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legendary
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things you own end up owning you
July 02, 2013, 04:38:01 AM
#24
Apple had a better operating system than Microsoft, but Windows took 90% of the market.

Betamax was better than VCR, but Betamax wasn't widely adopted.

Bitcoin is the brand name in the space. The coins have no intrinsic value except market acceptance. So being in the leader position is huge. Most of the ecosystem is being built for bitcoin, not the alt currencies.

Perhaps LTC stands a chance of being a complementary currency.

And do you know the reason WHY ms-dos/windows took more market share than mac?

They didnt try to take the hardware as well, and thus had THIRD PARTIES selling their OS for them.

Do you know how I learned about bitcoin? Not by meeting a bitcoin miner, not by visiting btc-e and checking the exchange rate, but by needing an alternative to libertyreserve, visiting a Third Party merchant website, and seeing that they gave a discount if you bought with bitcoins.

All the alt coins are crap because they arent the standard. As if it isnt hard enough to start a fucking currency with no government or traditional financial support people have to go around bickering over whether to use scrypt or sha. Really? Its practically the same, just take the first one so cryptocurrency critics cant turn around when litecoin or whatever coin and say "itll die out just like bitcoin" and work together for once in our fucking lives and make something actually happen. Dont bitch and try to be hipsters among a group of hipsters and use an alt coin just for the sake of being a hipster.

If ANYTHING can kill cryptocurrencies as a concept, its the introduction of too many of them. Plz stop it already and try to aid the one cryptocurrency that has the greatest chance od success because its actually, you know, USED.

how many Bitcoins do you have?

 it is funny when I see Bitcoiners bitching about LTC, just because you do not own them this doesn't mean they are likely a scam or they will die, let the market decides, the same as it did with Bitcoin.

and yes If i see any coin that brings some innovation I will support it. at least I have choices.


Bitcoiners are becoming communist, with this ideology of one thing and nothing else, it was the same in my country, if you wanted to buy a car you had only one model, buy it or shut up because other brands were evil, we had only one thing of everything and now you are pushing this ideology over which will lead to killing all coins.

let people chose what to use.  
full member
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Merit: 100
July 02, 2013, 02:50:18 AM
#23
Apple had a better operating system than Microsoft, but Windows took 90% of the market.

Betamax was better than VCR, but Betamax wasn't widely adopted.

Bitcoin is the brand name in the space. The coins have no intrinsic value except market acceptance. So being in the leader position is huge. Most of the ecosystem is being built for bitcoin, not the alt currencies.

Perhaps LTC stands a chance of being a complementary currency.

And do you know the reason WHY ms-dos/windows took more market share than mac?

They didnt try to take the hardware as well, and thus had THIRD PARTIES selling their OS for them.

Do you know how I learned about bitcoin? Not by meeting a bitcoin miner, not by visiting btc-e and checking the exchange rate, but by needing an alternative to libertyreserve, visiting a Third Party merchant website, and seeing that they gave a discount if you bought with bitcoins.

All the alt coins are crap because they arent the standard. As if it isnt hard enough to start a fucking currency with no government or traditional financial support people have to go around bickering over whether to use scrypt or sha. Really? Its practically the same, just take the first one so cryptocurrency critics cant turn around when litecoin or whatever coin and say "itll die out just like bitcoin" and work together for once in our fucking lives and make something actually happen. Dont bitch and try to be hipsters among a group of hipsters and use an alt coin just for the sake of being a hipster.

If ANYTHING can kill cryptocurrencies as a concept, its the introduction of too many of them. Plz stop it already and try to aid the one cryptocurrency that has the greatest chance od success because its actually, you know, USED.
legendary
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July 01, 2013, 06:13:34 PM
#22
Yes, go and buy the scamcoin valued at 13% of Bitcoin already. This cannot possibly go wrong. Cheesy

wow the *HAT* is strong against  LTC
legendary
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July 01, 2013, 12:30:56 PM
#21
Every BTC traded for LTC keeps the cash reserved for other folks.

That said I hope LTC goes as high as possible. Wink
N12
donator
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July 01, 2013, 12:25:35 PM
#20
Yes, go and buy the scamcoin valued at 13% of Bitcoin already. This cannot possibly go wrong. Cheesy

By market cap LTC only has 5.5% of Bitcoin's total value.
Longer term, Litecoin has 4x the money supply, so I'm calculating with that in mind.

Sure, you can play the Greater Fool Theory. But I wouldn't add it and sit on it for months or years.
legendary
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July 01, 2013, 12:24:46 PM
#19
Yes, go and buy the scamcoin valued at 13% of Bitcoin already. This cannot possibly go wrong. Cheesy

By market cap LTC only has 5.5% of Bitcoin's total value.
member
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July 01, 2013, 12:24:27 PM
#18
Yes, go and buy the scamcoin valued at 13% of Bitcoin already. This cannot possibly go wrong. Cheesy

Hey, if you can catch the right side of it, you can make a tasty 20% profit between LTC and BTC in 24 hours. Managed that today.

Long term sustainability of 3 dollars per LTC.... nah. We might see a spike to $5 if it makes it to MTGox but too risky.
N12
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July 01, 2013, 12:22:11 PM
#17
Yes, go and buy the scamcoin valued at 13% of Bitcoin already. This cannot possibly go wrong. Cheesy
legendary
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July 01, 2013, 12:19:40 PM
#16
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The 24 hour volume for LTC is well over 1M USD right now (MORE than the 24 hour volume of BTC/USD at mtgox) and the LTC economy seems healthier than ever

Well, it is not an economy sign at all.
It should read "the LTC speculation seems more vivid than ever".
EDIT: the economy is: merchants and services using LTC as a payment method.

The Litecoin economy is people buying or selling Litecoin, speculators included.  You don't walk into Safeway and trade 5 gold doubloons for a crate of steaks, but people are still trading gold speculatively every day and it has definite value.

In the meantime, the price looks set to explode as people bail out of Bitcoin for the time being.


ltc-charts.com
legendary
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July 01, 2013, 06:13:29 AM
#15
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The 24 hour volume for LTC is well over 1M USD right now (MORE than the 24 hour volume of BTC/USD at mtgox) and the LTC economy seems healthier than ever

Well, it is not an economy sign at all.
It should read "the LTC speculation seems more vivid than ever".
EDIT: the economy is: merchants and services using LTC as a payment method.

a portion of it is true, some say it support about $30 BTC price.

the inchoate future potential is a large part of the value, not wanting to miss out on this, is driving the speculation and value.

CC's are better than a tele-portation system for gold
sr. member
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Merit: 250
July 01, 2013, 06:02:19 AM
#14
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The 24 hour volume for LTC is well over 1M USD right now (MORE than the 24 hour volume of BTC/USD at mtgox) and the LTC economy seems healthier than ever

Well, it is not an economy sign at all.
It should read "the LTC speculation seems more vivid than ever".
EDIT: the economy is: merchants and services using LTC as a payment method.
member
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Merit: 10
July 01, 2013, 04:17:36 AM
#13
CC = credit card

Hate to be THAT guy but...
CC in this case is Crypto currency. Check the first post.
sr. member
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July 01, 2013, 04:13:00 AM
#12
CC = credit card
legendary
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July 01, 2013, 02:02:59 AM
#11
First of all, wtf is CC?

Now, what seems interesting is that LTC has gone UP UP UP while BTC went DOWN DOWN DOWN. Usually LTC has been going the same direction as BTC but now it's different. Anyone knows why this could be the case?

Since I invested in LTC I've been in an opinion that whatever the eventual real price of BTC is, LTC's price has to be 4x lower (assuming they are both mature and everyone knows them).

So let's say BTC is currently overrated and its real value is 50$ per bitcoin. In that case LTC is still undervalued because 50/4 =12.5. This means that LTC has to go UP while BTC has to go down. Now one could say that there are other alt coins that consume some of the value but then again there aren't many to be taken seriously currently.

CC = Crypto Currency
legendary
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July 01, 2013, 01:55:08 AM
#10
First of all, wtf is CC?

Now, what seems interesting is that LTC has gone UP UP UP while BTC went DOWN DOWN DOWN. Usually LTC has been going the same direction as BTC but now it's different. Anyone knows why this could be the case?

Since I invested in LTC I've been in an opinion that whatever the eventual real price of BTC is, LTC's price has to be 4x lower (assuming they are both mature and everyone knows them).

So let's say BTC is currently overrated and its real value is 50$ per bitcoin. In that case LTC is still undervalued because 50/4 =12.5. This means that LTC has to go UP while BTC has to go down. Now one could say that there are other alt coins that consume some of the value but then again there aren't many to be taken seriously currently.
legendary
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Merit: 1023
July 01, 2013, 01:15:53 AM
#9
The next few weeks will be interesting; as I said before

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The 24 hour volume for LTC is well over 1M USD right now (MORE than the 24 hour volume of BTC/USD at mtgox) and the LTC economy seems healthier than ever

further, the LTC DEV team with Warren at the helm, the last piece of the puzzle missing for LTC, it now has a credible known DEV.
legendary
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July 01, 2013, 12:41:35 AM
#8
The next few weeks will be interesting; as I said before

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The 24 hour volume for LTC is well over 1M USD right now (MORE than the 24 hour volume of BTC/USD at mtgox) and the LTC economy seems healthier than ever
hero member
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June 30, 2013, 11:34:37 PM
#7
The network effect is indeed strong, but not impossible to overcome. Thing about the marketshare ICQ had before Messenger came along, and then Skype.
member
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June 30, 2013, 11:29:48 PM
#6
Apple had a better operating system than Microsoft, but Windows took 90% of the market.

Betamax was better than VCR, but Betamax wasn't widely adopted.

Bitcoin is the brand name in the space. The coins have no intrinsic value except market acceptance. So being in the leader position is huge. Most of the ecosystem is being built for bitcoin, not the alt currencies.

Perhaps LTC stands a chance of being a complementary currency.

That is one analogy that I have not thought of.
member
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Merit: 10
June 30, 2013, 11:15:17 PM
#5
Apple had a better operating system than Microsoft, but Windows took 90% of the market.

Betamax was better than VCR, but Betamax wasn't widely adopted.

Bitcoin is the brand name in the space. The coins have no intrinsic value except market acceptance. So being in the leader position is huge. Most of the ecosystem is being built for bitcoin, not the alt currencies.

Perhaps LTC stands a chance of being a complementary currency.
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