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November 27, 2016, 06:46:02 AM
#52
well its a normal phases usually in trading world because you know price in market is not stable just like the price of bitcoins. so Yes Manipulation is real. this is useful for those rich that commonly part of the system. if im on the same position i could usually take advantage of it. and one more thing everyday we're having a new investors in bitcoin that's why the graph of bitcoin is not stable
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November 27, 2016, 01:29:06 AM
#51
Of course the manipulation is real. I'm just surprised at how late you realized it. I guess it's better late than never. I'm laughing at those who still claim it's all supply and demand, market volatility, blah blah blah, such stupidity abounds here on this stupid forum.

Supply and demand did always affected bitcoin price, I thought 'the manipulation' they discuss here about some big players (millionaire/company/exchanges) all these connected to rise and fall of bitcoin price. What kind of manipulation that you realized since the beginning except those I mentioned, if you don't mind to share.
not an actual manipulation we're talking about I guess. It's just bunch of whales trying to get the advantage of the current condition by dumping or pumping and it's such a usual thing. An individual who has about a billion dollar worth of bitcoin could affect bitcoin directly with and give such a big effect compared to demands which were made by hundreds of people but only have low amount of money
yes it is a normal thing happened in trading world nothing strage here ,
and sometimes the dumpers or pumpers get lost too in this what you call 'manipulation' phase ,
as the market can go wild anytime ,
bitcoin market will never ever can be manipulated .
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November 27, 2016, 12:47:18 AM
#50
Of course the manipulation is real. I'm just surprised at how late you realized it. I guess it's better late than never. I'm laughing at those who still claim it's all supply and demand, market volatility, blah blah blah, such stupidity abounds here on this stupid forum.

Supply and demand did always affected bitcoin price, I thought 'the manipulation' they discuss here about some big players (millionaire/company/exchanges) all these connected to rise and fall of bitcoin price. What kind of manipulation that you realized since the beginning except those I mentioned, if you don't mind to share.
not an actual manipulation we're talking about I guess. It's just bunch of whales trying to get the advantage of the current condition by dumping or pumping and it's such a usual thing. An individual who has about a billion dollar worth of bitcoin could affect bitcoin directly with and give such a big effect compared to demands which were made by hundreds of people but only have low amount of money
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November 27, 2016, 12:29:26 AM
#49
Of course the manipulation is real. I'm just surprised at how late you realized it. I guess it's better late than never. I'm laughing at those who still claim it's all supply and demand, market volatility, blah blah blah, such stupidity abounds here on this stupid forum.

Supply and demand did always affected bitcoin price, I thought 'the manipulation' they discuss here about some big players (millionaire/company/exchanges) all these connected to rise and fall of bitcoin price. What kind of manipulation that you realized since the beginning except those I mentioned, if you don't mind to share.
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November 26, 2016, 10:20:26 PM
#48
I came back from school like 3 hours ago , I first checked preev.com and the price was 747$ or something now It's currently 715$ . I now know for sure that this definitely some manipulation by some rich millionaires and It has nothing to do with India cash news. Feel free to share your thoughts !
I don't see that as a manipulation in the currency. Its small price volatility, happens almost everyday with bitcoin.

I would say whales are manipulating the currency when you see the price change by around 100-150 in a day.
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November 26, 2016, 01:07:24 PM
#47
I came back from school like 3 hours ago , I first checked preev.com and the price was 747$ or something now It's currently 715$ . I now know for sure that this definitely some manipulation by some rich millionaires and It has nothing to do with India cash news. Feel free to share your thoughts !
There's no manipulation happening in bitcoin don't judge too quick because this is a normal in bitcoin when the price of bitcoin in decreasing and increasing ofcourse we have investors and traders that's why the bitcoin price is not that stable and It's look like manipulating by someone or country.
I too see right now no pump or dump is happening to worry about. Still, due to recent crisis Indian markets are heavily bumped but failed to be followed in international markets (maybe Indian markets are isolated due to their regulations). Almost every bitcoin exchange is trading so stable, it is a good witness of manipulation-free days.
Well if the crisis in india will than the price maybe will be back again in the price when india crisis is started.. i think 749 usd it will back soon or this following month we will see more price increase or pump.. we are lucky that the price still in good price unlike last year that the price before end of november we are experience of dumping.. and panic sell.
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November 26, 2016, 12:55:13 PM
#46
I came back from school like 3 hours ago , I first checked preev.com and the price was 747$ or something now It's currently 715$ . I now know for sure that this definitely some manipulation by some rich millionaires and It has nothing to do with India cash news. Feel free to share your thoughts !
There's no manipulation happening in bitcoin don't judge too quick because this is a normal in bitcoin when the price of bitcoin in decreasing and increasing ofcourse we have investors and traders that's why the bitcoin price is not that stable and It's look like manipulating by someone or country.
I too see right now no pump or dump is happening to worry about. Still, due to recent crisis Indian markets are heavily bumped but failed to be followed in international markets (maybe Indian markets are isolated due to their regulations). Almost every bitcoin exchange is trading so stable, it is a good witness of manipulation-free days.
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November 26, 2016, 12:12:04 PM
#45
I came back from school like 3 hours ago , I first checked preev.com and the price was 747$ or something now It's currently 715$ . I now know for sure that this definitely some manipulation by some rich millionaires and It has nothing to do with India cash news. Feel free to share your thoughts !
There's no manipulation happening in bitcoin don't judge too quick because this is a normal in bitcoin when the price of bitcoin in decreasing and increasing ofcourse we have investors and traders that's why the bitcoin price is not that stable and It's look like manipulating by someone or country.
sr. member
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November 25, 2016, 12:50:28 PM
#44
I came back from school like 3 hours ago , I first checked preev.com and the price was 747$ or something now It's currently 715$ . I now know for sure that this definitely some manipulation by some rich millionaires and It has nothing to do with India cash news. Feel free to share your thoughts !
It's possible that it is manipulation, this happens in almost every market. In my opinion, the price may drop a bit more. However, after this phase of dumps, we may see Bitcoin recovering even stronger.
legendary
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November 25, 2016, 12:45:04 PM
#43
Manipulation will keep happening as long as the market is small enough that wealthy whales can cooperate and attack it with big swings. Coordinated attacks on exchanges, bribing.. anything is possible with enough money. If someone wants to attack bitcoin, all he needs is unlimited money to pay all the big exchanges an huge amount of money in order to claim they got "hacked" to crash the price.

When bitcoin is way bigger, those shady tactics will barely have any effect as the marketcap will be too big and the impact will be quickly absorbed.
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November 25, 2016, 08:03:45 AM
#42
i don't think that person will do this unless that person will gain something good with the manipulation he made, beside that, he only see that the price is playing for up and down very often.
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November 25, 2016, 05:17:35 AM
#41
bitcoin price movements in my opinion is full of manipulation. sometimes a lot of great players who could control. I was quite worried when not everyone has access to bitcoin.

not only one people can manipulation bitcoin price
if you want manipulation you must have big capital money, only cooperation company
or team work much people can manipulation bitcoin price

right. bitcoin cannot be controlled or manipulated by a single person anymore. It will take a large group of people with a large amount of bitcoin to make the market move a bit.

I agree that no individual is capable of moving the price significantly unless we are talking about someone with deep pockets and a stake in it. Any hypothetical investment fund entering the market can propel the price within days as the actual liquidity is quite low.
legendary
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November 25, 2016, 04:03:01 AM
#40
What about people in India buying bitcoins for 16% more than the global price?

I think the sheeps goes together, when the price start to increase, everyone buy and hold, buy and sell for a higher price...

I really don't if there's just "one"(few) people behind it.
The market in Inda is too insignificant to make an impact on the Western and Chinese exchanges, where you also see that barely anyone takes their market serious.

People are indeed like sheeps as they prefer to do things in group form. If you look at how many people are asking for advice in troll boxes you'll be surprised that they actually take that information for granted.

You at all times should avoid listening to what others are saying. Even not when it's a group advicing you. Quite often they try to mislead you for their own benefit.

Do your own research before you start buying. If you make a mistake, then it's because of you having made a wrong investment, and not because others are pushing you towards losses intentionally. Because these people are really there.
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November 25, 2016, 03:38:20 AM
#39
There are people that make a living of this. And unlike the stock markets for example, Bitcoin markets are not regulated and this means they can try any dirty tricks they want.
Even the FUD spread on this very forum from time to time is there to allow them speculate easier on the price.
Whatever news are around, they are pumped to the max to allow a later dump. (So this time it may have been slightly related to India news, but that was just a timely pretext).
Yes, the manipulation is real. I find it interesting that some still have to "discover" this, but the existence of this thread could be useful for some.
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November 25, 2016, 03:26:42 AM
#38
bitcoin price movements in my opinion is full of manipulation. sometimes a lot of great players who could control. I was quite worried when not everyone has access to bitcoin.

not only one people can manipulation bitcoin price
if you want manipulation you must have big capital money, only cooperation company
or team work much people can manipulation bitcoin price

right. bitcoin cannot be controlled or manipulated by a single person anymore. It will take a large group of people with a large amount of bitcoin to make the market move a bit.
legendary
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November 25, 2016, 02:55:42 AM
#37
What about people in India buying bitcoins for 16% more than the global price?

I think the sheeps goes together, when the price start to increase, everyone buy and hold, buy and sell for a higher price...

I really don't if there's just "one"(few) people behind it.

In every action there is an equivalent reaction.  As for the bitcoin price, whenever there is some event and being capitalized by the whales, sheeples will follow and there goes the domino effect.  All it need is a good reason to make the  initial action valid and then people will believe it and act according to the plan of manipulators.
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November 25, 2016, 02:20:45 AM
#36
bitcoin price movements in my opinion is full of manipulation. sometimes a lot of great players who could control. I was quite worried when not everyone has access to bitcoin.

not only one people can manipulation bitcoin price
if you want manipulation you must have big capital money, only cooperation company
or team work much people can manipulation bitcoin price
sr. member
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November 25, 2016, 01:07:42 AM
#35
What about people in India buying bitcoins for 16% more than the global price?

I think the sheeps goes together, when the price start to increase, everyone buy and hold, buy and sell for a higher price...

I really don't if there's just "one"(few) people behind it.
hero member
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November 24, 2016, 02:54:34 AM
#34
I came back from school like 3 hours ago , I first checked preev.com and the price was 747$ or something now It's currently 715$ . I now know for sure that this definitely some manipulation by some rich millionaires and It has nothing to do with India cash news. Feel free to share your thoughts !

Do not be so paranoid. While I agree that bitcoin is always being manipulated, I suggest not to think to deep about it. There is no conspiracy against bitcoin. It is simply some rich whales selling and getting out of the market.

Right. Bitcoin is so diverse that it is already hard for whales to control or manipulate the market. Though if they altogether dump their bitcoins, it will have a significant effect on the price of bitcoin.
legendary
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November 23, 2016, 08:33:22 PM
#33
I came back from school like 3 hours ago , I first checked preev.com and the price was 747$ or something now It's currently 715$ . I now know for sure that this definitely some manipulation by some rich millionaires and It has nothing to do with India cash news. Feel free to share your thoughts !

Do not be so paranoid. While I agree that bitcoin is always being manipulated, I suggest not to think to deep about it. There is no conspiracy against bitcoin. It is simply some rich whales selling and getting out of the market.
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