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Topic: The OTHER SC Ruling...Union Slap Down - page 3. (Read 1647 times)

sr. member
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July 03, 2014, 08:15:59 AM
#7
This was a mother who was taking care of her own son in her own home and was not being 'paid' at all. The money involved was a $1,300 monthly Medicaid check that didn't even cover his expenses, much less 'pay' his mother a salary! But the SEIU (yeah, the same thug union that backed Obama and was created by the same asshole who created ACORN!) was making her pay $90 a month in union dues, due to a state law passed by union-loving Democrat assholes! And of course, this was in Obama's Illinois, home of crooked Chicago politics.
newbie
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July 03, 2014, 08:05:36 AM
#6
If they don't want to join the union, there should be two pay scales:  The one the union negotiates for its union members and the one the rest of the workforce negotiates for themselves.  They should not benefit from being freeloaders.  If an individual can go in and negotiate a comparable wage, have at it.  If you find you don't have the leverage behind you to negotiate a similar wage and benefits package, too bad for you.  You (should) get what you pay for.

I swear the right will not be happy until there is no middle class left.
And the left wont be happy til every citizen is compelled to have a Govt Union worker wipe your butts.
sr. member
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July 03, 2014, 08:02:00 AM
#5
What I say is that these workers will be singing a different tune down the road when they discover REAL thuggery in the form of corporate abuse of workers and an inability for them to get fair salaries and working conditions even though they have distinct skills. The pendulum has swung too far back. Unions were created because American industrialists treated workers like shit, and they banded together. Eventually, the Unions became the same kind of monster they started out to fight - full of corruption and greed, and there was a backlash. Now we're starting to swing back toward the conditions that existed when they got started. Unions will be back. Unions will be back. Bet on it.
DrG
legendary
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July 03, 2014, 07:56:50 AM
#4
If they don't want to join the union, there should be two pay scales:  The one the union negotiates for its union members and the one the rest of the workforce negotiates for themselves.  They should not benefit from being freeloaders.  If an individual can go in and negotiate a comparable wage, have at it.  If you find you don't have the leverage behind you to negotiate a similar wage and benefits package, too bad for you.  You (should) get what you pay for.

I swear the right will not be happy until there is no middle class left.

Don't know what state you're working in.  Here's in CA almost 1/2 of the unionized workers make over 100K/year which is well above the median income.  This includes clerical positions, cops, firefighters, longshoremen, sewage maintenance, county clerks, teachers and nurses.

That may be why the state is losing industry after industry. 

Aerospace - gone to TX and WA
Hollywood - gone to Canada and every other world city except LA
Automotive design - Tesla is the only thing left.  Honda, Toyota, Ford, Nissan, and GM have pretty much left.
Technology - the only thing propping up this state beside agriculture.  When this leaves party is over

For some reason seeing the children who had to eat semen covered cookies from Miramonte school doesn't make me feel like unions have people's interests at heart.
sr. member
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July 03, 2014, 07:41:15 AM
#3
If they don't want to join the union, there should be two pay scales:  The one the union negotiates for its union members and the one the rest of the workforce negotiates for themselves.  They should not benefit from being freeloaders.  If an individual can go in and negotiate a comparable wage, have at it.  If you find you don't have the leverage behind you to negotiate a similar wage and benefits package, too bad for you.  You (should) get what you pay for.

I swear the right will not be happy until there is no middle class left.
legendary
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July 03, 2014, 07:31:08 AM
#2
Personally think unions are vital in protecting workers rights, living wage etc but it should be optional to pay dues. Seems a bit counter-productive to force non-members to pay.
newbie
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July 03, 2014, 07:21:44 AM
#1
No one cares about the other SCOTUS ruling 4 days ago?  

By a 5-4 vote, the justices ruled in Harris v. Quinn that home health care workers in Illinois cannot be compelled to financially support a union they don’t wish to join. Illinois is one of 26 states that require public-sector workers — such as firefighters, police officers and teachers — to pay partial dues, often known as “agency fees,” to the unions that negotiate their contracts and represent them in grievances, even if the employees find the union’s advocacy work distasteful.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2014/06/supreme-court-harris-v-quinn-ruling-108428.html#ixzz36DxM6QYY


To which I say:  Fantastic.  And bravo to Ms. Harris for taking on Goliath.  The court has been ruling very narrowly lately, but this is another chink in the armor of Big Union thuggery.  


What ya all say?
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