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Topic: The Pharmacist - Attacks Filipinos here in BCT - page 2. (Read 1951 times)

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Really?  He's may be a moderator or what. He don't have right to say that. Even Filipinos in that position will not say those things because they have respect to other nationality. Filipino do there job professionally with respect. Cry
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No, that is not the intended spirit of Satoshi, who founded this forum.
He certainly did not intent for 3rd world monkeys to shitpost left and right. They ruined this forum, and are the reason that almost all *Bitcoin experts* have stopped posting here (or are not posting as often as they used to).
What are "3rd world monkeys" ?
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No, that is not the intended spirit of Satoshi, who founded this forum.
He certainly did not intent for 3rd world monkeys to shitpost left and right. They ruined this forum, and are the reason that almost all *Bitcoin experts* have stopped posting here (or are not posting as often as they used to).
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I've reached this member level without joining yet any bounties, airdrops nor signature campaign so this inhumane claim The Pharmacist really brings a huge negative impact on me as a Filipino people and not a monkey!
I'd rather hurt with a metal stick than verbal pain like a heartache!
Embarrassed

Every human being is a human. You are not being stripped of your humanity, so there is no great life-threatening disrespect towards you.

The Pharmacist isn't disrespectful towards the Filipinos of this forum, and his "3rd world...." trust feedback is merely just a statement looking at the stats. Usually shitposters are from Asia. There is no racism there.

If these people are from Eastern Europe, Africa or anywhere else, it would be the same thing. If you still feel highly 'offended', don't show him you are upset. Don't be a snowflake. Man up and take in the truth.
So 3rd worlds are Asia, Eastern Europe and Asia in your and Pharmacist's opinion? And Germany seems also 3rd world for him. What is first world?
No, that is not the intended spirit of Satoshi, who founded this forum.
It is also not created for centralized control of whole forum by high profiting group or mad seller  on auctions, who only wants to delete DT1/2 red trusts, when he gets paid a certain amount, he lost on exchanger.
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I've reached this member level without joining yet any bounties, airdrops nor signature campaign so this inhumane claim The Pharmacist really brings a huge negative impact on me as a Filipino people and not a monkey!
I'd rather hurt with a metal stick than verbal pain like a heartache!
Embarrassed

Every human being is a human. You are not being stripped of your humanity, so there is no great life-threatening disrespect towards you.

The Pharmacist isn't disrespectful towards the Filipinos of this forum, and his "3rd world...." trust feedback is merely just a statement looking at the stats. Usually shitposters are from Asia. There is no racism there.

If these people are from Eastern Europe, Africa or anywhere else, it would be the same thing. If you still feel highly 'offended', don't show him you are upset. Don't be a snowflake. Man up and take in the truth.
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I've reached this member level without joining yet any bounties, airdrops nor signature campaign so this inhumane claim The Pgarmacist really brings a huge negative impact on me as a Filipino people and not a monkey!
I'd rather hurt with a metal stick than verbal pain like a heartache!
Embarrassed
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No matter what country he/she belongs no has the right to call someone because people are people they are called humans for a reason we and we have an intelectual  mind which is far greater than animals. At anyways spammers are the one's to blame here because they are responsible for the pharmacist claims.
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It would be nice just to be fair and square with others. Never in my real life to make a statements like that will offend someone specially speaking about the race. We do not own their lives and we have no right to control the or say anything bad to them. This is a forum that all people can share together for the common good and not for the interest for oneself. I believe we are a loving community and all were happy to use this forum for many things and not for dragging people down. I hope the mods can see "The Pharmacist post and have a review on it for fare usage according to the laws.

The world isn't some hippy love fest and neither is this place and The Pharmacist didn't break any laws as far as I'm aware. I believe in freedom of speech but that works both ways so we aren't going to remove something just because it is deemed 'racist' or someone else doesn't like it, but there are rules here. You can actually say things deemed racist or offensive here just as long as you make a valid point and are not just doing it with the sole intention to inflame or aggravate someone (even if someone is actually aggravated by it). Sure, many people are going to find what he said offensive but I personally don't believe he broke the rules. As others have said, every user here is free to ignore any users they don't like and I would suggest you do that rather than hope staff will make a judgement call on it for you.

I'll echo your sentiment, bud, adding that during the going on seven years I've been here, I've never ignored a single user nor considered it. Not relevant to this thread, but I've also never solicited or accepted a single satoshi for my scam-busting services in this community, as well as refusing tips regardless the amount (tip amounts never revealed; simply flat-out rejected them, thanking users for the offers). I'm pretty sure nobody else in this space can declare said truism.

Quasi back on topic, I don't have a horse in this race but do find this thread interesting and informative.
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This is my experience:

Last year i followed an airdrop (a free airdrop), because i was intetersted on related project. Rules for joining airdrop was easy: at least to be a BTC talk Junior Member, have telegram and a twitter account. Well, over 90% (but i think near 95% ì) of airdroppers was from Philipines & Indonesia. Most of them just opened a new BTCtalk account and made a lot of shitpost, just for became Jr. Also a lot of them had multiple accounts or used airdrop telegram group for begging money. Obiouvsly: 1 days after airdrop this new coin goes near to 0 due to high sale volume. A ridicoluos thing was that most of them called "scammer" the developers (that had spent a lot of time and money for develop the idea), accusing them to not support this coin to go on coinmarketcap.

Due this  experience  i could say that i understand the Pharmacist's frustation. Is not easy to fight around tons of spammers here. Also i could say that 99% of post that began with word like "Does - Why - What " are just shitpost made by spammers.
 
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It would be nice just to be fair and square with others. Never in my real life to make a statements like that will offend someone specially speaking about the race. We do not own their lives and we have no right to control the or say anything bad to them. This is a forum that all people can share together for the common good and not for the interest for oneself. I believe we are a loving community and all were happy to use this forum for many things and not for dragging people down. I hope the mods can see "The Pharmacist post and have a review on it for fare usage according to the laws.

The world isn't some hippy love fest and neither is this place and The Pharmacist didn't break any laws as far as I'm aware. I believe in freedom of speech but that works both ways so we aren't going to remove something just because it is deemed 'racist' or someone else doesn't like it, but there are rules here. You can actually say things deemed racist or offensive here just as long as you make a valid point and are not just doing it with the sole intention to inflame or aggravate someone (even if someone is actually aggravated by it). Sure, many people are going to find what he said offensive but I personally don't believe he broke the rules. As others have said, every user here is free to ignore any users they don't like and I would suggest you do that rather than hope staff will make a judgement call on it for you.
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Changes to the structure of the forum is likely the only way we are going to combat this. But, then we risk hindering the actual legitimate users of the forum, which I for one aren't a fan of.
Legitimate people need not buy other people's accounts. They also need not/will not spam. Strong changes to these two things will not impact any legitimate users.

Signature campaigns are a big problem of the forum. Changes have been forced which are far from perfect. The changes which have been made have done little to actually stop the widepread spamming. Serious discussion and it's sub board for example isn't dealing with it directly but, allowing a safe haven for discussions that people want to talk about without the annoying spam.
Unfortunately, neither: a) Strong changes to reacting towards spam; b) Strong changes to who can run signature campaigns and how, have been made. Either one of those would significantly help the forum.

It isn't just signature campaigns. Altcoin annoucements and bounties are a big part of the problem and it tends to be a spamming ground for many non English, broken English and English responses.
As I've suggested in another thread, bounty sign ups should be handled outside of the forum.
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It would be nice just to be fair and square with others.
Right. Banning all of those spammers would be fabulous.

Never in my real life to make a statements like that will offend someone specially speaking about the race. We do not own their lives and we have no right to control the or say anything bad to them. This is a forum that all people can share together for the common good and not for the interest for oneself.
Hm... at that level of English you're exactly the kind of spammer that most of us are talking about here.

I believe we are a loving community and all were happy to use this forum for many things and not for dragging people down.
Oh, piss off. Loving community my ass. Would a loving community just smear shit all over the forum and spew rancid garbage everywhere they go?
"sir the bitcoin goes up"
"i will never sell my btc because it will being the future"
(some long-ass redundant quote about bitcoin's rise)

I hope the mods can see "The Pharmacist post and have a review on it for fare usage according to the laws.
Which laws? The ones in your country?
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It would be nice just to be fair and square with others. Never in my real life to make a statements like that will offend someone specially speaking about the race. We do not own their lives and we have no right to control the or say anything bad to them. This is a forum that all people can share together for the common good and not for the interest for oneself. I believe we are a loving community and all were happy to use this forum for many things and not for dragging people down. I hope the mods can see "The Pharmacist post and have a review on it for fare usage according to the laws.
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While The Pharmacist tends to go a bit overboard in his rhetoric, as many have mentioned, his frustrations aren't completely unfounded. Nothing has led me to such desperation as watching East Asian and Russian spammers flood the forum with waves of crap that I'll never be able to mop up, no matter how hard I tried. And while the not every [insert nationality here] is a spammer principle applies, trends do exist and certain countries with shitty living standards do tend to dominate the spamming sphere more than their more affluent counterparts. (Usually) not the individual's fault, but the mind does tend to lump people into categories.

I've witnessed how much work the mods actually do to try and combat the spam that keeps on popping up. By the time they have mopped up a few hundred posts when they check again there's another few hundred posts to deal with. It's a vicious circle right now which quite frankly won't be prevented by hiring new mods. Changes to the structure of the forum is likely the only way we are going to combat this. But, then we risk hindering the actual legitimate users of the forum, which I for one aren't a fan of.

Signature campaigns are a big problem of the forum. Changes have been forced which are far from perfect. The changes which have been made have done little to actually stop the widepread spamming. Serious discussion and it's sub board for example isn't dealing with it directly but, allowing a safe haven for discussions that people want to talk about without the annoying spam.

It isn't just signature campaigns. Altcoin annoucements and bounties are a big part of the problem and it tends to be a spamming ground for many non English, broken English and English responses.

You could pay $2 per post, whatever the fee per post, it has to be enough to pay for at least 6 new mods, 2 of them to be active for 8 hours, another 2 for the next 8 hours and the last 2 for the last 8 hours of a 24 hours day. forum needs more than 6 new mods, this is just to have 24 hours online mods on the boards with the most spam.
Let them pay, if you have enough moderators, you could stop them from breaking the rules. you say they'll rank up by spending time? they are doing the ranking up and are earning at the same time, if they'd post just to rank up without breaking the rules, you couldn't do anything to stop that, it is their time.
The forum shouldn't have to accommodate for signature campaigns. Signature campaigns should accommodate for the forum. What should be done is if the signature manager isn't doing it's job then the thread should be trashed and the manager punished.

I don't know if you've ever run something which requires using moderators, but it's incredibly difficult to find trustworthy ones who most likely have no identity attached to them, more so on a cyptocurrency forum. Plus, any of the reports that I make normally get dealt with within a few hours at most. The forums staff team cover almost 24/7 between them.
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Filipino is a citizenship, not a country

I'm well aware, bud, hence italicizing "Filipino" in my quasi-humorous pseudo-quote below the accompanied image.
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You're making things complicated for theymos. And btw, it's mprep not Mr. prep.

Theymos will not do that. It would be unfair for someone who's reputable and NOT a shitposter to loss some of his/her activities just being enrolled on a signature campaign. And how would the admin/mods will verify if someone is really in an SC? By wearing a signature? That's a dumb logic.
No, I know better than you and mr. prep, don't argue with me, mr. prep disabled altcoin icons once again, I'm showing my resentment this way.
A dumb logic would be to do nothing and have the forum to become what it is now. we need 2 mods to verify who is participating in signature campaigns.

This is just wrong. It wouldn't do anything beneficial against spam. Who fucking cares about paying 10 cents per post when they earn much more than that from even the lowest-paying signature campaigns?

Excluding bounty sections from counting towards activity makes sense. Altcoin sections seem a little harsh, though it can be argued that this is a bitcoin forum.

And at the end of it, this doesn't stop account farmers who just shitpost to gain activity. They can just not wear a signature until they reach their desired rank.
You could pay $2 per post, whatever the fee per post, it has to be enough to pay for at least 6 new mods, 2 of them to be active for 8 hours, another 2 for the next 8 hours and the last 2 for the last 8 hours of a 24 hours day. forum needs more than 6 new mods, this is just to have 24 hours online mods on the boards with the most spam.
Let them pay, if you have enough moderators, you could stop them from breaking the rules. you say they'll rank up by spending time? they are doing the ranking up and are earning at the same time, if they'd post just to rank up without breaking the rules, you couldn't do anything to stop that, it is their time.

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In this post someone who doesn't understand the difference between public and private or rights vs privileges.

There is a fundamental difference between a private forum open to the public and a public forum open to the public.

Like it or not there are rules here.  Are some less enforced than others sure but in what are of life is that not true...  When you get pulled over by a cop do you use the lame ass defense of "hey that other guy was speeding too".  Guess what, NO ONE CARES.  In the USA a lot of people say, "it's my right to drive".  It's not, driving is again a privilege available to the public.  Go get your license revoked and drive around, then when you get pulled over tell the cop its your fucking right to drive and see how that works out for you.
By public I meant something else,not in terms of ownership.
What you say makes sense, but what I said kind of confused you. I meant that users are allowed to post anywhere in the forum, as long as they are not breaking the rules mentioned by mprep and they are not shitposting and saying bull shit. If they do so, yes then they are banned and corrective action is taken. But still those users come back with the greed of participating in signature campaigns. Administrators do not have all the time in the world to check who is avoiding their ban and what not.
Posting is not exactly a right, it is a privilege, I agree. But I just want to say that instead of being too much of a racist to people who can't post well, anyone getting angry with shitposters is not going to help. If one shitposter is banned, 10 more come in. This would only increase a person's blood pressure,instead stop giving heed to shitposters, rather ignore them in the first place and just report them.
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While The Pharmacist tends to go a bit overboard in his rhetoric, as many have mentioned, his frustrations aren't completely unfounded. Nothing has led me to such desperation as watching East Asian and Russian spammers flood the forum with waves of crap that I'll never be able to mop up, no matter how hard I tried. And while the not every [insert nationality here] is a spammer principle applies, trends do exist and certain countries with shitty living standards do tend to dominate the spamming sphere more than their more affluent counterparts. (Usually) not the individual's fault, but the mind does tend to lump people into categories.

I have seen many many Users and Mods on Here bashing people about their posts because English is not their Primary language and seems "Broken" or sounds "Stupid"

This includes theymos  " - While some amount of error is difficult to avoid, if your English is so broken that you sound stupid, then your post will be deleted." topic is here can't be Quoted https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/rules-for-serious-discussion-and-ivory-tower-2722359

English speaking people who seem to think that learning a second language perfectly is easy should probably try it themselves.

Imagine that??

You have to ask yourself how many languages does theymos fluently speak? or how about The Pharmacist? or Mr. Prep?
I speak 2 languages fluently. English is my second language. You have no excuses. This is an english speaking forum - if you can't speak english well, either stay in the local sections or don't post at all. Also, it's mprep (pronounced as em-prep; always starts with a lowercase m when written).

P.S. This seems a bit out of place in Meta TBH.


WAS TRUMP RIGHT SINCE THE BEGINNING??  Embarrassed

Btw. we have quite the number of polyglots here.
Not speaking english as the first language is no excuse mate - something like a surgery in your left brain hemisphere would be better. Roll Eyes
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Mr. prep talk to mr. theymos to change activity counting, for example if you are wearing a signature you wouldn't have your activity increased but even getting negative activity per post while wearing a signature. then make people to pay at least $0.1 per post if they would like to maintain their rank. then exclude bounty and altcoin sections from counting towards your activity.

This is not off topic, this is why we're here on this topic, when you have a signature on even for a day, your activity should decrease for 2 weeks per post, that way, no body could trick the system.
This is just wrong. It wouldn't do anything beneficial against spam. Who fucking cares about paying 10 cents per post when they earn much more than that from even the lowest-paying signature campaigns?

Excluding bounty sections from counting towards activity makes sense. Altcoin sections seem a little harsh, though it can be argued that this is a bitcoin forum.

And at the end of it, this doesn't stop account farmers who just shitpost to gain activity. They can just not wear a signature until they reach their desired rank.
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