The pain of holding bitcoin in 2017. - page 5.

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Quote from: gabmen on October 19, 2018, 12:08:52 PM

Quote from: omonuyak on October 15, 2018, 02:30:13 AM

This year 2017 has not been favourable to those that buy bitcoin in 2017, ended and are still holding. Bitcoin is in a state that we have not expect as many investors and speculators were saying bitcoin will get to over $50,000 this year. We should still holding as selling below the amount we buy is selling out of pain and frustration.

Well unfortunately, those people have limited choices. By this time, those that probably got in because of hype had already sold their btcs and those remaining are set for the long haul. Disappointing of course, but you have to look way ahead if you don't want to lose.

Well the choices are not limited if one knows how to avail them. There are many people who are just holding the bitcoins as they bought them at a very high prices like 15K or above. They are waiting for another bull rally where they can also sell in profit but this wait is getting too long. A better approach maybe to invest these bitcoins in trading and make double/ triple before we see a big run.

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Sometimes a prediction even though it comes from experts then I will be less certain that it will happen. Bitcoin prices is very slippery to predict and sometimes I did not understood the market situation when positive news came, but prices remain unchanged, so that I believe that there ware other factors that make the price of bitcoin or even the price of altcoin change. For someone who bought bitcoin last year there is no other way than to hold, selling at this time will give a big loss.

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Quote from: GoodLuck2 on October 23, 2018, 02:15:25 PM

Quote from: omonuyak on October 15, 2018, 02:30:13 AM

This year 2017 has not been favourable to those that buy bitcoin in 2017, ended and are still holding. Bitcoin is in a state that we have not expect as many investors and speculators were saying bitcoin will get to over $50,000 this year. We should still holding as selling below the amount we buy is selling out of pain and frustration.

Ofcourse, holders of 2017 end will be in panic because the predictions were wrong as said in the statement that experts predictions were around 50k dollar price but we saw downfalls in 2018 beginning and those downfalls are now ended but the price is still in the low market that is around 6k dollar with some fluctuations. I prefer to follow market according to conditions and nothing more as predictions are useless.

They that hold bitcoin in 2017 should have suffered severe losses at this time because the difference in price was so far, than holder that hold bitcoin in 2018. It might take several tens of months to get their capital back or also see the price of bitcoin soaring again as it did at that time.

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Compared to 2017, every user is experiencing hard days right now. Because, past year people never knew it'll grow such high. In unexpected time period things took place in a positive way reaching big value. Now people are much curious to experience the same and the expectation level is big. By now the growth happening in such a down trend is just increasing the pain.

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Quote from: omonuyak on October 15, 2018, 02:30:13 AM

This year 2017 has not been favourable to those that buy bitcoin in 2017, ended and are still holding. Bitcoin is in a state that we have not expect as many investors and speculators were saying bitcoin will get to over $50,000 this year. We should still holding as selling below the amount we buy is selling out of pain and frustration.

Ofcourse, holders of 2017 end will be in panic because the predictions were wrong as said in the statement that experts predictions were around 50k dollar price but we saw downfalls in 2018 beginning and those downfalls are now ended but the price is still in the low market that is around 6k dollar with some fluctuations. I prefer to follow market according to conditions and nothing more as predictions are useless.

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Quote from: omonuyak on October 15, 2018, 02:30:13 AM

This year 2017 has not been favourable to those that buy bitcoin in 2017, ended and are still holding. Bitcoin is in a state that we have not expect as many investors and speculators were saying bitcoin will get to over $50,000 this year. We should still holding as selling below the amount we buy is selling out of pain and frustration.

Well unfortunately, those people have limited choices. By this time, those that probably got in because of hype had already sold their btcs and those remaining are set for the long haul. Disappointing of course, but you have to look way ahead if you don't want to lose.

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Advice to those who are underwater to buy Dash or Neo, or some new icos is just f'g stupid in my opinion. Most likely the entire market will bleed all next year, don't make a bad situation worse - chasing losses is the sign of a gambler not an investor. Trying to fix a mistake buying too high now is asking for trouble, all you can do is wait or dump for a loss if you get desperate. And try not to get suicidal over money, life is too short for that.

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Yes, it might be a pain to hold into some coins that have already lost its value, but always keep in mind that losses can only be incurred if you sold at a loss, and as long as you are holding those coins, there's still a possibility that you'll get back the loss or profit in the future. Stagnant money is wasted money and opportunity IMO, so never put all your capital in one single go especially in volatile assets like bitcoin, but if you already did, waiting is probably one of the best skills you must have/develop in order to get through it.

2018 might not get us the same bull run as to what 2017 had but that doesn't mean there aren't any ways to make money in a bearish market. Those who bought during the top clearly are moved by FOMO and hype without studying the markets carefully. All they can do at this time is wait.

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Quote from: budiarmed on October 19, 2018, 08:38:18 AM

Yes, it becomes painful to buy bitcoin in 2017 and the value of bitcoin falls low. Conditions in 2018 are indeed very bad, but the market will definitely be able to stabilize again, we don't need to worry because bitcoin still has a chance to recover.

Obviously, chances are waiting near future but peoples are not ready to invest in Bitcoin so we need some positive vibe in soon. Because all the investors are trying to buy in bearish trend but new investors are panic in this situation so once improve the market automatically all the investors are back to participate in crypto industry.
I think next year is the perfect time for Bitcoin and altcoin investment so we should expect some good hype end of the year.

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Quote from: omonuyak on October 15, 2018, 02:30:13 AM

This year 2017 has not been favourable to those that buy bitcoin in 2017, ended and are still holding. Bitcoin is in a state that we have not expect as many investors and speculators were saying bitcoin will get to over $50,000 this year. We should still holding as selling below the amount we buy is selling out of pain and frustration.

Since they are holding until now then just continue. They already spend lots of months holding during this bear month so dumping at the current price is kind of a sh*t move to me. If they really care to thie price decrease movement then they should consider selling back then and not now.

Why other guys are rushing so much for bitcoin to reached their dream price e.g $30,000, $40,000, $50,000? Just relax. Those who are on rush are those who feel the excitement of 2017 hype. It's better that the market is on the state like this so that we determined the strongest support of bitcoin price. A quick massive jump into higher price is a product of hype and not by real demand.

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Yes, it becomes painful to buy bitcoin in 2017 and the value of bitcoin falls low. Conditions in 2018 are indeed very bad, but the market will definitely be able to stabilize again, we don't need to worry because bitcoin still has a chance to recover.

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You could definitely try dollar cost averaging because that is the only option you have to make profit any quicker and considering the price is quite low compared to what you bought it would be easier to drop the averages very quickly and that way you can get out quicker as well, instead of waiting for another $20k you could get out at $10-$12k for example, makes more sense.

However I understand not all people can buy more and more because they will be eventually run out of funds to buy bitcoin however for that type of deal you can definitely divide it into something that makes money while waiting like dash or neo and what not which would allow you to make money while waiting at least.

Or you can definitely hop on a couple ICO just in case and not spend too much and research very carefully but if you get it right than you can make a lot of money, of course do not spend much on them, couple hundred bucks at maximum is enough.

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There is actually no pain unless you want to just bring up some pain for yourself. We are in a corrective phase and it is normal which even gives you the chance and opportunity to be buying lower for the future, how on earth is that then supposed to be a pain. Trust me, if it is about pain, so many people are feeling pain now for making the same mistake like you back in previous years. This is not something new, get used to it, hold and buy more during the dips and look how things would pan out for you with patience in the long run.

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Quote from: rancidgash on October 18, 2018, 07:01:57 PM

Quote from: omonuyak on October 15, 2018, 02:30:13 AM

This year 2017 has not been favourable to those that buy bitcoin in 2017, ended and are still holding. Bitcoin is in a state that we have not expect as many investors and speculators were saying bitcoin will get to over $50,000 this year. We should still holding as selling below the amount we buy is selling out of pain and frustration.

Do not be a pessimist, the price of Bitcoin has been rising and falling since the beginning, but if you analyze the whole story you will see that it is growing. The current situation is only temporary. Soon investors will start buying everything from the cryptocurrency market.

Most of the cryptocurrency market consists of garbage shitcoins. Are you saying you want to see a full on bull rush again where lots get wiped out?

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Quote from: omonuyak on October 15, 2018, 02:30:13 AM

This year 2017 has not been favourable to those that buy bitcoin in 2017, ended and are still holding. Bitcoin is in a state that we have not expect as many investors and speculators were saying bitcoin will get to over $50,000 this year. We should still holding as selling below the amount we buy is selling out of pain and frustration.

Do not be a pessimist, the price of Bitcoin has been rising and falling since the beginning, but if you analyze the whole story you will see that it is growing. The current situation is only temporary. Soon investors will start buying everything from the cryptocurrency market.

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Quote from: STT on October 18, 2018, 05:41:36 PM

Price isnt everything, I hope underneath that cover BTC protocol keeps improving and a graph of users is rising for it due to usefulness globally

Yes, that is the hope.

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Probably correct as the edges of a market top or bottom are usually involving not that many people. The very origins of BTC was quite a select people, if only because many of them got rid of the BTC along the way not knowing the future thats a normal process of distribution.
People who bought at the top will have sold along the way also, they are part of the decline. But I dont think many even saw the top nevermind decided just at that moment to buy. Also I dont think that top price even registered in every part of the world and every exchange, it didnt hold as some flat top more a spike.

Quote from: davis196 on October 18, 2018, 01:15:55 AM

Do you mean the year 2018,not 2017?

I believe he is referring to a rolling year or 12 months leading into November 2018.

The best advice is always going to be dont just buy once or sell once, spread a trade across a period of time and it'll even out the volatility quite a bit. Even if the price is rising its quite sensible to delay buying everything in one moment. A good thing with BTC now is it can be traded many times without fear of the fees to processing multiple transactions to a wallet.
Price isnt everything, I hope underneath that cover BTC protocol keeps improving and a graph of users is rising for it due to usefulness globally

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Quote from: shamc on October 18, 2018, 04:27:47 PM

It must be a horrible experience to have bought bitcoin late last year, enduring a loss of $13k per bitcoin takes a lot of self discipline otherwise there will a lot of self hating and depression. Quite possibly suicides if going all in Sad

I'll bet there are more people suicidal for missing out on 2017's pump then people who bought the top of the pump. WAY more. Just imagine selling hundreds or thousands of bitcoin back when it was a few bucks, or even in 2015 when it was around $200s. Stuck in a shit job, living with the knowledge they were that close.

Slow death

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Quote from: shamc on October 18, 2018, 04:27:47 PM

Quite possibly suicides if going all in

there is a great possibility of the person committing suicide, but this because the person uses money that will need, and this is the error

I do not agree with this: " The pain of holding bitcoin in 2017 ".

Nobody knows when a price is high and when a price is low, so if people are buying bitcoin they should know that bitcoin is very volatile and these people should know that in order to have profits they must be prepared to hold bitcoin for years. do not expect fast profits unless they make day trade.

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Why do people talk about holding being difficult for only those who bought at the peak of $20k? there were several months early in 2018 when bitcoin price was over $10k, which is almost 2x what it is now. There are a lot of months where buying would result in being underwater now, not just December of 2017.
This same shit played out back in 2013-2014, the only difference being that far more people got their asses handed to them this time around. HOWEVER, if those who went through the torment of watching their investment get clobbered stuck with it for 3 more years we are talking insane gains. Hopefully this repeats.

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