The NSA Is Building the Country’s Biggest Spy Center (Watch What You Say)

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Quote from: ShireSilver on June 09, 2013, 09:32:47 AM

Quote from: mprep on June 09, 2013, 05:45:32 AM

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I think the NSA are really building a giant bitcoin mining farm. If you can't beat them, join them.

You never know, it might actually be true. Grin

And like I said on another forum, they're incompetent enough that they'll be CPU mining. Grin

Yes but they will keep adding CPUs until they are competitive with ASICs. Thats what tax dollars are for.

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Quote from: bernard75 on June 09, 2013, 10:19:05 AM

The bomb system is actually plane easy to break.
If 0.01% of the internet users would randomly insert known keywords into all communication, no system in the world could handle the information.
Inshallah!

Warning: Not advisable for people living in the Land of the Free.

This shows something of a "present moment focus." These systems are intended to allow total trackback, so for example once someone is targeted (for whatever or whatever reason) the system contains everything, so everything is immediately available about that person. More importantly, the nexus - his friends and associates, same deal.

EG

I'm curious about Mr. Smith.

Let's see his son, his wife, her lover, the son's best three friends.

Run cross check with known religious kooks, anti-abortionists, Tea Party members (or whatever, insert Islamic terrorists if you wish)

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The bomb system is actually plane easy to break.
If 0.01% of the internet users would randomly insert known keywords into all communication, no system in the world could handle the information.
Inshallah!

Warning: Not advisable for people living in the Land of the Free.

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The revolution will be monetized!

Why should I watch what I say? Instead let's all publicly say we don't like to be spied on.

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Quote from: mprep on June 09, 2013, 05:45:32 AM

Quote from: ?? on ??

I think the NSA are really building a giant bitcoin mining farm. If you can't beat them, join them.

You never know, it might actually be true. Grin

And like I said on another forum, they're incompetent enough that they'll be CPU mining. Grin

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Quote from: ?? on ??

I think the NSA are really building a giant bitcoin mining farm. If you can't beat them, join them.

You never know, it might actually be true. Grin

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Quote from: counter on June 08, 2013, 03:01:31 AM

Fuck You NSA! This thread is now on my watchlist, thanks OP.

This thread is now on their watchlist.

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I'd say that's a lame media duck. Something gonna be built for sure but in the end, I think all it's gonna contain is a bunch of new servers full of porn.

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Quote from: lemonginger on June 08, 2013, 02:19:46 PM

and recent leaks should let you know at least part of their capabilities.

Reminder. EFF accepts bitcoin donations.

Yea, even guardian is full of NSA shit now...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2013/jun/07/uk-gathering-secret-intelligence-nsa-prism
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/07/prism-tech-giants-shock-nsa-data-mining
etcetera
Of course me as a bit of tinfoil hat kind of guy never had any doubts, I use torchat or pgp if I want to keep it private.

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and recent leaks should let you know at least part of their capabilities.

Reminder. EFF accepts bitcoin donations.

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Quote from: Wilikon on June 03, 2013, 09:55:40 AM

The heavily fortified $2 billion center should be up and running in September 2013.

No way! The servers alone cost several times as much.
I guess this is construction costs only.

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Quote from: wtfvanity on June 07, 2013, 01:14:15 PM

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Quote from: myrkul on June 05, 2013, 02:22:35 PM

http://www.gnupg.org/

In last 10 years I have decided about 3 or 4 times: "This is it, I'll GPG all my emails from now on"
Guess what, most people at the receiving end do not use it and have no wish to use it. I do hope this attitude changes over time and using GPG will become a trend.

I work in a law firm. I've pitched millions of times that emails are sent plain text. If you REALLY want secure communication with clients and other law firms, they should use GPG... never happened.

Pepsico Spain do it, I know for sure. So, sometimes happens.

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Time is on our side, yes it is!

Fuck You NSA! This thread is now on my watchlist, thanks OP.

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WTF???

Quote from: EskimoBob on June 05, 2013, 03:43:53 PM

Quote from: myrkul on June 05, 2013, 02:22:35 PM

http://www.gnupg.org/

In last 10 years I have decided about 3 or 4 times: "This is it, I'll GPG all my emails from now on"
Guess what, most people at the receiving end do not use it and have no wish to use it. I do hope this attitude changes over time and using GPG will become a trend.

I work in a law firm. I've pitched millions of times that emails are sent plain text. If you REALLY want secure communication with clients and other law firms, they should use GPG... never happened.

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Quote from: iCEBREAKER on June 05, 2013, 04:02:28 PM

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As the GDR began to fall, the Stasi did as well. They began to destroy the extensive files that they had kept, both by hand and with the use of shredders.

When these activities became known, a protest erupted in front of the Stasi headquarters.[62] In the evening of 15 January 1990, a large crowd of people formed outside the gates in order to stop the destruction of personal files. In their minds, this information should have been available to them and also have been used to punish those who had taken part in Stasi actions. The large group of protesters grew and grew until they were able to overcome the police and gain entry into the complex. The protesters became violent and destructive as they smashed doors and windows, threw furniture, and trampled portraits of Erich Honecker, leader of the GDR.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stasi#Storming_the_Stasi_headquarters

That was a great story, and it goes to show the power of the people. The people sometimes feel they don't have power, but what will the government do, if thousands and perhaps millions of people come towards them and demand change. Then they can do nothing.

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Crypto is the separation of Power and State.

Does it look anything like this? Angry

These Stasi 2.0 types are getting out of hand.

Even the Germans eventually got sick of this shit and reminded their government that patriots kill tyrants.

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As the GDR began to fall, the Stasi did as well. They began to destroy the extensive files that they had kept, both by hand and with the use of shredders.

When these activities became known, a protest erupted in front of the Stasi headquarters.[62] In the evening of 15 January 1990, a large crowd of people formed outside the gates in order to stop the destruction of personal files. In their minds, this information should have been available to them and also have been used to punish those who had taken part in Stasi actions. The large group of protesters grew and grew until they were able to overcome the police and gain entry into the complex. The protesters became violent and destructive as they smashed doors and windows, threw furniture, and trampled portraits of Erich Honecker, leader of the GDR.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stasi#Storming_the_Stasi_headquarters

All NSA goons and assorted jackboots involved better remember this phrase:

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Quality Printing Services by Federal Reserve Bank

Quote from: myrkul on June 05, 2013, 02:22:35 PM

http://www.gnupg.org/

In last 10 years I have decided about 3 or 4 times: "This is it, I'll GPG all my emails from now on"
Guess what, most people at the receiving end do not use it and have no wish to use it. I do hope this attitude changes over time and using GPG will become a trend.

myrkul

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FIAT LIBERTAS RVAT CAELVM

http://www.gnupg.org/

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"The heavily fortified $2 billion center should be up and running in September 2013. Flowing through its servers and routers and stored in near-bottomless databases will be all forms of communication, including the complete contents of private emails, cell phone calls, and Google searches, as well as all sorts of personal data trails—parking receipts, travel itineraries, bookstore purchases, and other digital “pocket litter.” It is, in some measure, the realization of the “total information awareness” program created during the first term of the Bush administration—an effort that was killed by Congress in 2003 after it caused an outcry over its potential for invading Americans’ privacy."

This shit is getting crazier bay the hour.

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The part that could be of concern:

"But “this is more than just a data center,” says one senior intelligence official who until recently was involved with the program. The mammoth Bluffdale center will have another important and far more secret role that until now has gone unrevealed. It is also critical, he says, for breaking codes. And code-breaking is crucial, because much of the data that the center will handle—financial information, stock transactions, business deals, foreign military and diplomatic secrets, legal documents, confidential personal communications—will be heavily encrypted. According to another top official also involved with the program, the NSA made an enormous breakthrough several years ago in its ability to cryptanalyze, or break, unfathomably complex encryption systems employed by not only governments around the world but also many average computer users in the US. The upshot, according to this official: “Everybody’s a target; everybody with communication is a target.”

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