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I stumbled upon random news while browsing, and it uses this article as a citation: https://gamblingguidelines.ca/lower-risk-gambling-guidelines/what-are-the-guidelines/


It's a gambling guideline newsletter, the author is short of saying that you need to stop gambling, 4 times a month and 1% of household income, is this even possible can you do this, I can't do this its hard to follow this guide if gambling is your escape or a form of relaxation, you don't deprive yourself of something that will entertain you its ok to allocate but 1% is not realistic, 5% is still ok and if you have extra income then it could be more, I wonder if anyone of us here can follow that 1% household income allocation for gambling.
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Wow these are some strange guidelines and don't look appropriate to someone who enjoys gambling. They seem more like limitations from someone who has no interest in gambling, rather than a gambling enthusiast who tries to make some general guidelines to enjoy gambling long term. It's good to have rules that give us guidance, but they should be build around or own personal preference, not general rules.

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Guideline 1: Gamble no more than 1% of household income
Don't bet more than 1% of your household income before tax per month. For example, someone with a household income of $70,000 before tax should gamble no more than $58 per month.

This seems way to conservative. I like the approach to have a fixed budget each month for gambling. I am doing the exact same thing and split it down to have a balance for each week. But 1% is too little, if you make 70k USD per year and can only use $58 per month for gambling? That is less than $15 per week. How will this lead to anything if you have a good night? Lets say you are lucky and make 150% in the night, that is not even $50.

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Guideline 2: Gamble no more than 4 days per month

Why 4 days? This seems like a arbitrary number. I don't think this limitation is really needed since you already have a fixed budget for each week. To me it seems like a better approach to fix your maximum possible loss each week and then decide on our own when and how much we gamble. If we have a busy day and can only gamble for 15 minutes a night than we should be able to gamble multiple days per week. I would not make such big restrictions.

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Guideline 3: Avoid regularly gambling at more than 2 types of games

What is the reason behind this one? I like the variety at casinos and want to use it. If you know the games well and used to play them in the past, why not mix them during a night? Some nights I really enjoy Black Jack and don't want to play anything else, and then I have nights were I just want to play some slots and some dice games. Especially when I have a losing streak it helps me to switch games and try to recover. There are too many different casinos games for me to limit myself to just 2.
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I don't follow any stat, gambling is a form of entertainment and this is something you have to pay the price within your allocated means, you are going to pay for it if you want to enjoy it, you should be the one to allocate money that you can afford to lose because you know what is your risk level if you are a responsible gambler, I don't think can easily be followed by anyone even those who strictly followed their gambling regimen.
That's good. At least you already know how to treat gambling and can accept whatever results you get from gambling. But it's not easy to accept because many other gamblers still continue to allocate another amount of money to play gambling even though they have experienced a lot of losses. We should be responsible gamblers to monitor how much money we have used and will not follow our passion for playing gambling.
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I don't follow any stat, gambling is a form of entertainment and this is something you have to pay the price within your allocated means, you are going to pay for it if you want to enjoy it, you should be the one to allocate money that you can afford to lose because you know what is your risk level if you are a responsible gambler, I don't think can easily be followed by anyone even those who strictly followed their gambling regimen.
Don't mind anyone trying to lure people into some scheme, they always have their vices. It is until the person enters that he/she would know that gambling is not what could be followed strictly as some tabulate or propose it.

Personally, I believe that gambling is a form of entertainment as you expressed, but the reality is that many could still be engrossed/addicted to it. That is where good planning comes in, but no plan should be 100% fixed, it should not be too stringent to a particular rule, but could be random with a low budget that the player will strictly adhere to.
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I don't follow any stat, gambling is a form of entertainment and this is something you have to pay the price within your allocated means, you are going to pay for it if you want to enjoy it, you should be the one to allocate money that you can afford to lose because you know what is your risk level if you are a responsible gambler, I don't think can easily be followed by anyone even those who strictly followed their gambling regimen.
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Some people doesnt really feel out some excitement when it doesnt really involved money thats why they do really end up on engaging with gambling because of this intent.Some does really have
good self control and some doesnt really have this kind of discipline which do really ends up on spending more.1% in overall salary or income wont really be bad thing but just what
been said by most people about spending 1% wont really be that enough for you to justify on the leisure or entertainment you do seek off thats why
ending up on spending more which it isnt that surprising.
Yep, most of the people are being tempted to bet more because other people are betting higher as well, without money or anything in return will not give thrill to any game that we are playing. Most of the people who spend a lot more than their salary are those people want to earn more or have more money to support their needs I just remember my uncle, until now he is doing the same thing.

I guess we can say that they are pressured by the people around them who bet with high amount if they are also tempted to do the same. Perhaps this have some sort of connection to FOMO because they don't want to be left out betting with small amount only. This isn't really a good thing if they will continue doing it without thinking about the consequences. Because as much as they want to be in the same page, if they can't afford to lose the money they are betting, the more painful it will be if they lost it.

Risk management is really essential as well as critical thinking skills. You shouldn't just impulsively bet just because you see others doing the same.
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Some people doesnt really feel out some excitement when it doesnt really involved money thats why they do really end up on engaging with gambling because of this intent.Some does really have
good self control and some doesnt really have this kind of discipline which do really ends up on spending more.1% in overall salary or income wont really be bad thing but just what
been said by most people about spending 1% wont really be that enough for you to justify on the leisure or entertainment you do seek off thats why
ending up on spending more which it isnt that surprising.
Yep, most of the people are being tempted to bet more because other people are betting higher as well, without money or anything in return will not give thrill to any game that we are playing. Most of the people who spend a lot more than their salary are those people want to earn more or have more money to support their needs I just remember my uncle, until now he is doing the same thing.
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Playing before bed when you are already lying in bed with a smartphone seems like a convenient option to play for half an hour or an hour, but from my own experience I can say that gambling can throw me off balance (win or lose) and eventually I will have trouble falling asleep. In my youth this was not a problem, but now I have to take it into account. It's quite funny how age and marital status affect our attitude towards gambling.

that's because you need a balanced brain chemistry to sleep
usually serotonin is transformed into melatonin that makes you feel relaxed and asleep
gambling will usually flood your brain with exciting neurotransmitters, it can definitely ruin a good night of sleep

I know very well the chemistry behind it all. The problem is that we can't do anything about it and end up back where we started - it's not easy for a family man to find time to gamble. And the advices in the first post that seems absurd to some people (who are obviously freer than family people) actually makes sense.

It would be great if that happened to me. I would actually avoid playing before bed. because I was worried that I would lose the game and it made me want to keep playing. When I'm not in control, then I will make more deposits, and this will bother me even more to be able to tide comfortably. This is what I experienced, of course it will different from what was experienced by other members in this forum.

Do you mean changing marital status or not gambling before bed? I didn't understand what you want. In fact, I don't even know what to achieve easier, haha.

there's always the option of taking a break from gambling or not gambling at all
in the end there are so many healthy hobbies to pursue other than wasting money for a little bit of excitement and very little chance of earning more
Some people doesnt really feel out some excitement when it doesnt really involved money thats why they do really end up on engaging with gambling because of this intent.Some does really have
good self control and some doesnt really have this kind of discipline which do really ends up on spending more.1% in overall salary or income wont really be bad thing but just what
been said by most people about spending 1% wont really be that enough for you to justify on the leisure or entertainment you do seek off thats why
ending up on spending more which it isnt that surprising.
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hmph..
Do you mean changing marital status or not gambling before bed? I didn't understand what you want. In fact, I don't even know what to achieve easier, haha.

Haha, sorry if it confused you. I didn't mention marital status at all in my previous post. Everything is clear about gambling, playing before bed it doesn't mean a sexual or something else, but its about playing a slots or any gambling games. and in another posts, what i mean, bringing a more relaxed mind can be with many things, and it's not about marriage either. Can watch tv, watching some funny videos or something that making as far away from gambling before sleeping. i wish this is more clear and you can understand what i mean.  Tongue
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There's no need to be upset
Playing before bed when you are already lying in bed with a smartphone seems like a convenient option to play for half an hour or an hour, but from my own experience I can say that gambling can throw me off balance (win or lose) and eventually I will have trouble falling asleep. In my youth this was not a problem, but now I have to take it into account. It's quite funny how age and marital status affect our attitude towards gambling.

that's because you need a balanced brain chemistry to sleep
usually serotonin is transformed into melatonin that makes you feel relaxed and asleep
gambling will usually flood your brain with exciting neurotransmitters, it can definitely ruin a good night of sleep

I know very well the chemistry behind it all. The problem is that we can't do anything about it and end up back where we started - it's not easy for a family man to find time to gamble. And the advices in the first post that seems absurd to some people (who are obviously freer than family people) actually makes sense.

It would be great if that happened to me. I would actually avoid playing before bed. because I was worried that I would lose the game and it made me want to keep playing. When I'm not in control, then I will make more deposits, and this will bother me even more to be able to tide comfortably. This is what I experienced, of course it will different from what was experienced by other members in this forum.

Do you mean changing marital status or not gambling before bed? I didn't understand what you want. In fact, I don't even know what to achieve easier, haha.

there's always the option of taking a break from gambling or not gambling at all
in the end there are so many healthy hobbies to pursue other than wasting money for a little bit of excitement and very little chance of earning more
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Playing before bed when you are already lying in bed with a smartphone seems like a convenient option to play for half an hour or an hour, but from my own experience I can say that gambling can throw me off balance (win or lose) and eventually I will have trouble falling asleep. In my youth this was not a problem, but now I have to take it into account. It's quite funny how age and marital status affect our attitude towards gambling.

that's because you need a balanced brain chemistry to sleep
usually serotonin is transformed into melatonin that makes you feel relaxed and asleep
gambling will usually flood your brain with exciting neurotransmitters, it can definitely ruin a good night of sleep

I know very well the chemistry behind it all. The problem is that we can't do anything about it and end up back where we started - it's not easy for a family man to find time to gamble. And the advices in the first post that seems absurd to some people (who are obviously freer than family people) actually makes sense.

It would be great if that happened to me. I would actually avoid playing before bed. because I was worried that I would lose the game and it made me want to keep playing. When I'm not in control, then I will make more deposits, and this will bother me even more to be able to tide comfortably. This is what I experienced, of course it will different from what was experienced by other members in this forum.

Do you mean changing marital status or not gambling before bed? I didn't understand what you want. In fact, I don't even know what to achieve easier, haha.
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Every gambler has their own gambling habit so it would feel like someone is dictating you how to gamble properly. As long as he does it in moderation and his other financial responsibilities are not being compromised then there is no reason to limit your budget which will just reduce their satisfaction if they follow those guidelines..
I have to agree to that.

About the last part that you're not compromising the other financial obligations that you have. Whether you gamble daily with two or more games, as long as you're not touching and neglecting your financial duties then that's okay.

Somethings might work for you and could be better if you just follow what you think is the right thing to do. From being a newbie, take any advise that could seem to be focused on giving a thought of being careful as a gambler and is trying to help you to be in a harmless situation.
When we gamble, we don't spend money alone but we are also spending our time with it. Both of these should not be compromised only because of gambling. You can say that you already set aside the money for the bills, groceries and etc but if you haven't bonded with your wife or family then I think you should refrain from gambling first because they are more important than it.

We think gambling is more fun but once you are done with it, the regret can come later on when you see that your wife and kids are feeling sad. If you are single then your rules are the ones that must be followed but if not then you should listen to your family.
There are people and husbands that would just like to provide for their family. And it's part of it that we should bond with our family and wife. It has a point that before you do things like gambling, make sure that you have allotted time for your family.

But, it could also be reversed that you gamble first and when you had a bad day like you're in a losing streak. There is your family waiting for you and they're going to be your stress reliever.

Sometimes or probably most of the times, that's what many gamblers do when they're stressed and on a continuous losing streak.
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Every gambler has their own gambling habit so it would feel like someone is dictating you how to gamble properly. As long as he does it in moderation and his other financial responsibilities are not being compromised then there is no reason to limit your budget which will just reduce their satisfaction if they follow those guidelines..
I have to agree to that.

About the last part that you're not compromising the other financial obligations that you have. Whether you gamble daily with two or more games, as long as you're not touching and neglecting your financial duties then that's okay.

Somethings might work for you and could be better if you just follow what you think is the right thing to do. From being a newbie, take any advise that could seem to be focused on giving a thought of being careful as a gambler and is trying to help you to be in a harmless situation.
When we gamble, we don't spend money alone but we are also spending our time with it. Both of these should not be compromised only because of gambling. You can say that you already set aside the money for the bills, groceries and etc but if you haven't bonded with your wife or family then I think you should refrain from gambling first because they are more important than it.

We think gambling is more fun but once you are done with it, the regret can come later on when you see that your wife and kids are feeling sad. If you are single then your rules are the ones that must be followed but if not then you should listen to your family.
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hmph..
I do have that kind of experience before going to bed then i do play gambling which it is really something that would be disruptive specially when you do lose a big amount.
Instead on having a good sleep you would rather be stressing out yourself which would really be that not a good thing to have before you do sleep this is why i avoid on doing this.When im going to bed
then im trying out my best on distracting myself via social media and it is really better rather than making yourself get involved with gambling which
it would really be giving that negative experience.
Well, diverting attention to something else before bed will be much more relaxing for me than gambling. Because, I once tried to gamble in the mid night because i read in the Slots 101: Basics, Strategies, and Discussion (with poll) thread someone once said that the live RTP pragmatic was in the range of 23:00 - 05:00 (even not guarantee have a good results, but i trying it), at that time I wanted to tried 10x buy free spins and promises to stop, but I lost and finally I didn't sleep trying to get the win and play with multiple deposit.  Grin
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There's no need to be upset
Playing before bed when you are already lying in bed with a smartphone seems like a convenient option to play for half an hour or an hour, but from my own experience I can say that gambling can throw me off balance (win or lose) and eventually I will have trouble falling asleep. In my youth this was not a problem, but now I have to take it into account. It's quite funny how age and marital status affect our attitude towards gambling.

It would be great if that happened to me. I would actually avoid playing before bed. because I was worried that I would lose the game and it made me want to keep playing. When I'm not in control, then I will make more deposits, and this will bother me even more to be able to tide comfortably. This is what I experienced, of course it will different from what was experienced by other members in this forum.


there are some studies that says that power of choice goes down after you made a lot of decisions along the day
so this would make complete sense
it'd be easier to resist an urge right after waking up than right before sleeping
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Every gambler has their own gambling habit so it would feel like someone is dictating you how to gamble properly. As long as he does it in moderation and his other financial responsibilities are not being compromised then there is no reason to limit your budget which will just reduce their satisfaction if they follow those guidelines..
I have to agree to that.

About the last part that you're not compromising the other financial obligations that you have. Whether you gamble daily with two or more games, as long as you're not touching and neglecting your financial duties then that's okay.

Somethings might work for you and could be better if you just follow what you think is the right thing to do. From being a newbie, take any advise that could seem to be focused on giving a thought of being careful as a gambler and is trying to help you to be in a harmless situation.
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Of course each of us decides for himself how much money he is ready to spend on gambling, but I think that restrictive measures are necessary in everything. Besides these recommendations are mostly aimed at minimization of expenses and time spent at gambling sites, which in its turn contributes to reduction of risks of gambling addiction. 
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IMO it's useless advice. Even if a gambler plays many types of games, it won't matter as long as he knows the limit, guidelines 1 & 2.

What do you think?

Those guidelines are definitely useless. Every gambler has their own gambling habit so it would feel like someone is dictating you how to gamble properly. As long as he does it in moderation and his other financial responsibilities are not being compromised then there is no reason to limit your budget which will just reduce their satisfaction if they follow those guidelines..
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However if this guideline is solely created to newbie, I think the best title should be "Don't gamble unless your income reach millions dollar per year".  Grin

Such a joke that newbies will find not funny. Newbies are culprit of high gambling because they see every chance to gamble as opportunity to make profit and so they won't have to wait to take a bet until they exhausted all that money with them. Sometimes the advise of betting moderately sounds like it is mere news , newbies will not keep to that and that wouldn't make their income reach millions because of losses  Grin

What you have said is not only applicable with the newbies. I've seen guys around here who has been in gambling world for quite a long time already. They may have won at some point, but the losses they spent is a countless bucks, probably millions already.
I might say, those who gambles moderately, newbies or not are lucky to have a good self control and discipline.
Nevertheless, we're not only talking about newbies here, but also those who gambles until their pocket gets exhausted, regularly.
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I read in an article that elderly people before they die most of all regret that they spent little time with their families, tried to spend more time earning money, and had little rest. I am not in the habit of gambling very often, besides I believe that the more often a person gambles, the more likely he will become a gambling addict. It is enough for me two or three gambling sessions a month. I try to devote time to my family on a daily basis, but because of work it is not always possible.
Yes, that's correct. Many of them regret not being able to spend their time with their families and in the end, the family relations between them are not well established.
We can do anything out there that has nothing to do with going out but in the end, we will come back home, where all our families come together.
You have done the best you can by not gambling too often and we should all try like you to avoid possible gambling addiction.
And we also need to devote time to family daily and make the best of it.
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