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January 11, 2024, 01:02:16 PM
Addicted people don't understand how to stop their addiction so if they experience more and more losses it will increase their pressure to continue gambling to chase their losses, so it's not surprising that some of their families hate the gambler's behavior, it's not surprising that their family abandons them because addiction itself is very annoying. Especially if they has no intention of stopping and has a temperamental nature that is certain of course his family will leave him alone.

It's true, people who are very addicted to gambling even can forget about their homes. In my country there are no official offline casinos, there is only gambling done by people when they gather in one place or just gambling on cockfights. From this habit, they are even spend too long time outside with their gambling friends. No time for his family, let say from 7 - 4, they are working, when working day is over, they are just going to take a bath and back to their gambling friends. There was even one case where a husband and wife quarreled in front of my house, this happen after divorcing because his wife didn't want to accept him anymore. Hopefully all of us on this forum don't experience something similar. We should be able to learn to control ourselves even though we are addicted to gambling, but we still have to remember all our families.

Not far to happened if you only care about gambling and no longer capable to provide the needs of your family, not only for financial but more on the presence of being a husband,  gambling addiction can create situation like this, where the wife will no longer accept after being there for his husband but nothing is changing,  if the person is already drunkly addicted his mindset is all for his gambling plans and nothing else.
Yep that type situations comes in a gambler life. I seen in my country some illiterate people are playing physical gambling they play poker. They just play to earn the don't give time family they don't thik about family they don't try to complete their family daily needs. When they faces losses they force their family for money. They rudely behave with family. At the end no one stay with them because of addiction for gambling money they do illigali work. At the end if the day they see they don't give anything to them.
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January 11, 2024, 12:42:39 PM
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Why not? As long as they are breathing, they can always make up to the time that they lost. They can skip gambling next time and spend those time instead to the people closest to them. If those people truly value us, they will always give us another chance.

But, if let say they don't want to, I think it is still possible to build a relationship again with other people. And maybe next time we should choose those people that has the same interest as us, so that they can understand us easily and we can also bond together at most times. Many of us gamblers are lucky that we still have a stable relationship to the people around us. We should learn from this topic and try to be more careful when gambling.
What happened today will not happen again on another day. And even if it happens, it won't be the same as today because time keeps turning. If we lose time with those close to us, we may feel that something is different or has changed with them, especially when we gamble more often and are not with them when they are together. There will be something lost between us, and they will feel it, too, so we cannot turn back time. But we can stay with them, especially when we can reduce our gambling activities so that we will spend more of our free time with them.

Of course, it will feel different if we are in a relationship with other people who are not the people who are usually close to us. They will also feel the same way because before we gamble more often, we already have a close relationship with them that cannot be replaced by anything. And that is why we have to balance everything well so that no disturbance occurs between us and those near us.
Yes you are right that mate every now and then are not the same and like what you said if we loss yesterday then there's a chance that we will win today. But if we will loss  yesterday and today still that is not the same cause the value of our loss is not just the same maybe yesterday we loss a lot but today we loss less or else we will win a small amount of Money. In the world of gambling we can not say that we will always the winner. Cause we can not predict the outcome of our bet.
You are right and I'm with you on this point that no one can predict the possible outcome of games in gambling,but one thing is sure,and that is the fact that some persons have bad luck,and their luck wouldn't allow them to be able to win games like the way some persons win games.While some persons  dont need to be good at prediction,their luck paves way for them,whatever they choose becomes what the results will be like. A lady close to my house doesn't watch football,she doesn't know anything about prediction,but she always chooses any team of her choice to win,and at the end of the game,the team she chose will always win,that is to say some persons have that luck,while some do not.
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January 11, 2024, 10:16:44 AM
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A Shanghai man was sentenced to prison for kidnapping his own granddaughter so he could maintain his gambling addiction with the ransom money.

The kidnapping — orchestrated by a 65-year-old man identified only by his surname, Yuan — was first reported by the Shanghai Law and Rule Journal. The legal news outlet didn't specify when the incident occurred but wrote on April 18 that Yuan had just started serving his prison sentence.

Yuan kicked off his plan by picking up his four-year-old granddaughter from her kindergarten and taking her out to eat and shop without her mother's knowledge, the Journal reported.

[1] https://www.insider.com/shanghai-man-kidnapped-his-own-granddaughter-for-72000-report-2023-4
[2] https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/grandpa-in-china-kidnaps-own-granddaughter-demands-ransom-so-he-can-continue-gambling

many gambling addicts have lost their minds because their desire to continue gambling overpowers their common sense, hence the importance of "gambling responsibly"

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There are three licensing objectives which support the whole basis of gambling regulation:

- that crime should be kept out of gambling
- it should be conducted in a fair and open way
- children and other vulnerable persons should be protected from harm or exploitation from gambling.

[1] https://www.gamblingcommission.gov.uk/licensees-and-businesses/guide/social-responsibility

Some many people have earned a lot from gambling,they have built houses and made lots of achievement through gambling,and thats how they nurture so much love for it which leave on to the statement that they are now gambling addicts,and they can  go extra miles to do whatsoever to boost or continue their gambling.

It more or less like a drug addict,that can do whatever thing in order to get what he wants,so he don't mind,killing a being,stealing and all of that.
So gambling has really made lots of people loose a lot,including family Just to keep their gambling game alive.
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January 11, 2024, 10:08:04 AM
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Why not? As long as they are breathing, they can always make up to the time that they lost. They can skip gambling next time and spend those time instead to the people closest to them. If those people truly value us, they will always give us another chance.

But, if let say they don't want to, I think it is still possible to build a relationship again with other people. And maybe next time we should choose those people that has the same interest as us, so that they can understand us easily and we can also bond together at most times. Many of us gamblers are lucky that we still have a stable relationship to the people around us. We should learn from this topic and try to be more careful when gambling.
What happened today will not happen again on another day. And even if it happens, it won't be the same as today because time keeps turning. If we lose time with those close to us, we may feel that something is different or has changed with them, especially when we gamble more often and are not with them when they are together. There will be something lost between us, and they will feel it, too, so we cannot turn back time. But we can stay with them, especially when we can reduce our gambling activities so that we will spend more of our free time with them.

Of course, it will feel different if we are in a relationship with other people who are not the people who are usually close to us. They will also feel the same way because before we gamble more often, we already have a close relationship with them that cannot be replaced by anything. And that is why we have to balance everything well so that no disturbance occurs between us and those near us.
Yes you are right that mate every now and then are not the same and like what you said if we loss yesterday then there's a chance that we will win today. But if we will loss  yesterday and today still that is not the same cause the value of our loss is not just the same maybe yesterday we loss a lot but today we loss less or else we will win a small amount of Money. In the world of gambling we can not say that we will always the winner. Cause we can not predict the outcome of our bet.
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January 11, 2024, 09:43:07 AM
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Why not? As long as they are breathing, they can always make up to the time that they lost. They can skip gambling next time and spend those time instead to the people closest to them. If those people truly value us, they will always give us another chance.

But, if let say they don't want to, I think it is still possible to build a relationship again with other people. And maybe next time we should choose those people that has the same interest as us, so that they can understand us easily and we can also bond together at most times. Many of us gamblers are lucky that we still have a stable relationship to the people around us. We should learn from this topic and try to be more careful when gambling.
What happened today will not happen again on another day. And even if it happens, it won't be the same as today because time keeps turning. If we lose time with those close to us, we may feel that something is different or has changed with them, especially when we gamble more often and are not with them when they are together. There will be something lost between us, and they will feel it, too, so we cannot turn back time. But we can stay with them, especially when we can reduce our gambling activities so that we will spend more of our free time with them.

Of course, it will feel different if we are in a relationship with other people who are not the people who are usually close to us. They will also feel the same way because before we gamble more often, we already have a close relationship with them that cannot be replaced by anything. And that is why we have to balance everything well so that no disturbance occurs between us and those near us.
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January 10, 2024, 03:26:30 PM
Addicted people don't understand how to stop their addiction so if they experience more and more losses it will increase their pressure to continue gambling to chase their losses, so it's not surprising that some of their families hate the gambler's behavior, it's not surprising that their family abandons them because addiction itself is very annoying. Especially if they has no intention of stopping and has a temperamental nature that is certain of course his family will leave him alone.

It's true, people who are very addicted to gambling even can forget about their homes. In my country there are no official offline casinos, there is only gambling done by people when they gather in one place or just gambling on cockfights. From this habit, they are even spend too long time outside with their gambling friends. No time for his family, let say from 7 - 4, they are working, when working day is over, they are just going to take a bath and back to their gambling friends. There was even one case where a husband and wife quarreled in front of my house, this happen after divorcing because his wife didn't want to accept him anymore. Hopefully all of us on this forum don't experience something similar. We should be able to learn to control ourselves even though we are addicted to gambling, but we still have to remember all our families.

Not far to happened if you only care about gambling and no longer capable to provide the needs of your family, not only for financial but more on the presence of being a husband,  gambling addiction can create situation like this, where the wife will no longer accept after being there for his husband but nothing is changing,  if the person is already drunkly addicted his mindset is all for his gambling plans and nothing else.
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January 10, 2024, 03:25:34 PM
They will not only lose their money, but they will also lose their precious time. Lost money can be found again, but if time is lost, where do you want to look for it. And maybe you will not only lose your personal time, but you will also lose time with your partner and family. Because you have prioritized the gambling you do, compared to other activities.
So quite a few people whose romances are destroyed because of their bad behavior in gambling, their families become disharmonious because they often abandon them. And there are quite a few whose households have been destroyed, simply because they prioritize their gambling activities over family matters. Maybe we can look for a partner again, but unfortunately when our children often feel neglected and don't get attention from their parents, this will be the reason why a child chooses to hate and not respect their parents. And when a child hates his parents, then who will you use as a place to go home to?
That means they are missing two important things in their life. And it is true that they can still earn money, but they will not be able to make up for the time they have lost, while that is time they should spend with the people closest to them. They will find it difficult to build a relationship like before because everything has changed, and often, they will not be able to get it even if they try. Even though they try, if they still gamble frequently, the results will not be optimal, and their relationships with those closest to them will no longer be good. When someone who often gambles also experiences losses, even a lot of losses, their relationships with those closest to them may also fade, and they will not be able to get what they got before. The relationship can also be destroyed, like what they feel in gambling, so it is very difficult to repair the relationship.
Why not? As long as they are breathing, they can always make up to the time that they lost. They can skip gambling next time and spend those time instead to the people closest to them. If those people truly value us, they will always give us another chance.

But, if let say they don't want to, I think it is still possible to build a relationship again with other people. And maybe next time we should choose those people that has the same interest as us, so that they can understand us easily and we can also bond together at most times. Many of us gamblers are lucky that we still have a stable relationship to the people around us. We should learn from this topic and try to be more careful when gambling.
Relationship or not, there should be a thick line here, I think it shouldn't mix with gambling. Not your friend, lover or family should be affected in any way simply because you gamble, gamblers should moderate things and not do anything excessively. For this to happen, the person must be a responsible gambler in all senses and I see no reason why gambling which is just a regular way of life to some people who don't abuse it will suddenly become a relationship destroyer. It must have been that the gambler is doing a lot wrongly which will backfire on their heads, and generally, it is irresponsible gambling that could only be responsible for that. This has to be changed before such can be curbed or guarded against from the beginning. This goes for the lucky and the unlucky ones, and once they moderate their gambling activities, the money and time spent doing it, there can't be excessiveness that could call for caution, including that of addiction.
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January 10, 2024, 01:40:32 PM
It is true that the big disadvantage of gambling is losing a lot of time with our family or loved ones. Gambling enthusiasts only think about how to get money from winning gambling matches and return the money they have spent in losing. In fact, it is not uncommon for us to meet gambling enthusiasts who are willing to leave their families just for what they say is to have fun and earn money.
However, when they start to realize that they are very depressed, no one cares about them anymore because their relationship has just been thrown away. they think no one cares about their situation, even though they themselves have thrown it all away.
Loosing family time due to gambling is mostly common amongst addicts as normal and responsible gamblers know how to schedule their time such that they will have enough time to spend with family and still have time to gamble regardless of how much time they spend at the casino a.d that's why they are seen as responsible because they have that discipline that helps them regulate their habit.

Because of the ability to not been able to regulate how much they gamble, the irresponsible and addicted gamblers could then get into depression especially after they must have suffered a huge loss, it's also common for most family members to want to despise addicted gamblers because they may feel his attitude may turn out a problem for them.amd they wouldn't want to be associated with such hence they despise them and even when they become depressed they don't have someone to get to because maybe family is gone.
Of course someone who is addicted definitely doesn't have time to have fun with other people or their family because they are already busy themselves with their gambling even though gambling only makes them more bankrupt, in contrast to people who can control themselves and can allocate their time and gambling. This can be called Responsible gamblers, especially if they already have a family, will of course have more time to work and for the family, gambling is only a small part of their free time.

Addicted people don't understand how to stop their addiction so if they experience more and more losses it will increase their pressure to continue gambling to chase their losses, so it's not surprising that some of their families hate the gambler's behavior, it's not surprising that their family abandons them because addiction itself is very annoying. Especially if they has no intention of stopping and has a temperamental nature that is certain of course his family will leave him alone.
Considering your comment, it fits with my view of gambling's complexity. Indeed, addiction consumes time, resources, and relationships. Decreased returns lead to deeper sadness in loss recovery. Your spiral representation is vibrant and moving.

However, I favor nuance. Gambling doesnt always mean bad. Responsible enjoyment coexists with addiction in this diversified setting. Think of a bunch of friends laughing over a card game, when companionship trumps money. Gambling may be social and pleasurable, adding to life rather than taking away from it.

Lets not blame all gambling for addiction. Acknowledging the problem and the prospect of a healthy gambling relationship are key. Awareness, education, and support are crucial. Creating an environment where fun and responsibility are intertwined in leisurely gambling is key.
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January 10, 2024, 12:06:24 PM
They will not only lose their money, but they will also lose their precious time. Lost money can be found again, but if time is lost, where do you want to look for it. And maybe you will not only lose your personal time, but you will also lose time with your partner and family. Because you have prioritized the gambling you do, compared to other activities.
So quite a few people whose romances are destroyed because of their bad behavior in gambling, their families become disharmonious because they often abandon them. And there are quite a few whose households have been destroyed, simply because they prioritize their gambling activities over family matters. Maybe we can look for a partner again, but unfortunately when our children often feel neglected and don't get attention from their parents, this will be the reason why a child chooses to hate and not respect their parents. And when a child hates his parents, then who will you use as a place to go home to?
That means they are missing two important things in their life. And it is true that they can still earn money, but they will not be able to make up for the time they have lost, while that is time they should spend with the people closest to them. They will find it difficult to build a relationship like before because everything has changed, and often, they will not be able to get it even if they try. Even though they try, if they still gamble frequently, the results will not be optimal, and their relationships with those closest to them will no longer be good. When someone who often gambles also experiences losses, even a lot of losses, their relationships with those closest to them may also fade, and they will not be able to get what they got before. The relationship can also be destroyed, like what they feel in gambling, so it is very difficult to repair the relationship.
Why not? As long as they are breathing, they can always make up to the time that they lost. They can skip gambling next time and spend those time instead to the people closest to them. If those people truly value us, they will always give us another chance.

But, if let say they don't want to, I think it is still possible to build a relationship again with other people. And maybe next time we should choose those people that has the same interest as us, so that they can understand us easily and we can also bond together at most times. Many of us gamblers are lucky that we still have a stable relationship to the people around us. We should learn from this topic and try to be more careful when gambling.

As long as we don't have problems with gambling, then our family and people around us won't have problems either. Some end up losing the support of those closest to them when they have a gambling problem. that is why we have to be careful with the gambling we do. because the impact is not only for us, there are people around us who can get the impact too.

The addiction that takes up a lot of our time and money is not just gambling. even those who are addicted to online games can also lose the same.
I'm also a gambler, but I try not to cross the limits that I committed to from the start. I avoid losing support from people around me who know about my gambling activities. I know the consequences could be fatal, but hopefully, I can stay committed.
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January 10, 2024, 11:56:19 AM
Addicted people don't understand how to stop their addiction so if they experience more and more losses it will increase their pressure to continue gambling to chase their losses, so it's not surprising that some of their families hate the gambler's behavior, it's not surprising that their family abandons them because addiction itself is very annoying. Especially if they has no intention of stopping and has a temperamental nature that is certain of course his family will leave him alone.

It's true, people who are very addicted to gambling even can forget about their homes. In my country there are no official offline casinos, there is only gambling done by people when they gather in one place or just gambling on cockfights. From this habit, they are even spend too long time outside with their gambling friends. No time for his family, let say from 7 - 4, they are working, when working day is over, they are just going to take a bath and back to their gambling friends. There was even one case where a husband and wife quarreled in front of my house, this happen after divorcing because his wife didn't want to accept him anymore. Hopefully all of us on this forum don't experience something similar. We should be able to learn to control ourselves even though we are addicted to gambling, but we still have to remember all our families.

in the end addiction to gamble is possibly an infinite research for the flow state but in a destructive way
it depends on the games you play too
I think it could have to do with thinking you don't deserve your money, having too much disposable income and too little ideas, having no purpose or support network
many thoughts

what do you think?
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January 10, 2024, 11:28:21 AM
They will not only lose their money, but they will also lose their precious time. Lost money can be found again, but if time is lost, where do you want to look for it. And maybe you will not only lose your personal time, but you will also lose time with your partner and family. Because you have prioritized the gambling you do, compared to other activities.
So quite a few people whose romances are destroyed because of their bad behavior in gambling, their families become disharmonious because they often abandon them. And there are quite a few whose households have been destroyed, simply because they prioritize their gambling activities over family matters. Maybe we can look for a partner again, but unfortunately when our children often feel neglected and don't get attention from their parents, this will be the reason why a child chooses to hate and not respect their parents. And when a child hates his parents, then who will you use as a place to go home to?
That means they are missing two important things in their life. And it is true that they can still earn money, but they will not be able to make up for the time they have lost, while that is time they should spend with the people closest to them. They will find it difficult to build a relationship like before because everything has changed, and often, they will not be able to get it even if they try. Even though they try, if they still gamble frequently, the results will not be optimal, and their relationships with those closest to them will no longer be good. When someone who often gambles also experiences losses, even a lot of losses, their relationships with those closest to them may also fade, and they will not be able to get what they got before. The relationship can also be destroyed, like what they feel in gambling, so it is very difficult to repair the relationship.
Why not? As long as they are breathing, they can always make up to the time that they lost. They can skip gambling next time and spend those time instead to the people closest to them. If those people truly value us, they will always give us another chance.

But, if let say they don't want to, I think it is still possible to build a relationship again with other people. And maybe next time we should choose those people that has the same interest as us, so that they can understand us easily and we can also bond together at most times. Many of us gamblers are lucky that we still have a stable relationship to the people around us. We should learn from this topic and try to be more careful when gambling.
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January 10, 2024, 10:15:21 AM
Addicted people don't understand how to stop their addiction so if they experience more and more losses it will increase their pressure to continue gambling to chase their losses, so it's not surprising that some of their families hate the gambler's behavior, it's not surprising that their family abandons them because addiction itself is very annoying. Especially if they has no intention of stopping and has a temperamental nature that is certain of course his family will leave him alone.

It's true, people who are very addicted to gambling even can forget about their homes. In my country there are no official offline casinos, there is only gambling done by people when they gather in one place or just gambling on cockfights. From this habit, they are even spend too long time outside with their gambling friends. No time for his family, let say from 7 - 4, they are working, when working day is over, they are just going to take a bath and back to their gambling friends. There was even one case where a husband and wife quarreled in front of my house, this happen after divorcing because his wife didn't want to accept him anymore. Hopefully all of us on this forum don't experience something similar. We should be able to learn to control ourselves even though we are addicted to gambling, but we still have to remember all our families.
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January 10, 2024, 09:50:23 AM
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Yes, it is the best we can do, for example I never fall into addiction because at the time I was a newbie and I saw that I was losing a lot of money, I only thought about how I could get it back, of course in the casino I don't even know what I thought I would recover it in terms of my job, and work 2 or 3 more shifts, that's what I thought afterwards and I forgot to play dice, of course I'm talking about 2017, which was when I discovered everything about Bitcoin, games, and what has to do with this, in this case we must always see that when it comes to doing better things we have to see how we can do so that our money increases in the game, and the best way is for us to have money totally to lose, not to start investing in having a lot of money that we need for our basic expenses, because it falls into the same vein as: How to recover the money without playing in the casino? Obviously, with more work load, then when thinking about those aspects one must control oneself, that for me was enough to control myself, but that worked for me because at that time I already had a baby, now I have two, one of 8 and another girl of 2, then at least she can lose control.

When I thought that I had to give him everything, milk, diapers and all those obligations, I knew that I couldn't spend the money I had for those expenses, and that was something that made me react, so for me it works like this, having a family, What I can do is recommend to people that they react when they feel that they may fall into addiction, so in view of this things can happen very fortuitously in the casino, many other strategies can be done to control themselves, but that depends of each person, and each person has to do what suits them best in order to control themselves, even if they are extreme measures.
Someone who is still a newbie will not get addicted to gambling quickly unless he returns to gambling without restrictions and every day, he only plays gambling. It will make him addicted to gambling without him realizing it so that when he sees what has happened to him, he will be surprised that he is already addicted to gambling. If the newbie experiences defeat, he will not think about ending his gambling game but will try to gamble again by depositing more money. This was because he felt it was a good day, which almost made him win big. And if he doesn't realize that it was a mistake to deposit more money to gamble, he will only increase the amount of his losses. He should be able to think about how to increase his amount of money without having to gamble. Yes, he can look for a job that can make money to earn money from other activities. And when we can make money from work, that is, we can really make money, we should immediately think about starting to reduce the gambling activities we do because we only lose money in gambling and not make money like we get from our jobs.

By making money from your work, you can buy diapers for your children, meet your daily needs, and save for your family's future, including your children. That will be more exciting than using the money to gamble in the hope that you can make money from gambling. Indeed, you can make money from gambling, but that doesn't guarantee you can make it every time you gamble. So it's time for those who are married to remember that meeting family needs is the most important thing in our gambling activities, whatever the reason, including trying to make money from gambling because we won't be able to get it easily. We can gamble but only to get pleasure, and after that, we have to quit gambling. And we can get that pleasure through our family, who always accompanies us.
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January 10, 2024, 04:49:08 AM
It is true that the big disadvantage of gambling is losing a lot of time with our family or loved ones. Gambling enthusiasts only think about how to get money from winning gambling matches and return the money they have spent in losing. In fact, it is not uncommon for us to meet gambling enthusiasts who are willing to leave their families just for what they say is to have fun and earn money.
However, when they start to realize that they are very depressed, no one cares about them anymore because their relationship has just been thrown away. they think no one cares about their situation, even though they themselves have thrown it all away.
Loosing family time due to gambling is mostly common amongst addicts as normal and responsible gamblers know how to schedule their time such that they will have enough time to spend with family and still have time to gamble regardless of how much time they spend at the casino a.d that's why they are seen as responsible because they have that discipline that helps them regulate their habit.

Because of the ability to not been able to regulate how much they gamble, the irresponsible and addicted gamblers could then get into depression especially after they must have suffered a huge loss, it's also common for most family members to want to despise addicted gamblers because they may feel his attitude may turn out a problem for them.amd they wouldn't want to be associated with such hence they despise them and even when they become depressed they don't have someone to get to because maybe family is gone.
Of course someone who is addicted definitely doesn't have time to have fun with other people or their family because they are already busy themselves with their gambling even though gambling only makes them more bankrupt, in contrast to people who can control themselves and can allocate their time and gambling. This can be called Responsible gamblers, especially if they already have a family, will of course have more time to work and for the family, gambling is only a small part of their free time.

Addicted people don't understand how to stop their addiction so if they experience more and more losses it will increase their pressure to continue gambling to chase their losses, so it's not surprising that some of their families hate the gambler's behavior, it's not surprising that their family abandons them because addiction itself is very annoying. Especially if they has no intention of stopping and has a temperamental nature that is certain of course his family will leave him alone.
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A Shanghai man was sentenced to prison for kidnapping his own granddaughter so he could maintain his gambling addiction with the ransom money.

The kidnapping — orchestrated by a 65-year-old man identified only by his surname, Yuan — was first reported by the Shanghai Law and Rule Journal. The legal news outlet didn't specify when the incident occurred but wrote on April 18 that Yuan had just started serving his prison sentence.

Yuan kicked off his plan by picking up his four-year-old granddaughter from her kindergarten and taking her out to eat and shop without her mother's knowledge, the Journal reported.

[1] https://www.insider.com/shanghai-man-kidnapped-his-own-granddaughter-for-72000-report-2023-4
[2] https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/grandpa-in-china-kidnaps-own-granddaughter-demands-ransom-so-he-can-continue-gambling

many gambling addicts have lost their minds because their desire to continue gambling overpowers their common sense, hence the importance of "gambling responsibly"

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There are three licensing objectives which support the whole basis of gambling regulation:

- that crime should be kept out of gambling
- it should be conducted in a fair and open way
- children and other vulnerable persons should be protected from harm or exploitation from gambling.

[1] https://www.gamblingcommission.gov.uk/licensees-and-businesses/guide/social-responsibility

It's actually terrible when things like this happen. I'll explain what I mean. That is, when a person ceases to control himself and loses control, it is terrible, because he ruins his life and exposes it to enormous risk. But a person has the right to do with his life what he sees fit within the framework of the law. But when a person, due to loss of control, destroys someone else’s life, then this is much worse, since his gaming addiction ruins the life not only of himself but also of those around him. I would advise such people to turn to God. I know examples when God gives them freedom and their lives change
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It is true that the big disadvantage of gambling is losing a lot of time with our family or loved ones. Gambling enthusiasts only think about how to get money from winning gambling matches and return the money they have spent in losing. In fact, it is not uncommon for us to meet gambling enthusiasts who are willing to leave their families just for what they say is to have fun and earn money.
However, when they start to realize that they are very depressed, no one cares about them anymore because their relationship has just been thrown away. they think no one cares about their situation, even though they themselves have thrown it all away.
Not only do we lose a lot of time with our family or loved ones, but we also have the opportunity to lose the money we have, and even if it gets serious, we can lose the things we have along with losing the people we love. They will not be able to see us as before, who really loved them, but they will see us as gamblers who are more concerned with gambling than them. If we don't realize it, we will really lose everything we have, and even though we can win, it will be meaningless if we lose everything we have, including the people we love. We won't be able to repair that relationship because everything has fallen apart because of what we did, which was our biggest mistake. When we are down and have lost everything, we can regret our actions, but it may be too late because they are long gone.

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Getting your point, as the time you spend with your gambling will be the time that you lost since you are very focus with gambling and forget about those people around you, it's hard to repair a relationship if you are already engage too much with gambling, there's nothing inside your mind aside from how will you please your desire for gambling.

I think the only possible way is to completely quit with your will and make sure not to think about it anymore, after that, when everything already fresh, you can try to work out with your relationship and spend all your time to accomplish your will to repair everything.
That's what we will experience if we play gambling for too long because we will be too busy to forget our relationships with people close to us and also not be able to see what has changed about ourselves. Playing gambling should be a fun activity and not cause problems, but because we use it too seriously and for too long, it makes us experience relationship problems with the people closest to us. This must end immediately because if not, we will really lose people close to us and the relationship will be damaged because we gamble too much.

Only by stopping gambling can we avoid thinking about gambling so that we can try to repair our disturbed relationships. Maybe it also takes time to repair the relationship but we have to try especially if we can show those close to us that we have really stopped gambling. They will believe it especially when they can see that we have really stopped gambling and there is the intention and desire to make that change.

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Gambling often times is stressful and could derail a gambler's brain power to reason in a smart way. Most gamblers we've came across misbehaving were not gamblers, but the moment they began gambling they abused the rules of the game. Not sure they knew the rules. They only played gambling without any orientation or research about the need to gamble. Many of them gambled because of peer influence, and after multiple years of engaging in gambling, they can't stay a day without gambling. Some of which does not stop after being cured of addiction, still gamble, but limits it. Hence, I'd say that those gamblers only begin to learn about gambling after they've been cured of their problem gambling. Then those who followed the rules of gambling and still got addicted where actually not giving the brain a break to rest. Thereby overworking themselves to the point their thoughts wasn't conducive for gambling.
Gambling can make us stressed because we will experience loss and perhaps even experience loss more often. But if we can avoid experiencing a lot of losses by implementing restrictions on our gambling, we can avoid that stress and can even enjoy gambling. Gamblers who behave badly don't know how to treat gambling because all they have in mind is how they can win from it. They are the ones who will experience serious problems in gambling, and they will have difficulty finding solutions because they have gone too far in gambling without being able to get out of gambling easily. But if they were able to treat gambling well from the start by not using a lot of money and also being able to control themselves and set limits and follow them, they would not have difficulty using gambling to get pleasure from it.
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Well you are right, in particular I have always been a person who has done things based on the fact that things in the game have their own rules, that is, when we are playing we have to know that the rules are basic, the casino always has the advantage of the house, and that any other move that we make cannot be that we beat the house, knowing this we have to be clear that things can be very different when we try to establish them in some way, that is, we try to win, but we know that we have to take advantage of the moment when we have good luck, and that is when we can have a profit that benefits us, of course we are people who must also understand that when things are trying to be done well, we have to take advantage of every window of opportunity, I personally have learned that over the years with my experience in games, and I can say that the game is for those who have their plans well established and with enormous discipline, something like When we are in a sport that we have to have discipline, well that is how important I see the attitude we must have in the games.

Now when we are in a casino, you may see people who give a lot of importance to everything that has to do with the games and they take a lot of time and make you think about it all the time, it is normal, but We have to have a prior plan, because falling into an addiction is the last thing we should do, for that reason we must do everything possible to control ourselves, and to know what to do, that is why I have always said, the best weapon to avoid Addiction is putting money completely ready to lose and from there if you lose, do not deposit more, and if you win, then the recommended thing is to withdraw that money, there is no other way, it should always be done that way.
Yes, the casino is the owner of the business, and they are the ones who will get the biggest profits, so whatever gambling game we play doesn't guarantee that we can win either. We can only be careful when gambling and always monitor how we use our money so that we don't lose too much. By always paying attention and being wise about gambling, we can avoid any problems that could occur and we can avoid loss after loss. We cannot fight casinos. If we decide to gamble, we will experience defeat again. And if we win but don't immediately stop and gamble again, it will also make us lose again. Usually, the last loss will trigger the frustration and stress we experience and make us intend to continue gambling. We can indeed take advantage of existing opportunities. But we cannot force those opportunities to give us victory because there is still a house that will be the biggest winner from the losing gamblers. And if we don't want to be among the gamblers who lose a lot of money, we must immediately end the gambling game.

If we have experienced loss after loss, we must immediately realize that we must immediately stop gambling and stay away from the casino. Otherwise, we will be dragged into the casino to play some gambling games, resulting in another loss. And when we are dragged into it, our emotions will increase because we have lost self-control so we cannot prevent the next loss. That is why we must have good self-control to prevent the desire to continue gambling so that we can save the remaining money to use for gambling another day. And I agree with you that you should put money that is ready to lose so that other people don't intend to continue gambling, especially when we see that there is still other money left. It will only plunge us into gambling and maybe we won't realize that we are too deep in gambling.

Yes, it is the best we can do, for example I never fall into addiction because at the time I was a newbie and I saw that I was losing a lot of money, I only thought about how I could get it back, of course in the casino I don't even know what I thought I would recover it in terms of my job, and work 2 or 3 more shifts, that's what I thought afterwards and I forgot to play dice, of course I'm talking about 2017, which was when I discovered everything about Bitcoin, games, and what has to do with this, in this case we must always see that when it comes to doing better things we have to see how we can do so that our money increases in the game, and the best way is for us to have money totally to lose, not to start investing in having a lot of money that we need for our basic expenses, because it falls into the same vein as: How to recover the money without playing in the casino? Obviously, with more work load, then when thinking about those aspects one must control oneself, that for me was enough to control myself, but that worked for me because at that time I already had a baby, now I have two, one of 8 and another girl of 2, then at least she can lose control.

When I thought that I had to give him everything, milk, diapers and all those obligations, I knew that I couldn't spend the money I had for those expenses, and that was something that made me react, so for me it works like this, having a family, What I can do is recommend to people that they react when they feel that they may fall into addiction, so in view of this things can happen very fortuitously in the casino, many other strategies can be done to control themselves, but that depends of each person, and each person has to do what suits them best in order to control themselves, even if they are extreme measures.

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The myths and taboos surrounding it are similar to those surrounding sex education. Lack of conversation promotes curiosity, especially in students. The "forbidden fruit" applies - labeling something off-limits makes it enticing. What if we approached this differently? Imagine schools teaching about gambling to demystify it. We can help children comprehend gambling by emphasizing its facts, risks, and psychological effects. Curiosity may encourage some to experiment, but isn't educated decision-making better than ignorance? Factual, non-sensational gambling discussion may lessen the attraction of it. Gambling is part of the world. Bringing this matter out may help us think better. Understanding gambling as a social phenomenon is the goal. Open discourse may lead to more responsible behavior. I think it's a possibility worth exploring.

In a sense, you are right. I don’t even know what’s better or what’s worse—a complete ban or widespread discussion. But it’s still better to have a discussion, and especially a discussion of sensitive topics. People will always strive for their own experience, even if it is traumatic. After all, if a person gets involved in this, it means he feels some critical gaps in his understanding of the world. And it is traumatic experience that gives such understanding. I understand that this point of view will not be easy for everyone to agree with. But it is so. We greatly underestimate the value of experience, especially negative ones.
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It is true that the big disadvantage of gambling is losing a lot of time with our family or loved ones. Gambling enthusiasts only think about how to get money from winning gambling matches and return the money they have spent in losing. In fact, it is not uncommon for us to meet gambling enthusiasts who are willing to leave their families just for what they say is to have fun and earn money.
However, when they start to realize that they are very depressed, no one cares about them anymore because their relationship has just been thrown away. they think no one cares about their situation, even though they themselves have thrown it all away.
Unfortunately a life where you are not limited by others do seem like a greater deal to many people, and divorce rates are much higher nowadays than back in the day because of it. I am not saying directly related to gambling, for some people it is gambling, for others it's gaming, some going around with friends, there could be a million reasons, people just do not like that there is someone else who tells them not to do something, so they get a divorce and do what they want.

I always found that terrible, that is noble love, if the love of my life (my wife) tells me to stop, I would stop and I would do anything to see her happy, but I also understand others. Gambling is an addiction, when someone tells you to stop, they say it for your goodness.
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They will not only lose their money, but they will also lose their precious time. Lost money can be found again, but if time is lost, where do you want to look for it. And maybe you will not only lose your personal time, but you will also lose time with your partner and family. Because you have prioritized the gambling you do, compared to other activities.
So quite a few people whose romances are destroyed because of their bad behavior in gambling, their families become disharmonious because they often abandon them. And there are quite a few whose households have been destroyed, simply because they prioritize their gambling activities over family matters. Maybe we can look for a partner again, but unfortunately when our children often feel neglected and don't get attention from their parents, this will be the reason why a child chooses to hate and not respect their parents. And when a child hates his parents, then who will you use as a place to go home to?

Every gamblers had their own game plan in the gambling site,because they win the game and fly to the vacation.But some gamblers do the game and loss the game and then keep depositing the money after the losses.This steps to recover the losses in the gambling site after the huge loss in the gambling site.The gamblers who loss the money many times will become the gambling addicted by playing the huge game to recover the loss.The gamblers who lose the entire savings and profit in the gambling site will be hated by their own family members.The children who get to know about the gambling at the early stages will be the victims of making huge money in gambling site.
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