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April 05, 2024, 09:56:05 PM
#35
All wars must have a minimum level of morality that allows the warring parties to import or export foodstuffs or medical supplies necessary for the continuation of life at a minimum.

Preventing Ukraine from exporting grain not only causes suffering to the Ukrainian people, but also causes a crisis in many countries that need these grains.

Not only grain, there are many other necessary materials. Here in my country, for example, we suffer a lot from the high prices of some materials such as oil, iron, and others that were imported from Ukraine.

You make a valid argument concerning the human cost of war. Beyond the immediate loss of life, war may have a catastrophic effect on a country's economy and infrastructure, resulting in long-term issues such as poverty and instability. And, as you indicated, the consequences of conflict can extend well beyond the borders of the countries involved. The blockade of Ukrainian ports has not only resulted in food and other supply shortages in Ukraine, but it has also pushed worldwide prices up, putting millions of people at danger of food poverty. So, if these demands are not addressed, it might result in a prolonged period of instability, with far-reaching ramifications for this entire area as well as the rest of the world.

All stated here in this contest is of reality about war and it's consequences, war is the most dangerous engagement to occur in the means of human existence as it effects never tells good but only destroying the human struggle and their achievement.

Allot has to be corrected and restrictions need made in certain area of life during with a clearly defined terms and conditions, what is happening today all over the world where nation are deprived to export or import grain and other items is as result of unclear terms during war. Another necessity is taking sanction on defaulter of the laws without taking sight of fear against any who violated it. This issue is not only between Ukraine and Russia but also in the case of isreal and Hamas the supply of grain and others items has become a problem as those acclaimed to have power over the others uses it as weapon of war to course starvation and losses in their opponent.
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April 05, 2024, 03:00:07 PM
#34
Russia simply realized, finally, that Ukrainian grain was so full of poisonous pesticides and herbicides that letting it go through would cause more damage to Russian enemies that fighting the actual war in Ukraine. Probably the reason why Ukraine is failing is, Ukrainians have been eating their own grain products for a long time now, and are being poisoned off by their own products.

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Russian folk tale in a modern version.

Does not make much sense to me, or at least I do not understand the point of his post.
Is this an implication of Russian grain and other products being completely organic and free of chemical products?

I may be wrong, because as far as I understand such a huge country with a big population would not be able to feed their people without using fertilizers and pesticides, and considering Ukraine is not the only country which uses such products then we should have expected to see negative consequences of them in other places like China...which certainly uses them



If the only choice you had was to be bitten by a rattle snake or a cobra, which would you choose? Cobra venom kills in as little as 30 minutes. But a rattle snake bite might not even inject any venom.

Take your pick. The deadly grain of Ukraine, which has been treated by Monsanto. Or the slightly poisonous grain of Russia.

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You're right! For Russia, Ukrainian grain is like the bite of a cobra, because it paralyzes the process of Russia selling its grain.

What? Don't you even realize that Ukrainians eat some of their own poison grain?

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April 05, 2024, 05:09:45 AM
#33
All wars must have a minimum level of morality that allows the warring parties to import or export foodstuffs or medical supplies necessary for the continuation of life at a minimum.

Preventing Ukraine from exporting grain not only causes suffering to the Ukrainian people, but also causes a crisis in many countries that need these grains.

Not only grain, there are many other necessary materials. Here in my country, for example, we suffer a lot from the high prices of some materials such as oil, iron, and others that were imported from Ukraine.

You make a valid argument concerning the human cost of war. Beyond the immediate loss of life, war may have a catastrophic effect on a country's economy and infrastructure, resulting in long-term issues such as poverty and instability. And, as you indicated, the consequences of conflict can extend well beyond the borders of the countries involved. The blockade of Ukrainian ports has not only resulted in food and other supply shortages in Ukraine, but it has also pushed worldwide prices up, putting millions of people at danger of food poverty. So, if these demands are not addressed, it might result in a prolonged period of instability, with far-reaching ramifications for this entire area as well as the rest of the world.
legendary
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October 05, 2023, 12:54:18 PM
#32
Russia simply realized, finally, that Ukrainian grain was so full of poisonous pesticides and herbicides that letting it go through would cause more damage to Russian enemies that fighting the actual war in Ukraine. Probably the reason why Ukraine is failing is, Ukrainians have been eating their own grain products for a long time now, and are being poisoned off by their own products.

Cool

Russian folk tale in a modern version.

Does not make much sense to me, or at least I do not understand the point of his post.
Is this an implication of Russian grain and other products being completely organic and free of chemical products?

I may be wrong, because as far as I understand such a huge country with a big population would not be able to feed their people without using fertilizers and pesticides, and considering Ukraine is not the only country which uses such products then we should have expected to see negative consequences of them in other places like China...which certainly uses them



If the only choice you had was to be bitten by a rattle snake or a cobra, which would you choose? Cobra venom kills in as little as 30 minutes. But a rattle snake bite might not even inject any venom.

Take your pick. The deadly grain of Ukraine, which has been treated by Monsanto. Or the slightly poisonous grain of Russia.

Cool

You're right! For Russia, Ukrainian grain is like the bite of a cobra, because it paralyzes the process of Russia selling its grain.
legendary
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October 05, 2023, 10:48:21 AM
#31
Russia simply realized, finally, that Ukrainian grain was so full of poisonous pesticides and herbicides that letting it go through would cause more damage to Russian enemies that fighting the actual war in Ukraine. Probably the reason why Ukraine is failing is, Ukrainians have been eating their own grain products for a long time now, and are being poisoned off by their own products.

Cool

Russian folk tale in a modern version.

Does not make much sense to me, or at least I do not understand the point of his post.
Is this an implication of Russian grain and other products being completely organic and free of chemical products?

I may be wrong, because as far as I understand such a huge country with a big population would not be able to feed their people without using fertilizers and pesticides, and considering Ukraine is not the only country which uses such products then we should have expected to see negative consequences of them in other places like China...which certainly uses them

If the only choice you had was to be bitten by a rattle snake or a cobra, which would you choose? Cobra venom kills in as little as 30 minutes. But a rattle snake bite might not even inject any venom.

Take your pick. The deadly grain of Ukraine, which has been treated by Monsanto. Or the slightly poisonous grain of Russia.

Cool
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October 05, 2023, 08:38:40 AM
#30
In every case of war or calamity, it is necessary to help in the proper management of grain contracts or supplies, and if any State obstructs the other in this way, all States should take action against them.Because Russia blocked Ukraine from exporting war grain, Russia really shouldn't because Ukraine is known as a grain storehouse, and they are known worldwide for their grain storehouses.They could not export their crops and the whole world trade is going through a food crisis, so there is a need to make arrangements for marketing of these national products such as grain or foodstuff or fuel in any situation.Otherwise, a war would have consequences for the entire world system, so I personally think that any country or group that obstructs the export of these cautions should be dealt with harshly and Considering the aspect of ethics, not to prevent the export or not to prevent the import because the fighters will fight the enemy and the other side, so not to use the common people as tools of war.After this war, Turkey first helped the two countries to use the port to export grain, which was a good thing, but Russia did not want to take it easily at first or give it, and then forced it.As we can see Russia is trying to take over Ukraine, but actually USA is currently occupying Ukraine, and they are fighting Russia but not winning the war.My last point is that the morality of war should be maintained on food or necessaries so that they can go to or bring any state and the state that prevents it must prevent the state as a whole So that they cannot stop The grain agreement should be made renewable. In my opinion, what is the grain agreement? In fact, in case of war, these agreements should not be kept, and some basic things should be specified in advance by the people of the world so that there is a war. Do not hesitate to export goods if necessary.Many of us talk about Putin's morality, but we should remember that the Western world is trying to prolong the war with Ukraine if they fall into this deal We can't talk about them. Their morals are in waiting. They are also indirectly creating bad examples of morals Responsibility I'm not talking about Russia, I'm talking about the whole.
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October 05, 2023, 05:39:02 AM
#29
Russia simply realized, finally, that Ukrainian grain was so full of poisonous pesticides and herbicides that letting it go through would cause more damage to Russian enemies that fighting the actual war in Ukraine. Probably the reason why Ukraine is failing is, Ukrainians have been eating their own grain products for a long time now, and are being poisoned off by their own products.

Cool

Russian folk tale in a modern version.

Does not make much sense to me, or at least I do not understand the point of his post.
Is this an implication of Russian grain and other products being completely organic and free of chemical products?

I may be wrong, because as far as I understand such a huge country with a big population would not be able to feed their people without using fertilizers and pesticides, and considering Ukraine is not the only country which uses such products then we should have expected to see negative consequences of them in other places like China...which certainly uses them
legendary
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October 04, 2023, 10:44:32 PM
#28
Russia simply realized, finally, that Ukrainian grain was so full of poisonous pesticides and herbicides that letting it go through would cause more damage to Russian enemies that fighting the actual war in Ukraine. Probably the reason why Ukraine is failing is, Ukrainians have been eating their own grain products for a long time now, and are being poisoned off by their own products.

Cool

Russian folk tale in a modern version.
legendary
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October 03, 2023, 02:48:45 PM
#27
Russia simply realized, finally, that Ukrainian grain was so full of poisonous pesticides and herbicides that letting it go through would cause more damage to Russian enemies that fighting the actual war in Ukraine. Probably the reason why Ukraine is failing is, Ukrainians have been eating their own grain products for a long time now, and are being poisoned off by their own products.

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legendary
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October 03, 2023, 10:21:12 AM
#26
Several ships with Ukrainian grain have already passed unhindered to the Bosphorus. The Russians are probably afraid to attack transports, since Great Britain intends to send warships into the Black Sea for escort.
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July 29, 2023, 03:58:20 PM
#25
Egyptian President Abdul-Fattax Al-Sisi, who arrived in St. Petersburg for the Russia-Africa summit along with the leaders of other countries on this continent, called on Vladimir Putin to extend grain deal with Ukraine, which makes it clear that exactly in Russia they see a problem with the grain.
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July 28, 2023, 06:39:29 PM
#24
Putin chuckles as he challenges Nato to stop him in Ukraine.

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July 27, 2023, 01:16:47 PM
#23
NATO countries let Putin know that he would be in big trouble if even one transport ship was sunk.
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July 27, 2023, 11:55:57 AM
#22
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You forgot to read what you quoted. As usual, you forgot about the countries that wouldn't accept the poisoned grain from Ukraine. Russia was just spanking the Ukraine child, and the spanking is running over onto the US and Nato.

Better a child than density.

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Sorry, but I'm sorry for the time to respond to your childish stupidity. I just get by to ignore you. Do you really think that I will react that you write here on the forum about poisoned grain. Good luck.

We all knew you are sorry. We didn't need you to tell us.

I don't know the future any better than anybody else does. But you have reacted to what I have written in the forum. Some of it is your post that I am quoting right here. Will you react to my writings again? I don't know the future.

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July 26, 2023, 11:48:02 PM
#21
I’m not totally educated on the grain deal situation, but isn’t it possible that Putin wants to make sure his own country has enough grain to feed his people without needing to import genetically modified food grown by the West and their allies? I’m not sure everything Russia does is evil and think they’re just trying to do what is best for them.

  You are right, Russians do what they think is best for them. But why are they bombing the ports of Ukraine and violating Ukraine's trade operations with other countries. If, for example, you are selling your house, can I forbid the sale of your house, because I have nothing to do with this sale. Russia has grain, even if it sells this grain, but what does Ukraine have to do with it. Even if we assume that someone prefers to buy Ukrainian grain, and not Russian, then again, what does Ukraine have to do with it?

Russia is doing this to gently warn Ukraine that much worse things could happen if they keep fighting against Russia's police action. At the same time, though Russia may not realize it, they are saving a bunch of people from Ukraine's poison grain, while enhancing their own grain sales.

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  Our forum child gave the following horror story: Ukraine sells poisonous grain to poison someone. It seems that Russian children read fairy tales about Ukrainian robbers and pirates in their children.

You forgot to read what you quoted. As usual, you forgot about the countries that wouldn't accept the poisoned grain from Ukraine. Russia was just spanking the Ukraine child, and the spanking is running over onto the US and Nato.

Better a child than density.

Cool

Sorry, but I'm sorry for the time to respond to your childish stupidity. I just get by to ignore you. Do you really think that I will react that you write here on the forum about poisoned grain. Good luck.
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July 26, 2023, 04:44:50 PM
#20
I’m not totally educated on the grain deal situation, but isn’t it possible that Putin wants to make sure his own country has enough grain to feed his people without needing to import genetically modified food grown by the West and their allies? I’m not sure everything Russia does is evil and think they’re just trying to do what is best for them.

  You are right, Russians do what they think is best for them. But why are they bombing the ports of Ukraine and violating Ukraine's trade operations with other countries. If, for example, you are selling your house, can I forbid the sale of your house, because I have nothing to do with this sale. Russia has grain, even if it sells this grain, but what does Ukraine have to do with it. Even if we assume that someone prefers to buy Ukrainian grain, and not Russian, then again, what does Ukraine have to do with it?

Russia is doing this to gently warn Ukraine that much worse things could happen if they keep fighting against Russia's police action. At the same time, though Russia may not realize it, they are saving a bunch of people from Ukraine's poison grain, while enhancing their own grain sales.

Cool

  Our forum child gave the following horror story: Ukraine sells poisonous grain to poison someone. It seems that Russian children read fairy tales about Ukrainian robbers and pirates in their children.

You forgot to read what you quoted. As usual, you forgot about the countries that wouldn't accept the poisoned grain from Ukraine. Russia was just spanking the Ukraine child, and the spanking is running over onto the US and Nato.

Better a child than density.

Cool
legendary
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July 26, 2023, 02:32:20 PM
#19
I’m not totally educated on the grain deal situation, but isn’t it possible that Putin wants to make sure his own country has enough grain to feed his people without needing to import genetically modified food grown by the West and their allies? I’m not sure everything Russia does is evil and think they’re just trying to do what is best for them.

  You are right, Russians do what they think is best for them. But why are they bombing the ports of Ukraine and violating Ukraine's trade operations with other countries. If, for example, you are selling your house, can I forbid the sale of your house, because I have nothing to do with this sale. Russia has grain, even if it sells this grain, but what does Ukraine have to do with it. Even if we assume that someone prefers to buy Ukrainian grain, and not Russian, then again, what does Ukraine have to do with it?

Russia is doing this to gently warn Ukraine that much worse things could happen if they keep fighting against Russia's police action. At the same time, though Russia may not realize it, they are saving a bunch of people from Ukraine's poison grain, while enhancing their own grain sales.

Cool

  Our forum child gave the following horror story: Ukraine sells poisonous grain to poison someone. It seems that Russian children read fairy tales about Ukrainian robbers and pirates in their children.
legendary
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July 26, 2023, 01:43:33 PM
#18
I’m not totally educated on the grain deal situation, but isn’t it possible that Putin wants to make sure his own country has enough grain to feed his people without needing to import genetically modified food grown by the West and their allies? I’m not sure everything Russia does is evil and think they’re just trying to do what is best for them.

  You are right, Russians do what they think is best for them. But why are they bombing the ports of Ukraine and violating Ukraine's trade operations with other countries. If, for example, you are selling your house, can I forbid the sale of your house, because I have nothing to do with this sale. Russia has grain, even if it sells this grain, but what does Ukraine have to do with it. Even if we assume that someone prefers to buy Ukrainian grain, and not Russian, then again, what does Ukraine have to do with it?

Russia is doing this to gently warn Ukraine that much worse things could happen if they keep fighting against Russia's police action. At the same time, though Russia may not realize it, they are saving a bunch of people from Ukraine's poison grain, while enhancing their own grain sales.

Cool
legendary
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July 26, 2023, 02:56:47 AM
#17
I’m not totally educated on the grain deal situation, but isn’t it possible that Putin wants to make sure his own country has enough grain to feed his people without needing to import genetically modified food grown by the West and their allies? I’m not sure everything Russia does is evil and think they’re just trying to do what is best for them.

  You are right, Russians do what they think is best for them. But why are they bombing the ports of Ukraine and violating Ukraine's trade operations with other countries. If, for example, you are selling your house, can I forbid the sale of your house, because I have nothing to do with this sale. Russia has grain, even if it sells this grain, but what does Ukraine have to do with it. Even if we assume that someone prefers to buy Ukrainian grain, and not Russian, then again, what does Ukraine have to do with it?
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July 26, 2023, 12:19:49 AM
#16
I’m not totally educated on the grain deal situation, but isn’t it possible that Putin wants to make sure his own country has enough grain to feed his people without needing to import genetically modified food grown by the West and their allies? I’m not sure everything Russia does is evil and think they’re just trying to do what is best for them.
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