use the word hypertext, or am I showing my age?). Is that a feature people would maybe like implemented here?

rosezionjohn

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From the title itself "unnecessary", it should be annoying Cheesy

I do not really mind if it is just one image, it is placed below the post, and the content is really good. I agree with what others have said though that it is more annoying to see a lot of users quoting that same post, including the image.

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Users listed in the OP have been doing this for a long time, and they do it because they think their posts look better in that way. Unfortunately, they do not think of other users who have low internet speeds and thus make it difficult for them to use the forum.

If they are already uploading pictures, then reduce them to normal size just by using this :

Code:

[img width=1000 height=600]https://i.imgur.com/KrojgnZ.png[/img]

I agree with HCP that there is an even bigger problem in those who quote such posts, and this is a common practice of spammers who thinks their post will look better if they quote OP.

HCP

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It isn't so much the original posting of such images that make me most annoyed... it's the ignorant users who blindly click "quote" on the OP and then start typing! Roll Eyes

So, then you end up re-scrolling through the entire OP... AGAIN... to (generally) see some 1 liner shitpost attached to the end! Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuu... Angry

Personally, I think they need to implement a "how to quote properly" test to allow people to move from Newbie to Jr. Member rank... or actually sign up in the first place Tongue

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Not a fan to the unnecessary images (don't think I have even poster one before) but it seems I'm guilty of the large images, just viewed some of your examples then revisited some of my created threads to cross-check and compared like; The Xenophobic attacks on Africans by South Africans, what's your take on this and Africa Cup of Nation Discussion Thread || Current Phase: Qualification and few others but notice I tried resizing the image as i can see I edited the image with the [width=***] code but in my defense, I'm using a mobile phone to access the forum so I might not be viewing the image as other advance smartphone users or those using a laptop to access the forum are, my bad.

I haven't received much complain also concerning my image size but as I review them it seems they're big. Apart from this one time

Quote from: lobcmt2 on January 30, 2019, 08:23:34 AM

Honestly, I think it will be better if you present your contents in formal text, rather than infographics.
The infographics is hard to see, and space-consumed.

don't think it have ever occured to me, so maybe forum users should inform users regularly when they see this images so we can't adjust in time to make the discussion conducive to everyone.

tranthidung

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If one want to learn how to include images in your posts or adjust image displays in their quotes, I know one good place for them: Wall Observer.
That is a very Mega thread and people posts a lot as well as include lots of images but they know how to do it wisely and don't bother readers' eyes.
See how one of them do that: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.53122716
Original post: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.53120174

There are three ways posters can do when quoting images-included posts:

Using original image-displays in posts they quote: That is not the thing posters should do because they help to spread annoying images.
Adjusting image-displays in posts they quote: That is what posters should do if they still want to let readers that there are images in original posts. Then, if readers want to see original images, click on link to original posts.
Completely cutting annoying images from their quotes: That is most of experienced users do.

I recommend to do the second or third option.

What I presented is for noobs, not experts.

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Quote from: akhjob on November 19, 2019, 02:07:40 PM

Tbh, I don't give a shit regarding the images posted in the forum, I tend to ignore them if they are not necessary. Regardless, these graphics are completely unnecessary and users should avoid posting them when they are not necessary. Anything that is beyond necessary is bad, either it be a huge wall of text or overuse of graphics.

Yeah but having some image with details in it can't be bad right? Like some info on a particular event. I myself posted frequently with image, but solely for the purpose of showing of some direct tutorials and easy instruction for those who will read my post. Yes, sometime it's annoying but for some reason other's like it. Well, I'm speaking for those who like it but for some who dont. I guess they just really annoyed on how the image posted.

I believe image can make youre post nicer but also include the size of it so they won't be annoyed when they reading the wall of text included.

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