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And that was all made possible because bitcoin had first mover advantage, use your head man.

It's called innovation and sooner or later an altcoin is going to make it big on innovation because bitcoin is to scared to. Some altcoins have already seen very good success, Bitcoin could increase it's worth past the point that it's already at if it just accepted this.

after 3 years of litecoin and 2 years of lots of altcoins, all i see is pump and dump coins that last 3-6 months, and a bunch of dice games.

I think your purposefully turning a blind eye to the innovation happening with altcoins.

I think he is turning an insightful eye towards the fact that most of these "innovations" are mere headlines designed to attract the attention of the easy marks.  It really is like san franscisco in 1849.  There were a few dudes who hit gold and made good money in 1848.  By the time 1849 rolled around, the scene was full of vultures and speculators and theives and the only ones making money were the ones selling picks and shovels.

You can call this the "first mover" advantage if you want.  But none of these altcoins have a large enough community to matter.  In fact, if you say btc is slow to innovate the protocol consider the fact that the bitcoin community is large enough that any changes have to be resonably consider and carefully considered because there is a lot of work that has been done and no one wants to screw that up because of an ill-thought out idea which seemed like an "improvement" untill it was realized that it wasn't one all too late.


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I may write code in exchange for bitcoins.

And that was all made possible because bitcoin had first mover advantage, use your head man.

It's called innovation and sooner or later an altcoin is going to make it big on innovation because bitcoin is to scared to. Some altcoins have already seen very good success, Bitcoin could increase it's worth past the point that it's already at if it just accepted this.

after 3 years of litecoin and 2 years of lots of altcoins, all i see is pump and dump coins that last 3-6 months, and a bunch of dice games.

I think your purposefully turning a blind eye to the innovation happening with altcoins.

I think he is turning an insightful eye towards the fact that most of these "innovations" are mere headlines designed to attract the attention of the easy marks.  It really is like san franscisco in 1849.  There were a few dudes who hit gold and made good money in 1848.  By the time 1849 rolled around, the scene was full of vultures and speculators and theives and the only ones making money were the ones selling picks and shovels.

You can call this the "first mover" advantage if you want.  But none of these altcoins have a large enough community to matter.  In fact, if you say btc is slow to innovate the protocol consider the fact that the bitcoin community is large enough that any changes have to be resonably consider and carefully considered because there is a lot of work that has been done and no one wants to screw that up because of an ill-thought out idea which seemed like an "improvement" untill it was realized that it wasn't one all too late.
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Value is derived from the demand of the users.

Having better infrastructure and network/wallet security in place is probably one good reason it has value.
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Network effect - Bitcoin is best because most use it. Here come the value, and it will be very hard to change Bitcoin #1 position in near future.
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The only reason Bitcoin is more valuable then other altcoins is first mover advantage. It's the truth if you compare bitcoin to a lot of alt coins on the technical side Bitcoin is lacking heavily. If the Protocol was updated to do something more like a lot of altcoins do I feel this is what would truly make the Bitcoin price sky rocket.

I agree, and first mover advantage does mean a lot though.  You suggest Bitcoin changes to make it better, but I THINK part of the things people like about Bitcoin is that you can't really mess with it, or change it, without getting most people on board.
I think this is a big part of it, however it is also really the best designed crypto out there. It is much better then other coins in terms of likely percentage of blocks orphaned, potential attacks on the network, ect.

It also has a huge advantage of the fact that it's network is the most secure.
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Leave no FUD unchallenged
I see a lot of absolutes in this thread, but people would do well to remember that nothing is set in stone.  No one knows with any certainty what the future holds.  The "it's good enough" comparisons drawn between Bitcoin and IPv4 may turn out to be right.  It's certainly possible that Bitcoin does everything we need it to already and the slowing development won't turn out to be a problem.  But it might not.  As Bitcoin itself has proven time and time again, anything can happen.  I can't in all honesty foresee a situation where Bitcoin won't be around, but it's not guaranteed to hold the top spot forever.  We'll have to wait and see how things progress over the coming years.

While it's true to say that -most- alts are probably just pump and dumps, it doesn't mean they all are.  Why not experiment with new features?  Why not test new ideas?  Amid all the noise and hype, some people are working diligently behind the scenes and coming up with some clever stuff.  Altcoins aren't hurting you unless you're worried about them diluting the fiat value of your bitcoins or you bought one that got dumped, so it's disingenuous to tar all coins with the same brush.
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Winner takes it all. Besides, all the altcoins are inflation in crytocurrency world, this is directly against the fundamental purpose of bitcoin - anti-inflation
Can't agree more.

I already got into bitcoin, which is risky enough. I do not have time nor money to care for hundreds of altcoins. Especially, when most of them a pumps'n'dumps.

I have never owned any altcoin. Few time I considered buying some, but I didn't. And lucky me that I didn't.

Also, currently I use bitcoin as store of value and method of payment. What altcoins bring to the table here?
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The only reason Bitcoin is more valuable then other altcoins is first mover advantage. It's the truth if you compare bitcoin to a lot of alt coins on the technical side Bitcoin is lacking heavily. If the Protocol was updated to do something more like a lot of altcoins do I feel this is what would truly make the Bitcoin price sky rocket.

I agree, and first mover advantage does mean a lot though.  You suggest Bitcoin changes to make it better, but I THINK part of the things people like about Bitcoin is that you can't really mess with it, or change it, without getting most people on board.
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The only reason Bitcoin is more valuable then other altcoins is first mover advantage. It's the truth if you compare bitcoin to a lot of alt coins on the technical side Bitcoin is lacking heavily. If the Protocol was updated to do something more like a lot of altcoins do I feel this is what would truly make the Bitcoin price sky rocket.

Bitcoin was a first mover yes. So was Microsoft and it became a huge thing and is still there. So guess what man? It is probably going to always be there. Think of bitcoin like that. As long as microsoft is managed properly it is going to be at the top in its respective industry for a long time.

so will bitcoin Smiley
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I only choose bitcoin because:

1) It's not a scam
2) It's not maleware
3) It has everything it needs to be money
4)...
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No LiteCoins?
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The revolution will be monetized!
Most of the alts I have seen are a product of find & replace coding of Satoshi's code. It's like finger painting a corvette and saying "look at this awesome car I invented!!"
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The infrastructure for bitcoin is magnitudes more solid than alt-coins. I had several alt-coins but those communities are full of scams and speculators, no one cares about the development of alt-coin, just pump and dump
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In Satoshi I Trust
I only choose bitcoin because:

1) It's more widely known.
2) It's more widely accepted.
3) IMHO all other altcoins are copiers.



I only choose bitcoin because:

1) It's not a scam
2) It's not maleware
3) It has everything it needs to be money
4)...
543)...
legendary
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If another altcoin were to have come before bitcoin then it would likely have value as well. I think the majority of the coins that have some level of value have value because of speculators.

No altcoin could come before bitcoin, except in some alternate universe where logic does not exist.
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I only choose bitcoin because:

1) It's more widely known.
2) It's more widely accepted.
3) IMHO all other altcoins are copiers.

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always the student, never the master.
I think the majority of the coins that have some level of value have value because of speculators.
This.
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Most all of the alt coins are junk copies with added crap.  Embarrassed
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The only reason Bitcoin is more valuable then other altcoins is first mover advantage. It's the truth if you compare bitcoin to a lot of alt coins on the technical side Bitcoin is lacking heavily. If the Protocol was updated to do something more like a lot of altcoins do I feel this is what would truly make the Bitcoin price sky rocket.

Like what does this even mean? ^^   what does it lack ? All the other alt coins are basically scams.

If that's the case then why do you have this in your signature?: BTCinstant.com - BUY GiftCards with AltCoins!

Lol so much irony.

Because someone paid him. You could pay me to use altcoins. Otherwise, I'm not interested in any current altcoin as a serious alternative to bitcoin.

The only reason altcoins have any value > 0 is BECAUSE bitcoin came first.


If another altcoin were to have come before bitcoin then it would likely have value as well. I think the majority of the coins that have some level of value have value because of speculators.
legendary
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Let the chips fall where they may.
... It is sad that so many are quick to judge based on charts and forum posts. Is it really appropriate to call other crypto-currencies scams when are current economic system is already scamming us? I would take any crypto-coin in the #20 spots on coinmarketcap.com over fiat.  
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Many alt-coins do appear to be scams. Somebody was good enough to Write up a guide for spotting them.
Edit2: A guide investigating Insta-mines.

I have been told the the innovative cryptonote-based bytecoin appears to be a scam (80% pre-mine with false history of "stealth mining"). I hope to investigate how true that allegation is when I have time because I like the innovation. (Ring signatures being used to provide privacy.)

Edit: I should add that Bitcoin is still an experiment. Major changes to the protocol may invalidate any experimental results. One question Bitcoin should answer within the next 15 years is: "Is it possible to have a secure networked application?"
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I Believe
The only reason Bitcoin is more valuable then other altcoins is first mover advantage. It's the truth if you compare bitcoin to a lot of alt coins on the technical side Bitcoin is lacking heavily.

Bitcoin isn't lacking heavily on technology... Bitcoin IS the technology. First one in existence and the first one out of the gate. Most all of the alt coins are junk copies with added crap. Only a handful actually serve a purpose and will survive over the next couple years. Bitcoin could be changed but why? Its trusted and well known the way it is. We will have Bitcoin for normal everyday use and Darkcoin for anonymous transactions. Thats all we will need.
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