The new type of flood attack for non-moderated and moderated threads

escapefrom3dom

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Quote from: manfredmann on October 30, 2018, 10:35:52 AM

Well I hope report button will work automatically like ban temp ban to a user when a certain amount of a report from the coming from the users that are handled and good. Like for example a post reaches to this following report
1-10 - reports from users will get 1 day tempm ban
11-20-reports from users in the forum 2 days temp. ban
21-30 - reports from users will get 3 days ban and ......so on and so forth..
This will minimize this bumping attact on thread and it is good also if temp ban will be automated according to the number od report for that post.

this kind of solution has some flaws that can't be neglected.

so, the bottom line may be as follows:

- no solution for non-moderated threads atm

- the problem can be solved for moderated threads but only with involving additional (external aside bct functionality) automation tools

thread locked until new updates. thanks for the attention.

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Well I hope report button will work automatically like ban temp ban to a user when a certain amount of a report from the coming from the users that are handled and good. Like for example a post reaches to this following report
1-10 - reports from users will get 1 day tempm ban
11-20-reports from users in the forum 2 days temp. ban
21-30 - reports from users will get 3 days ban and ......so on and so forth..
This will minimize this bumping attact on thread and it is good also if temp ban will be automated according to the number od report for that post.

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Quote from: Jonh_Sneg on October 30, 2018, 03:42:31 AM

Quote from: escapefrom3dom on October 29, 2018, 03:43:28 PM

no, for example the described attacker (due to his mental peculiarities) can (and he does it hard and regularly, simultaneously laughing at us as it given above) continuously make posts in threads, so the solution must be more than just enabling moderated option.

hey guys i am that bad flood attacker yes yes do not be surprised Grin

so i have a words to talk
escapefrom3dom you're a liar or don't understand what a flood is
why am i flood
you closed old thread [ANN] DeepOnion ONION🌍Private цифpoвaя вaлютa🌍 Peлиз DeepVault✅ because i did flood as u think
but why mod didnt delete my flood? because that was not flood
in new self-moderated topic you just keep deleting uncomfortable questions about your scam project which you supervise

Mods don’t delete stuff from locked topics afaik. That’d be useless and time wasting to say the least.

Unless it’s a scam link or something it’ll go unaltered once the thread is locked.

escapefrom3dom

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Quote from: olgaiva on October 30, 2018, 08:15:38 AM

Quote from: Jonh_Sneg on October 30, 2018, 03:42:31 AM

Quote from: escapefrom3dom on October 29, 2018, 03:43:28 PM

no, for example the described attacker (due to his mental peculiarities) can (and he does it hard and regularly, simultaneously laughing at us as it given above) continuously make posts in threads, so the solution must be more than just enabling moderated option.

hey guys i am that bad flood attacker yes yes do not be surprised Grin

so i have a words to talk
escapefrom3dom you're a liar or don't understand what a flood is
why am i flood
you closed old thread [ANN] DeepOnion ONION🌍Private цифpoвaя вaлютa🌍 Peлиз DeepVault✅ because i did flood as u think
but why mod didnt delete my flood? because that was not flood
in new self-moderated topic you just keep deleting uncomfortable questions about your scam project which you supervise

yes, he is liar and merits abuser.

thanks for the reminder to add another flooder's instance to the list.

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Quote from: Jonh_Sneg on October 30, 2018, 03:42:31 AM

Quote from: escapefrom3dom on October 29, 2018, 03:43:28 PM

no, for example the described attacker (due to his mental peculiarities) can (and he does it hard and regularly, simultaneously laughing at us as it given above) continuously make posts in threads, so the solution must be more than just enabling moderated option.

hey guys i am that bad flood attacker yes yes do not be surprised Grin

so i have a words to talk
escapefrom3dom you're a liar or don't understand what a flood is
why am i flood
you closed old thread [ANN] DeepOnion ONION🌍Private цифpoвaя вaлютa🌍 Peлиз DeepVault✅ because i did flood as u think
but why mod didnt delete my flood? because that was not flood
in new self-moderated topic you just keep deleting uncomfortable questions about your scam project which you supervise

yes, he is liar and merits abuser. why mod didnt delete his accounts.

escapefrom3dom accounts and merits between them

extremegym - as web address of escapefrom3dom site
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/extremegym-1087634

arthur-gym - his twink, proof https://deeponion.org/community/threads/hiring-forum-moderators.3731/page-3#post-55518
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/arthur-gym-1533381

getup - as his skype nickname
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/getup-1087640

crashbit - his twink
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/crashbit-1144137

https://image.ibb.co/i1Uza8/2acc1.jpg
https://image.ibb.co/kaXVho/escapeonion.jpg
https://image.ibb.co/eaC7TT/arthur_gym_merits.jpg
https://image.ibb.co/hmZbNo/extremegymmerits.jpg ( extremegym.org site of escapefrom3dom)
https://image.ibb.co/i7t32o/getup_merit.jpg (escapefrom3dom skype nickname)
https://image.ibb.co/n7mZ8T/Crashbitmerits.jpg

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Quote from: escapefrom3dom on October 30, 2018, 04:52:11 AM

Quote from: Jonh_Sneg on October 30, 2018, 03:42:31 AM

Quote from: escapefrom3dom on October 29, 2018, 03:43:28 PM

no, for example the described attacker (due to his mental peculiarities) can (and he does it hard and regularly, simultaneously laughing at us as it given above) continuously make posts in threads, so the solution must be more than just enabling moderated option.

because that was not flood

idk what's going on with the ru mods, but 7 consecutive posts (as it's shown in the OP) with baseless insults and threats are definitely a flood.

I don't know what is written of those posts if it is about the topic then mods won't delete it but when the user got nuked all their posts will get deleted so reporting the profile is the way to go as for now.
As Loycev said having merit requirements to post in ANN section will reduce huge spam here.

escapefrom3dom

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Quote from: Jonh_Sneg on October 30, 2018, 03:42:31 AM

Quote from: escapefrom3dom on October 29, 2018, 03:43:28 PM

no, for example the described attacker (due to his mental peculiarities) can (and he does it hard and regularly, simultaneously laughing at us as it given above) continuously make posts in threads, so the solution must be more than just enabling moderated option.

because that was not flood

idk what's going on with the ru mods, but 7 consecutive posts (as it's shown in the OP) with baseless insults and threats are definitely a flood.

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Quote from: escapefrom3dom on October 29, 2018, 03:43:28 PM

no, for example the described attacker (due to his mental peculiarities) can (and he does it hard and regularly, simultaneously laughing at us as it given above) continuously make posts in threads, so the solution must be more than just enabling moderated option.

hey guys i am that bad flood attacker yes yes do not be surprised Grin

so i have a words to talk
escapefrom3dom you're a liar or don't understand what a flood is
why am i flood
you closed old thread [ANN] DeepOnion ONION🌍Private цифpoвaя вaлютa🌍 Peлиз DeepVault✅ because i did flood as u think
but why mod didnt delete my flood? because that was not flood
in new self-moderated topic you just keep deleting uncomfortable questions about your scam project which you supervise

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Quote from: jackg on October 29, 2018, 02:04:56 PM

Can we not just get managers to click "additional options" >"self-moderated topic"?

That doesn't help against bump bots. Typically, a bump bot bumps a thread at least every few minutes, and it can be much faster. Even a very active moderator can't delete everything fast enough, and if it's not deleted within a few minutes, the bump spam has already served it's purpose.

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Quote from: PetyaPetushok on October 29, 2018, 12:44:45 PM

Quote from: escapefrom3dom on October 29, 2018, 12:02:50 PM

Quote from: xZork on October 28, 2018, 12:16:02 PM

Quote from: escapefrom3dom on October 28, 2018, 07:27:01 AM

good idea but for example maybe it’s possible to add some allowed date registration range, i. e. allow posting for newbies that are registered no less than week/month ago.

Yes, too have a good point but still it would make the process more complex and also some multi account spams have older accounts which they can use for spamming. So I think just making it unbumpable ( selfmade word

) for any type of newbie will be the perfect remedie for this.

well, some light was shed on the problem. but i can't get just one thing – why local ru mods didn't ban this very active flooder (i. e. all his accounts)? there is plenty of evidence but a complete lack of action.

because he doesn't break any rules Grin

here is the flooder himself.

Quote from: jackg on October 29, 2018, 02:04:56 PM

Quote from: LoyceMobile on October 28, 2018, 01:11:30 AM

I'd say require at least 1 Merit to post in the altcoin section.
Paid bumping services have evolved after recent changes to deal with them. They went from 35 accounts per thread to about 500. It has completely broken the altcoin board.

Spammers create thousands of accounts at a time now.

That'll make for spam on the bitcoin section.
If a user makes 200 alts and has 200 airdropped smerit then they could have 200 bots ready to go and then the bot spamming business becomes qujite a prevmium one with high prices for bot spamming...

Can we not just get managers to click "additional options" >"self-moderated topic"?

no, for example the described attacker (due to his mental peculiarities) can (and he does it hard and regularly, simultaneously laughing at us as it given above) continuously make posts in threads, so the solution must be more than just enabling moderated option.

jackg

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https://bit.ly/387FXHi lightning theory

Quote from: LoyceMobile on October 28, 2018, 01:11:30 AM

I'd say require at least 1 Merit to post in the altcoin section.
Paid bumping services have evolved after recent changes to deal with them. They went from 35 accounts per thread to about 500. It has completely broken the altcoin board.

Spammers create thousands of accounts at a time now.

That'll make for spam on the bitcoin section.
If a user makes 200 alts and has 200 airdropped smerit then they could have 200 bots ready to go and then the bot spamming business becomes qujite a prevmium one with high prices for bot spamming...

Can we not just get managers to click "additional options" >"self-moderated topic"?

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Quote from: escapefrom3dom on October 29, 2018, 12:02:50 PM

Quote from: xZork on October 28, 2018, 12:16:02 PM

Quote from: escapefrom3dom on October 28, 2018, 07:27:01 AM

good idea but for example maybe it’s possible to add some allowed date registration range, i. e. allow posting for newbies that are registered no less than week/month ago.

Yes, too have a good point but still it would make the process more complex and also some multi account spams have older accounts which they can use for spamming. So I think just making it unbumpable ( selfmade word

) for any type of newbie will be the perfect remedie for this.

well, some light was shed on the problem. but i can't get just one thing – why local ru mods didn't ban this very active flooder (i. e. all his accounts)? there is plenty of evidence but a complete lack of action.

because he doesn't break any rules Grin

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Quote from: xZork on October 28, 2018, 12:16:02 PM

Quote from: escapefrom3dom on October 28, 2018, 07:27:01 AM

good idea but for example maybe it’s possible to add some allowed date registration range, i. e. allow posting for newbies that are registered no less than week/month ago.

Yes, too have a good point but still it would make the process more complex and also some multi account spams have older accounts which they can use for spamming. So I think just making it unbumpable ( selfmade word

) for any type of newbie will be the perfect remedie for this.

well, some light was shed on the problem. but i can't get just one thing – why local ru mods didn't ban this very active flooder (i. e. all his accounts)? there is plenty of evidence but a complete lack of action.

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Quote from: escapefrom3dom on October 28, 2018, 07:27:01 AM

good idea but for example maybe it’s possible to add some allowed date registration range, i. e. allow posting for newbies that are registered no less than week/month ago.

Yes, too have a good point but still it would make the process more complex and also some multi account spams have older accounts which they can use for spamming. So I think just making it unbumpable ( selfmade word

) for any type of newbie will be the perfect remedie for this.

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Quote from: xZork on October 28, 2018, 05:32:05 AM

Quote from: escapefrom3dom on October 27, 2018, 08:39:31 PM

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I think there is no perfect solution for your problem for now as even if you could report most of them they can just create more bunch of them with just some codes and clicks.
Even if the mods or admins permanently banned the IPs, it's pretty much easy for them to switch to a new one and again continue their work of shilling the threads. For now, we could just hope that there would be some restrictions for newbies to post in some threads as even if we have banned them from ranking up still they can comment in any thread and build up any type of scams to earn attention.

My suggestion to the admins would be limiting the thread bump to at least a jr.member level account ( Thread will move up word in the list only if a jr.member and higher rank comments on it). I think this is the best solution to solve this problem of irritating BOTs.

good idea but for example maybe it’s possible to add some allowed date registration range, i. e. allow posting for newbies that are registered no less than week/month ago.

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Quote from: escapefrom3dom on October 27, 2018, 08:39:31 PM

snip

I think there is no perfect solution for your problem for now as even if you could report most of them they can just create more bunch of them with just some codes and clicks.
Even if the mods or admins permanently banned the IPs, it's pretty much easy for them to switch to a new one and again continue their work of shilling the threads. For now, we could just hope that there would be some restrictions for newbies to post in some threads as even if we have banned them from ranking up still they can comment in any thread and build up any type of scams to earn attention.

My suggestion to the admins would be limiting the thread bump to at least a jr.member level account ( Thread will move up word in the list only if a jr.member and higher rank comments on it). I think this is the best solution to solve this problem of irritating BOTs.

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Newbie jail?

Problem solved.

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I warned about this some time ago that it will be possible to use bots to discredit the good projects.
There's a lot of room to make shit with those bots.

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Quote from: LoyceMobile on October 28, 2018, 01:11:30 AM

I'd say require at least 1 Merit to post in the altcoin section.

You can add this offer to the special list that it is not lost here.
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Quote from: LoyceMobile on October 28, 2018, 01:11:30 AM

I'd say require at least 1 Merit to post in the altcoin section.

90% paid bump/bot would reduce if this got implemented. Most of the ANN threads are bumped daily more than hundreds of time either through some users manually or with some bots. If 1 merit would required, the rate will significatly drop because most of the bots account get banned often.
Well, it would be more easy to say only Jr Member can post on altcoins thread. Newbies should be restricted, at least for avoiding the shady bump.

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