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legendary
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January 13, 2016, 01:25:08 PM
#26
I have used some of these cool things. They work great and are very likely to go undiscovered.  Cool



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legendary
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January 13, 2016, 01:24:35 PM
#25
Take your seed words and write a poem with it.For the seed words use a slightly different font so that you still detect the right words after several years. And put this poem in a nice picture frame and place it on a wall somewhere in the living room or so.
legendary
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January 13, 2016, 01:18:29 PM
#24

Put encrypted copies of your seed on many usb keys/storage drives and place these in different geographical locations.
Completely dumb.  People can find these.  You could lose these.  Why subject your fortune to such possible corruptions?  Very risky exposure.


USB keys are small enough to be easily hidden in places when no one would find them (for example a safe). And even if someone found one of them, they would still need to decrypt it. If you're paranoid, you could even place a copy of the encrypted seed in a safe deposit box at a bank.
hero member
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January 13, 2016, 01:01:41 PM
#23
You can just write them on a piece of paper, or engrave them in pieces of wood around your house, and then have a map of their order:D
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January 13, 2016, 12:49:42 PM
#22
i got that idea from a project on here, but i did it my self on a piece of stainless steel plate that i had.
This is very stupid.  Anyone can find your stainless steel.  You could lose your stainless steel.  Horrible.


Better idea is to Google a copy of the New York Times on your birthday.  Then, use the text of the headline story.  Use your social security number, for example 652-75-2386.  Take the sixth word, then the fifth word after that, then the second word after that, then the seventh word after that....  That is your set of keywords that forms a personal seed.  

You'll never forget your social security number - or birthday.  This will assure your key exists only in your head.  You have access to it anytime you want.  Nobody else could possibly arrive at this combination of words which has no relationship with anything.  

Total perfect security.  

Only you have forever access to your Bitcoins.


Put encrypted copies of your seed on many usb keys/storage drives and place these in different geographical locations.
Completely dumb.  People can find these.  You could lose these.  Why subject your fortune to such possible corruptions?  Very risky exposure.
legendary
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January 13, 2016, 12:47:39 PM
#21
Put encrypted copies of your seed on many usb keys/storage drives and place these in different geographical locations.
legendary
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January 13, 2016, 12:19:36 PM
#20
Why wouldn't you hide it behind dry wall... No one is going to remove all the dry wall in your house to look for stuff,  NO ONE.

This looks good, until you want to sell some of it, or buy something with it with them... they you have to break your wall just to get some Bitcoins out. Sure I understand you mean for cold storage, but you never know when you will need some, so I would leave them more accessible.
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January 13, 2016, 12:01:51 PM
#19
That made me think of how I keep my seed  Grin I was installing the HD wallet and when the seed/passphrase was shown I thought: How can I record it and be sure of not losing it? then I read a message in the installation window that said something like "do not take a pic of this or something like that".

Then I went "Oh yes, a pic! such great idea" and made a pic of the screen loooooool.

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January 13, 2016, 11:58:55 AM
#18
Why wouldn't you hide it behind dry wall... No one is going to remove all the dry wall in your house to look for stuff,  NO ONE.
Not now, for sure, but if you die without telling anyone where to find your seed, people will buy the house and start repairs. Construction workers have been known to find gold in old houses every now and then. Who knows that in the next century they won't find bitcoin seeds instead Cheesy
legendary
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January 13, 2016, 11:50:19 AM
#17
Why wouldn't you hide it behind dry wall... No one is going to remove all the dry wall in your house to look for stuff,  NO ONE.
legendary
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January 13, 2016, 11:17:09 AM
#16
I store nothing in digital format, so you can stop searching for it on my computer. I do not trust electronic media because it can be corrupted or hacked. I store my private keys and

seed in different locations on physical media. It is virtually indestructible and would last for centuries. {Hint : Stone}

It is also hidden in plain sight, but undetectable to anyone without the knowledge to decipher it's puzzle and it's use. I know the formula to it's secret and left clues to the family, if

something happens to me.  Grin
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January 13, 2016, 11:09:39 AM
#15
If I were you , I would have engraved it on a heavy metal and put it at the air-con ventilation space with or without any cover (no difference) and push it a little further back so it wouldn't be seen even if someone uses flash lights and point at the cover door to look from the pores of vent.
legendary
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January 13, 2016, 11:07:14 AM
#14
the only way that i have found to be decent, especially if you are planning on keeping your seed and/or private keys for a long time, is engraving them on a metal.
i got that idea from a project on here, but i did it my self on a piece of stainless steel plate that i had.

But this is much harder to hide than a piece of paper that you would cover with a thin foil of plastic so it's waterproof protected.

Yes, a piece of metal is more resistant but you still need to keep it safe from burglary and thieves.

but it is still the same size. metal is a little heavier but as far as size, they can be the same. what i have is a 3x5 Cm with 1.5 mm in thickness, so it is as easy (or hard) as hiding same size paper covered with plastic.

I was thinking more in a way that you can bend over easily plasticized paper several times and tuck it in somewhere more easily than a little steel plate for example.

Than again I guess that we are nitpicking here. We won't have this problem with physical theft of private keys for years to come until bitcoin doesn't become really huge.

As long as nobody knows you are holding a large amount of bitcoins in your house, than it is not going to be much of a problem.

But if you tell everybody that you store 100 bitcoin on a piece of paper in your house, and bitcoin is worth 1000 or more, it is almost guaranteed that you will get a few visitors every now and then.

Probably the safest way in the future will be to split up the key into 4 or something parts and store each part at a different location (not in one house ofcourse). You won't need it often anyway if you use a hardware wallet for instance.
sr. member
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January 13, 2016, 10:57:12 AM
#13
the only way that i have found to be decent, especially if you are planning on keeping your seed and/or private keys for a long time, is engraving them on a metal.
i got that idea from a project on here, but i did it my self on a piece of stainless steel plate that i had.

But this is much harder to hide than a piece of paper that you would cover with a thin foil of plastic so it's waterproof protected.

Yes, a piece of metal is more resistant but you still need to keep it safe from burglary and thieves.

but it is still the same size. metal is a little heavier but as far as size, they can be the same. what i have is a 3x5 Cm with 1.5 mm in thickness, so it is as easy (or hard) as hiding same size paper covered with plastic.

I was thinking more in a way that you can bend over easily plasticized paper several times and tuck it in somewhere more easily than a little steel plate for example.

Than again I guess that we are nitpicking here. We won't have this problem with physical theft of private keys for years to come until bitcoin doesn't become really huge.
hero member
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January 13, 2016, 10:56:53 AM
#12
I'd hide my seed on a paper and then put the paper under the bed, much safer because thief won't be looking under your bed when you're sleeping at night Tongue
Under the bed is even worse than inside the computer case. Yeah it's safe when you're sleeping at night but what about the rest of the time?
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If the thieves have all parts of the seed it doesn't matter if they need to solve a pattern to crack it. It will at most slow them from getting the key, but any non random substitution is easily cracked nowadays.
Indeed. That's true for substitutions  Smiley
hero member
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January 13, 2016, 10:50:33 AM
#11
I hide my seed inside my PC
http://learn.caconnects.org/file.php/11/open-computer-cases.png

Where you hide ?
That's the worst idea ever actually Tongue
I'd hide my seed on a paper and then put the paper under the bed, much safer because thief won't be looking under your bed when you're sleeping at night Tongue
Or better, put it in Bank's safes
legendary
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January 13, 2016, 10:47:49 AM
#10
I hide my seed inside my PC
http://learn.caconnects.org/file.php/11/open-computer-cases.png

Where you hide ?
Excellent idea. If I was a thief that's precisely the first place I'd search. Don't tell me your password is 123456789, now?

Paper is still your best bet. Or a metal, like pooya87 suggested. I'd write down my seed on a sheet of paper using an encoding pattern that only I understand, if I were you. And then maybe I'd frame said sheet of paper and hang in the middle of my hallway like you did, because it wouldn't matter anymore.

Most chiefs wouldn't realize a computer case can contain something valuable inside to be honest, they don't care about some computer materials, they are going to go for fiat, gold, and search any vaults hiding behind pictures or closets, but certainly they aren't going to go after the latest video cards or something because they can't tell value out of that, unless the chiefs happen to be nerds.
hero member
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January 13, 2016, 10:47:32 AM
#9
I just have it written on a diary but its written in a way that only I could understand/decipher it and of-course the home I live in is pretty secure, so I am not worried about intruders.

You can also keep a dictionary then write down the page number and the serial no. of where the words are listed on that page and then write down those numbers somewhere which has literally no value to a thief.
legendary
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January 13, 2016, 10:42:41 AM
#8
I hide my seed inside my PC
http://learn.caconnects.org/file.php/11/open-computer-cases.png

Where you hide ?
Excellent idea. If I was a thief that's precisely the first place I'd search. Don't tell me your password is 123456789, now?

Paper is still your best bet. Or a metal, like pooya87 suggested. I'd write down my seed on a sheet of paper using an encoding pattern that only I understand, if I were you. And then maybe I'd frame said sheet of paper and hang in the middle of my hallway like you did, because it wouldn't matter anymore.

If the thieves have all parts of the seed it doesn't matter if they need to solve a pattern to crack it. It will at most slow them from getting the key, but any non random substitution is easily cracked nowadays.

I store my keys on paper and USB sticks (encrypted wallet.dat). Those are securely locked away so nobody can touch or find them.

I wouldn't store my keys in a computer case, if the thieves suspect that you have a wallet.dat on there, they might just take the computer with them. It would probably be safer to have it on a piece of paper in plain sight, as they might think it is just a pile of random papers (don't throw them out).
legendary
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January 13, 2016, 10:25:52 AM
#7
I think the best idea is to put it in a fake mustard, nutella or whatever you want jar. When I meant fake I meant that it is emmpty, with the glass painted to make think that this is full. You can also hide your bucks there Wink !
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