Topic: The Legend of Satoshi Nakamato, FINAL STEP PUBLISHED.... 4.87 BTC GRAND PRIZE! - page 12. (Read 108519 times)
February 01, 2018, 02:57:25 PM
February 01, 2018, 02:37:28 PM
I would like to congratulate the winner too!
(if there is a winner, that is)
Well, I am not sure if I should share this, but I have those doubts, it is eating me, and I and so many others invested so much our time in the puzzle, that it had better be cristal clear, and it seems not to be, so maybe I should drop it from my chest... and let others decide.
You see, the corresponding BCH address is not emptied: https://bitinfocharts.com/pl/bitcoin%20cash/address/1FLAMEN6rq2BqMnkUmsJBqCGWdwgVKcegd
But a winner technically savvy enough to solve THAT puzzle must of course realize that about 10% of the prize value is in BCH and about 1% in BTG. Protected by the same private key. The winner must have had a plan to get to all those addresses all at once, before the creators (who know the private key too) could withdraw the founds once they learn one of the addresses is emptied. I know, because it was my plan.
Only a person knowing that nobody else has the key could be reluctant and slow about removing the BCH funds.
So as I said: the situation seems not to be cristal clear. And with so much energy of everybody invested in this puzzle I thought I should share my doubts.
(if there is a winner, that is)
Well, I am not sure if I should share this, but I have those doubts, it is eating me, and I and so many others invested so much our time in the puzzle, that it had better be cristal clear, and it seems not to be, so maybe I should drop it from my chest... and let others decide.
You see, the corresponding BCH address is not emptied: https://bitinfocharts.com/pl/bitcoin%20cash/address/1FLAMEN6rq2BqMnkUmsJBqCGWdwgVKcegd
But a winner technically savvy enough to solve THAT puzzle must of course realize that about 10% of the prize value is in BCH and about 1% in BTG. Protected by the same private key. The winner must have had a plan to get to all those addresses all at once, before the creators (who know the private key too) could withdraw the founds once they learn one of the addresses is emptied. I know, because it was my plan.
Only a person knowing that nobody else has the key could be reluctant and slow about removing the BCH funds.
So as I said: the situation seems not to be cristal clear. And with so much energy of everybody invested in this puzzle I thought I should share my doubts.
Thanks, bud, I forgot about that. Emptied now.
I am glad I could help. Congrats mate! I am glad someone real won this !!!
Well, just in case you found my post useful, you could give me merit proportional to the usefulness of the post
Yay! Will you post a walkthrough?
February 01, 2018, 02:18:05 PM
I would like to congratulate the winner too!
(if there is a winner, that is)
Well, I am not sure if I should share this, but I have those doubts, it is eating me, and I and so many others invested so much our time in the puzzle, that it had better be cristal clear, and it seems not to be, so maybe I should drop it from my chest... and let others decide.
You see, the corresponding BCH address is not emptied: https://bitinfocharts.com/pl/bitcoin%20cash/address/1FLAMEN6rq2BqMnkUmsJBqCGWdwgVKcegd
But a winner technically savvy enough to solve THAT puzzle must of course realize that about 10% of the prize value is in BCH and about 1% in BTG. Protected by the same private key. The winner must have had a plan to get to all those addresses all at once, before the creators (who know the private key too) could withdraw the founds once they learn one of the addresses is emptied. I know, because it was my plan.
Only a person knowing that nobody else has the key could be reluctant and slow about removing the BCH funds.
So as I said: the situation seems not to be cristal clear. And with so much energy of everybody invested in this puzzle I thought I should share my doubts.
(if there is a winner, that is)
Well, I am not sure if I should share this, but I have those doubts, it is eating me, and I and so many others invested so much our time in the puzzle, that it had better be cristal clear, and it seems not to be, so maybe I should drop it from my chest... and let others decide.
You see, the corresponding BCH address is not emptied: https://bitinfocharts.com/pl/bitcoin%20cash/address/1FLAMEN6rq2BqMnkUmsJBqCGWdwgVKcegd
But a winner technically savvy enough to solve THAT puzzle must of course realize that about 10% of the prize value is in BCH and about 1% in BTG. Protected by the same private key. The winner must have had a plan to get to all those addresses all at once, before the creators (who know the private key too) could withdraw the founds once they learn one of the addresses is emptied. I know, because it was my plan.
Only a person knowing that nobody else has the key could be reluctant and slow about removing the BCH funds.
So as I said: the situation seems not to be cristal clear. And with so much energy of everybody invested in this puzzle I thought I should share my doubts.
Thanks, bud, I forgot about that. Emptied now.
I am glad I could help. Congrats mate! I am glad someone real won this !!!
Well, just in case you found my post useful, you could give me merit proportional to the usefulness of the post
February 01, 2018, 02:16:48 PM
All forums try to solve this, but all is unsuccessful. Is there a solution?
February 01, 2018, 02:14:43 PM
February 01, 2018, 02:11:58 PM
I would like to congratulate the winner too!
(if there is a winner, that is)
Well, I am not sure if I should share this, but I have those doubts, it is eating me, and I and so many others invested so much our time in the puzzle, that it had better be cristal clear, and it seems not to be, so maybe I should drop it from my chest... and let others decide.
You see, the corresponding BCH address is not emptied: https://bitinfocharts.com/pl/bitcoin%20cash/address/1FLAMEN6rq2BqMnkUmsJBqCGWdwgVKcegd
But a winner technically savvy enough to solve THAT puzzle must of course realize that about 10% of the prize value is in BCH and about 1% in BTG. Protected by the same private key. The winner must have had a plan to get to all those addresses all at once, before the creators (who know the private key too) could withdraw the founds once they learn one of the addresses is emptied. I know, because it was my plan.
Only a person knowing that nobody else has the key could be reluctant and slow about removing the BCH funds.
So as I said: the situation seems not to be cristal clear. And with so much energy of everybody invested in this puzzle I thought I should share my doubts.
(if there is a winner, that is)
Well, I am not sure if I should share this, but I have those doubts, it is eating me, and I and so many others invested so much our time in the puzzle, that it had better be cristal clear, and it seems not to be, so maybe I should drop it from my chest... and let others decide.
You see, the corresponding BCH address is not emptied: https://bitinfocharts.com/pl/bitcoin%20cash/address/1FLAMEN6rq2BqMnkUmsJBqCGWdwgVKcegd
But a winner technically savvy enough to solve THAT puzzle must of course realize that about 10% of the prize value is in BCH and about 1% in BTG. Protected by the same private key. The winner must have had a plan to get to all those addresses all at once, before the creators (who know the private key too) could withdraw the founds once they learn one of the addresses is emptied. I know, because it was my plan.
Only a person knowing that nobody else has the key could be reluctant and slow about removing the BCH funds.
So as I said: the situation seems not to be cristal clear. And with so much energy of everybody invested in this puzzle I thought I should share my doubts.
Thanks, bud, I forgot about that. Emptied now.
February 01, 2018, 01:22:46 PM
When will you understand that nothing is as it looks? The last tip I can give.
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I'm late! I'm late! For a very important date! No time to say hello, goodbye! I'm late! I'm late! I'm late!
I'm late! I'm late! For a very important date! No time to say hello, goodbye! I'm late! I'm late! I'm late!
But do you understand that I can not say anything directly, reveal the rules of the puzzle? My hints look ordinary, but it breaks the assumptions a bit and shows more than I agree. I have to use puzzles, otherwise I will break the promises given to the creator a few years ago
Follow me because time is short.
There is real fire here.
Real flames.
Something is burning.
Illuminates my path.
This is the right way.
Distinguish the real flames.
There is real fire here.
Real flames.
Something is burning.
Illuminates my path.
This is the right way.
Distinguish the real flames.
To me, white_[ x ] _rabbit == riddle author, with the very direct hint at time running out. In the end even gave a plain text clue. Supports the withdrawal theory, doesn't it?
February 01, 2018, 01:20:09 PM
I'm readying the popcorn for a fountain of salt. Delicious delicious salt.
BTC Address plug, if I helped (which I'm guessing I didn't) I would appreciate even a tiny bit of BTC: 15jfySsb4EbmLqzQvcUDDkqWk54MDoZHUq
BTC Address plug, if I helped (which I'm guessing I didn't) I would appreciate even a tiny bit of BTC: 15jfySsb4EbmLqzQvcUDDkqWk54MDoZHUq
February 01, 2018, 12:59:58 PM
@RealOnTheMF: Sure thing with the 1FLAME, but imagine my millisecond excitment when my (sloppy) success criterion activated...
February 01, 2018, 12:59:48 PM
February 01, 2018, 12:57:17 PM
- For each pale flame passed for flame x, add one to its flame value.
- Guess the right flames at the spaces where leaves point to empty spaces in the outer border (top outer, left inner).
- Ignore the two flames pointed at (2x left outer). Ignore their preceding pale flames.
- Guess the right flames at the spaces where leaves point to empty spaces in the outer border (top outer, left inner).
- Ignore the two flames pointed at (2x left outer). Ignore their preceding pale flames.
Too many fudge steps I think. You may have part of a solution, but many of those steps seems way too far fetched. Who knows, probably putting my foot in my mouth right before the solution gets posted. FYI, getting a "1FLAME" address doesn't indicate you were close to a solution, just random chance and likely the result of a brute force search. Changing one bit in the PK will result in an entirely different address.
February 01, 2018, 12:56:42 PM
Congratulations to who solved it! Now publish a solution I need to see how close I was.
February 01, 2018, 12:52:50 PM
what a coincidence!
right at the day BTC is going down very hard, and many people are (panick)selling.
at that exact day the 1FLAMEN6 puzzle got solved?
right at the day BTC is going down very hard, and many people are (panick)selling.
at that exact day the 1FLAMEN6 puzzle got solved?
February 01, 2018, 12:52:35 PM
Maybe they are waiting for their BCH and BTG wallets to resync after importing the private key before they release the solution. I would.
That's what I was thinking too.
The BTG is still there as well.
http://btgexp.com/address/GYB5mMh3qgdUuq63QiXQcbYARojXUE3Pmx
February 01, 2018, 12:51:27 PM
Maybe they are waiting for their BCH and BTG wallets to resync after importing the private key before they release the solution. I would.
That's what I was thinking too.
well I had all tools prepared before I even started with that puzzle. But you may be right. The very fact that you yourself didn't have all the tools ready either is a very strong defence that all is legit, I definitely have to agree.
I just wanted to get my doubts out from my chest. I did. So there is nothing I would like to add here, for or against what I said. I am glad it is getting clarified.
February 01, 2018, 12:44:16 PM
Maybe they are waiting for their BCH and BTG wallets to resync after importing the private key before they release the solution. I would.
That's what I was thinking too.
February 01, 2018, 12:42:12 PM
Maybe they are waiting for their BCH and BTG wallets to resync after importing the private key before they release the solution. I would.
February 01, 2018, 12:41:10 PM
The flames consist of two parts of different meanings. Part1 are the flames on the outer border clockwise top to left, then inner left top down to the dove's tail. Part2 is the rest of the flame continuing on the way CCW to inner top. This obeys the size bit sequence of 0x1x1x.
The six ribbons attached to the key handle define how to interpret the three bit attributes "inner width", "inner color", "outer color", given that they need to match the first to flames. There are only 2 possibilities, one being very counterintuitive.
Interpret the part1 flames as 3-bit values indicating directions while creating a knight's path through the 9x7 board. Must start on white.
Flame values are to be used as follows:
- Define a starting point on a white field
- Use a separate "dial" of the eight knight's target fields, number them 0-7 in CW fashion.
- The first flame has value f1, so make a first move in direction f1.
- Next flame value f2 must be used to select one of the remaining available directions (excluding blocked ones) - if f2 > the number of possibilities, round robin. Starting point for counting will be your last used direction. If doing it manually, a marker on the "dial" will help. Rinse and repeat.
- For each pale flame passed for flame x, add one to its flame value.
- Guess the right flames at the spaces where leaves point to empty spaces in the outer border (top outer, left inner).
- Ignore the two flames pointed at (2x left outer). Ignore their preceding pale flames.
- Eventually, paths evolve, but leaving three fields open. They can be completed unambiguously.
Given a knight's path K, and a maeander path M, construct a mapping like:
- If input integer s (in 0..63) is taken as the step s of K, it indicates a board field.
- That field has a step number s_m on M.
This is the mapping s -> s_m, K->M.
Always do it twice (learning of the last riddle): Combine two mappings using two different maeander paths. This gives you K->M,K->M' / K->M,M'->K / M->K,K->M' (silly) / M->K,M'->K.
Now interpret the part2 flames pair-wise, yielding 6 bit values of 0 - 62 (how convenient!). Map the values according to the mapping of choice, also counting the number of different leaves touched on the two transient board fields.
Only take mappings into account that touch all 12 board leaves. When mapping the values, omit those which touch two leaves. The remaining base63 values are to be decoded into an integer or hex value. Keep those of length 32.
Collect all those integers and xor them with the dbl_sha of a string concatenation of the very prominent objects in the center. No rabbit there for me. Two of the xored 32-byte values were PKs to "1FLAME..." addresses:
1FLAMEXP5QJ4gghnDTLSTqRLeNCVovE9k6
1FLAMEULgbZKFH6ve9N8AVg3wxpouwNHQc
And that's how far I got - not far enough; not enough times to get all the bugs out of my 1000 lines of python; still too many assumptions, too many parameters spanning the solution space. After having invested ~250 hours since early December, disappointment is huge. The riddle has the fascinating quality of being obvious (once you "saw"), being ambiguous where it (probably) doesn't matter, being truly crypographic (the knight's path is beyond brute force for example). And its difficulty was very much in line with the reward.
To me, the storyline of the puzzle authors revoking the reward because it had gotten far too valuable seems plausible. This forum (being my only lurking place) did not show any progress at all, so someone solving out of the blue? Being faster than me? Incontheivable :-)
Be it as it may, the doubt will remain. As it will with all crypto"currencies", no matter how hard the cheerleaders wiggle.
The six ribbons attached to the key handle define how to interpret the three bit attributes "inner width", "inner color", "outer color", given that they need to match the first to flames. There are only 2 possibilities, one being very counterintuitive.
Interpret the part1 flames as 3-bit values indicating directions while creating a knight's path through the 9x7 board. Must start on white.
Flame values are to be used as follows:
- Define a starting point on a white field
- Use a separate "dial" of the eight knight's target fields, number them 0-7 in CW fashion.
- The first flame has value f1, so make a first move in direction f1.
- Next flame value f2 must be used to select one of the remaining available directions (excluding blocked ones) - if f2 > the number of possibilities, round robin. Starting point for counting will be your last used direction. If doing it manually, a marker on the "dial" will help. Rinse and repeat.
- For each pale flame passed for flame x, add one to its flame value.
- Guess the right flames at the spaces where leaves point to empty spaces in the outer border (top outer, left inner).
- Ignore the two flames pointed at (2x left outer). Ignore their preceding pale flames.
- Eventually, paths evolve, but leaving three fields open. They can be completed unambiguously.
Given a knight's path K, and a maeander path M, construct a mapping like:
- If input integer s (in 0..63) is taken as the step s of K, it indicates a board field.
- That field has a step number s_m on M.
This is the mapping s -> s_m, K->M.
Always do it twice (learning of the last riddle): Combine two mappings using two different maeander paths. This gives you K->M,K->M' / K->M,M'->K / M->K,K->M' (silly) / M->K,M'->K.
Now interpret the part2 flames pair-wise, yielding 6 bit values of 0 - 62 (how convenient!). Map the values according to the mapping of choice, also counting the number of different leaves touched on the two transient board fields.
Only take mappings into account that touch all 12 board leaves. When mapping the values, omit those which touch two leaves. The remaining base63 values are to be decoded into an integer or hex value. Keep those of length 32.
Collect all those integers and xor them with the dbl_sha of a string concatenation of the very prominent objects in the center. No rabbit there for me. Two of the xored 32-byte values were PKs to "1FLAME..." addresses:
1FLAMEXP5QJ4gghnDTLSTqRLeNCVovE9k6
1FLAMEULgbZKFH6ve9N8AVg3wxpouwNHQc
And that's how far I got - not far enough; not enough times to get all the bugs out of my 1000 lines of python; still too many assumptions, too many parameters spanning the solution space. After having invested ~250 hours since early December, disappointment is huge. The riddle has the fascinating quality of being obvious (once you "saw"), being ambiguous where it (probably) doesn't matter, being truly crypographic (the knight's path is beyond brute force for example). And its difficulty was very much in line with the reward.
To me, the storyline of the puzzle authors revoking the reward because it had gotten far too valuable seems plausible. This forum (being my only lurking place) did not show any progress at all, so someone solving out of the blue? Being faster than me? Incontheivable :-)
Be it as it may, the doubt will remain. As it will with all crypto"currencies", no matter how hard the cheerleaders wiggle.
February 01, 2018, 12:37:39 PM
Hopefully we will see how it was solved. Really cool. 5 BTC is a very nice prize!
February 01, 2018, 12:35:07 PM
Congrats to the winner! I'm looking forward to the walk-thru.
I can't understand the hate from some people. The solution will be revealed proving that it was possible for anyone to solve it all this time. I hope you don't infect others IRL with your self hatred, self loathing, blame everyone but yourself attitude.
Sheesh. Taylor Swift was right....haters gonna hate ('cause that's all they know, I guess)
I can't understand the hate from some people. The solution will be revealed proving that it was possible for anyone to solve it all this time. I hope you don't infect others IRL with your self hatred, self loathing, blame everyone but yourself attitude.
Sheesh. Taylor Swift was right....haters gonna hate ('cause that's all they know, I guess)
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