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March 05, 2013, 03:32:12 PM
#30
But to try and pin it on Obama would be to miss the many, many others who are complicit in this fraud.
The party started some 40 years ago. Obama came at a time when the music stopped and the booze ran out.
legendary
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1RichyTrEwPYjZSeAYxeiFBNnKC9UjC5k
March 05, 2013, 03:11:28 PM
#29

Well, gold and silver require a truck... or a pretty large wheelbarrow.  Cheesy

Pfft. So will the dollar, soon.


They can always print them in trillion-denominations, like Zim dollars. Grin

Heh. I found this



But to try and pin it on Obama would be to miss the many, many others who are complicit in this fraud.
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March 05, 2013, 02:18:03 PM
#28

Well, gold and silver require a truck... or a pretty large wheelbarrow.  Cheesy

Pfft. So will the dollar, soon.


They can always print them in trillion-denominations, like Zim dollars. Grin
legendary
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1RichyTrEwPYjZSeAYxeiFBNnKC9UjC5k
March 05, 2013, 10:50:07 AM
#27

Well, gold and silver require a truck... or a pretty large wheelbarrow.  Cheesy

Pfft. So will the dollar, soon.
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March 05, 2013, 05:19:12 AM
#26
$40 or $50 would be a great point to gladly change this.
$50 for just 1 Bitcoin is for most people not psychological doable.
legendary
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February 28, 2013, 12:27:13 PM
#25
Why should people return to silver and gold when there is a far superior alternative?

I think I know what you're referring to Grin but that "far superior alternative" still requires internet. Gold and silver aren't going away (IMO): we know have precious metals and cryptocurrencies (of which BTC is king) to work with, and you can never have too much free competition.

Well, gold and silver require a truck... or a pretty large wheelbarrow.  Cheesy
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1RichyTrEwPYjZSeAYxeiFBNnKC9UjC5k
February 28, 2013, 12:25:43 PM
#24
It may well be, but on the other hand when you have thousands of years of history to back up a theory...

1000 years of history has us riding horses and burning dung to stay warm. 1000 years is a short period time in one aspect and a long period of time in another. So much has changed in the last 200 years and it would take something very, very drastic to reverse some of those changes (using steam as a power source will likely never go away for example) and something that drastic would complicate calculations of price more, not less.

Regardless, I'm planning on adding some silver to the portfolio. Though durable goods is top of the list at the moment.

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February 28, 2013, 12:13:23 PM
#23
I just watched a YouTube video about the "case for $960 [per ozt] silver". In the Roman Empire, historically, one silver denarius of about a tenth of an ounce, was equated in value to about a day's hard labour. In modern society it seems that gold and silver have been seriously demonetized, and presumably, if it comes to pass, a failure, either partial or total, of paper money/credit, will revalue them closer to their historic value. That's what the metalbugs think, anyway, but there's no absolute certainty they're right, only a degree of probability.

That makes no sense to me. Since then, materials have changed, mining technologies have changed, the population has changed and jewelery and coin production methodologies and usages have changed. To say they are currently undervalued is one thing but to make claims that they will revalue close to their previous values is unfounded.

It may well be, but on the other hand when you have thousands of years of history to back up a theory...

Personally, I'm not making any prediction that Ag will rise to $1k/ozt in today's money any time soon, for that would be silly. But the video is somewhat interesting anyway.
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1RichyTrEwPYjZSeAYxeiFBNnKC9UjC5k
February 28, 2013, 12:12:21 PM
#22
Why should people return to silver and gold when there is a far superior alternative?

I think I know what you're referring to Grin but that "far superior alternative" still requires internet. Gold and silver aren't going away (IMO): we know have precious metals and cryptocurrencies (of which BTC is king) to work with, and you can never have too much free competition.

I think gold may get the squeeze from bitcoin. Silver is still reasonable to be used as a currency in the case of collapse but gold, whilst not completely useless, is a bit ungainly in such circumstances.
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1RichyTrEwPYjZSeAYxeiFBNnKC9UjC5k
February 28, 2013, 12:09:18 PM
#21
I just watched a YouTube video about the "case for $960 [per ozt] silver". In the Roman Empire, historically, one silver denarius of about a tenth of an ounce, was equated in value to about a day's hard labour. In modern society it seems that gold and silver have been seriously demonetized, and presumably, if it comes to pass, a failure, either partial or total, of paper money/credit, will revalue them closer to their historic value. That's what the metalbugs think, anyway, but there's no absolute certainty they're right, only a degree of probability.

That makes no sense to me. Since then, materials have changed, mining technologies have changed, the population has changed and jewelery and coin production methodologies and usages have changed. To say they are currently undervalued is one thing but to make claims that they will revalue close to their previous values is unfounded.
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February 28, 2013, 12:06:06 PM
#20
Why should people return to silver and gold when there is a far superior alternative?

I think I know what you're referring to Grin but that "far superior alternative" still requires internet. Gold and silver aren't going away (IMO): we now have precious metals and cryptocurrencies (of which BTC is king) to work with, and you can never have too much free competition.
legendary
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bitcoin - the aerogel of money
February 28, 2013, 12:02:12 PM
#19
I just watched a YouTube video about the "case for $960 [per ozt] silver". In the Roman Empire, historically, one silver denarius of about a tenth of an ounce, was equated in value to about a day's hard labour. In modern society it seems that gold and silver have been seriously demonetized, and presumably, if it comes to pass, a failure, either partial or total, of paper money/credit, will revalue them closer to their historic value. That's what the metalbugs think, anyway, but there's no absolute certainty they're right, only a degree of probability.

Why should people return to silver and gold when there is a far superior alternative?
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The Casascius 1oz 10BTC Silver Round (w/ Gold B)
February 28, 2013, 11:59:41 AM
#18
1 Internet = 0.335 USD
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February 28, 2013, 11:54:13 AM
#17
I just watched a YouTube video about the "case for $960 [per ozt] silver". In the Roman Empire, historically, one silver denarius of about a tenth of an ounce, was equated in value to about a day's hard labour. In modern society it seems that gold and silver have been seriously demonetized, and presumably, if it comes to pass, a failure, either partial or total, of paper money/credit, will revalue them closer to their historic value. That's what the metalbugs think, anyway, but there's no absolute certainty they're right, only a degree of probability.
legendary
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1RichyTrEwPYjZSeAYxeiFBNnKC9UjC5k
February 28, 2013, 11:46:07 AM
#16
People dont understand that there was a time when 10 USD was a monthly sallary, and that people used to deal in cents

I was reading the other day, (possibly on here) of someone who carries a silver dollar around (with $1 stamped on it, obviously) and asks people how much it's worth to illustrate what inflation has done to the currency.
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February 27, 2013, 07:15:32 PM
#15
People dont understand that there was a time when 10 USD was a monthly sallary, and that people used to deal in cents
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February 27, 2013, 07:12:10 PM
#14
It truly is a global economy, and a trusted global currency is necessary to facilitate trade.
legendary
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1RichyTrEwPYjZSeAYxeiFBNnKC9UjC5k
February 27, 2013, 04:05:57 PM
#13
Not really necessary. It's just an artifact of not being familiar with dealing with multiple currencies. Growing up, a £ would buy you several thousand Italian Lira and nobody thought of changing the pound (though I believe the Lira was actually revalued some time before the Euro was adopted). Time to move away from provincialism, it's a global economy now.
legendary
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Beyond Imagination
February 25, 2013, 02:56:30 PM
#12
In old time, people without enough mathematics training had a hard time to do complex float point calculation, that's the reason previous currency seldom went below 2 decimal place

Now everyone have learned mathematics, I think they can handle 3 decimal places without a calculator, but beyond 4 is still not very convenient, mBTC is the next step when BTC reached parity with one ounce gold
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February 25, 2013, 01:11:53 PM
#11
And I was just starting to think it's too expensive at $1500 per 50BTC! All I need to do is think in smaller units and then Bitcoin looks cheaper. Win!
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