The problem of cemeteries and until where the cemeteries will be sustained?

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Quote from: joebrook on July 15, 2017, 08:46:41 AM

I have and will never be a fan of cemeteries, they just take too much space, if the loved ones wants to visit a dead relative, why dont they just cremate and store the ashes in a container and keep them in their houses. Lands are becoming expensive and there is lots of overcrowding almost everywhere.

Existing cemeteries should be destroyed and new homes, schools built in their place. No more new cemeteries. They serve no purpose.
Waste of resources.

Human corpses should be cremated and ashes used in ag industries, or given back to families if desired.

There's a much simpler way, which is just to dump all the coffins at the edges of Washington DC. Over time they can level the mound say at 300' higher than the initial ground level. Then the trucks drive up, and dump their loads.

It might take a decade or two but the swamp would be filled in, and the swamp creatures would be no more.

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what is this "brake pedal" you speak of?

cemeteries they exist now take up space. seems eventually that space will be reclaimed and sold for housing or whatever.

i prefer cremation. an urn takes up very little space. as a bonus no alien species thousands of years from now will be able to grab some dna from my corpse and clone me into a food source or slave or whatever.

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Whether you bury, or incinerate it is upon the religious belief. In my country there are atheist who doesn't believe in religion, but the burial takes place based on their caste. So, this differs with the religion and on other factors.

In my country whether it is City, Town or Village we've got separate place allocated for it. Different practice of space allocation is done, and in my locality people get burried and once the entire space is filled they start digging from the very first place again.

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Quote from: galestorm on August 30, 2017, 11:55:26 AM

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Makes me remember the time where i found out the the school that i went to in highschool was actually a cemetary. I really dont know the history behind why the cemetary was turned into a place of education. ...

That would explain why high school was so weird.

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Quote from: joebrook on July 15, 2017, 08:46:41 AM

I have and will never be a fan of cemeteries, they just take too much space, if the loved ones wants to visit a dead relative, why dont they just cremate and store the ashes in a container and keep them in their houses. Lands are becoming expensive and there is lots of overcrowding almost everywhere.

Existing cemeteries should be destroyed and new homes, schools built in their place. No more new cemeteries. They serve no purpose.
Waste of resources.

Human corpses should be cremated and ashes used in ag industries, or given back to families if desired.

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Quote from: joebrook on July 15, 2017, 08:46:41 AM

I have and will never be a fan of cemeteries, they just take too much space, if the loved ones wants to visit a dead relative, why dont they just cremate and store the ashes in a container and keep them in their houses. Lands are becoming expensive and there is lots of overcrowding almost everywhere.

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Quote from: Avametra on August 30, 2017, 11:29:23 AM

Cemeteries take up too much space, but after a while they are destroyed and houses built there. If you look deep into history, then earlier in this place where we live could be someone's burial.

Makes me remember the time where i found out the the school that i went to in highschool was actually a cemetary. I really dont know the history behind why the cemetary was turned into a place of education. It really is creepy when you find out the history of such a place.

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Cemeteries take up too much space, but after a while they are destroyed and houses built there. If you look deep into history, then earlier in this place where we live could be someone's burial.

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At least a decent place for the dead must be provided, indeed it is. The problem is that there is no decent place for the living, that is why the share place with dead in the cemeteries, this is the real situation that has to be on the attention of the government officials.

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I think that it is necessary to cremate in order not to cause pollution to the environment and not to take a place on which it is possible to build something useful, but many religions do not allow burning the remains.

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Quote from: BADecker on July 14, 2017, 11:24:06 AM

Everyone on Earth would fit in a cubic mile

Quote from: http://wow-really.blogspot.com/2006/10/high-density-housing.html

Really. You could put the entire population of the Earth in a space one mile wide, one mile deep, and one mile high (one cubic mile). We'd all fit in one small corner of the Grand Canyon, which would take about 2500 cubic miles of dirt (or people) to fill.

How do we know? One cubic mile is 147,197,952,000 cubic feet. If, on average, one human being takes up a space 2 feet by 2 feet by 6 feet it means we occupy 24 cubic feet per person. Sure, kids will have extra room and some of us will be a bit squished (or a lot if you're a flabby American); but on average that's about right.

Read more at http://wow-really.blogspot.com/2006/10/high-density-housing.html.

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Oh, then there is space for everyone, but why the hell do they build these cemeteries in the cities? Let me guess, build the cemeteries in the cities to make it easier for people to go and visit their loved ones?

But this is just the problem, living near a cemetery is very embarrassing and frightening.

come here in philippines you will be shock ...
living NEAR cemetery is embarrasing and frightening ??
how about my fellow filipinoes who has no house to live with ? who are less fortunate to have their lives good ??
they are not just near but they live in cemetery.. living in cemetery is have a home with your family and at the same time they find work as
(SUPULTURERO) they are taking care of the cemetery and grave

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Quote from: freedomno1 on July 16, 2017, 06:05:11 AM

I'm sure space funerals will become a thing, but then be banned later because the caskets are moving to slow and they may become primary space corridors. That said cremation is an option that is gaining ground, along with multilevel funeral caskets, where they are stacked and buried with the deepest one then less deep above etc, atm I don't see a significant problem with it as long as the main plot land above can still be utilized.

The main issue would be in high density or really poor places where it doesn't make sense, having them in the countryside and making people drive seems like an ideal use for otherwise low utility space.

I think just having the caskets out in space is dangerous. I mean, even now our satellites have problems with the risk of being hit by space debris from our other activities out there. Imagine have your small satellite up there getting hit by a casket showing out of nowhere.

As for multilevel niches, that's exactly what's in the picture. Cremation is still best when it comes to saving space. You can have the urns in a columbarium or even better, release the ashes back to nature. The main hindrance to adopting this is obviously religious. Anyone would agree it is practical.

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I'm sure space funerals will become a thing, but then be banned later because the caskets are moving to slow and they may become primary space corridors. That said cremation is an option that is gaining ground, along with multilevel funeral caskets, where they are stacked and buried with the deepest one then less deep above etc, atm I don't see a significant problem with it as long as the main plot land above can still be utilized.

The main issue would be in high density or really poor places where it doesn't make sense, having them in the countryside and making people drive seems like an ideal use for otherwise low utility space.

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Being a Hindu, my tribe don't do burials. We go for cremation. And it is the most environmentally friendly method of disposing off the dead. Also, it saves a lot of valuable real estate space.

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Quote from: Iranus on July 14, 2017, 01:30:29 PM

If you ask me, people will just get cremated more often. No big deal.

I second that. I also heard that after cremation, there is a way to compress the ashes to the point where you can make a diamond out of them.

How cool would that be?

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Quote from: dippididodaday on July 15, 2017, 12:46:47 PM

Quote from: Sithara007 on July 15, 2017, 08:54:14 AM

What about ocean burials? The corpse can be enclosed inside lead or steel caskets and these can be dropped to the ocean. And I don't think that the ocean will ever run out of space.

Never forget the gaseous effect of the workings of bacteria in the breaking down of organic material. What happens to gas under water? It is lifted up till it reaches the surface. I do not recommend, plus a huge waste of mined metals.

Steel caskets will not float to the surface, no matter how much gases are produced inside them. They are quite heavy. But I agree, they are expensive and ocean burials can waste a lot of extracted metals.

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I think that photo was from here in the Philippines. In some parts these walls of niches can go up as high as 8 niches on top of each other. It's gotten so bad in public cemeteries that bodies are exhumed after 5 years and the bones moved to a smaller niche. It's also not helping that pretty much a lot of the public cemeteries (especially here in Manila) can no longer be expanded since they're not near the city edge.

They've started installing crematoria in many cemeteries here but so far adoption is slow. Most people would rather bury their dead. Our family don't have this problem since we were able to afford plots in a private cemetery farther into the countryside but I think that somehow just shifted the problem away.

More and more people would die and larger space would be need to bury them. IMHO the earth is for the living. Our bodies are no more when we die.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on July 15, 2017, 08:54:14 AM

What about ocean burials? The corpse can be enclosed inside lead or steel caskets and these can be dropped to the ocean. And I don't think that the ocean will ever run out of space.

Never forget the gaseous effect of the workings of bacteria in the breaking down of organic material. What happens to gas under water? It is lifted up till it reaches the surface. I do not recommend, plus a huge waste of mined metals.

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What about ocean burials? The corpse can be enclosed inside lead or steel caskets and these can be dropped to the ocean. And I don't think that the ocean will ever run out of space.

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