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Quote from: Prohodimec on May 01, 2017, 07:03:38 AM

Quote from: criptix on April 30, 2017, 04:07:18 PM

Money makes you happy. 110%.

The problem is 99% of people dont have enough money so they dont know.

Not quite right. It's not money that makes us happy, but what we can buy for them.

Money buys options and having more options is more likely to make you happy, or at least give you an illusion of control, which reduces stress.

I think what's more troubling is not that people feel they need money to be happy but the negative attitudes people have towards money. Poor people, who believe money would make them happier, tend to despise those who are more well-off, making themselves believe that those people just happened to be lucky, or have an unfair advantage, or doing something evil to become rich. This attitude then stop people from becoming rich themselves.

I also used to feel that way, though it changed a bit when I read some of Steve Siebold's books. Still not happy with my financial situation but at least I'm no longer sour-graping at the rich.

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Quote from: criptix on April 30, 2017, 04:07:18 PM

Money makes you happy. 110%.

The problem is 99% of people dont have enough money so they dont know.

For how much money would you give a grossly obese, old, smelly man a blowjob? What is your price? Serious question. "Happiness" is worth a little work, dont you agree?

Quote from: Hazir on May 01, 2017, 08:41:01 AM

I will share with you some of the best quotes I know about topic of greed, social climbing, wealth. Please enjoy:

- We live in a world of things, and our only connection with them is that we know how to manipulate or to consume them.

- Greed is a bottomless pit which exhausts the person in an endless effort to satisfy the need without ever reaching satisfaction.

- The only truly affluent are those who do not want more than they have.

- As we ascend the social ladder, viciousness wears a thicker mask.

- Not he who has much is rich, but he who gives much.

Read and ponder for a moment. All quotes by Erich Fromm.

I find it quite remarkable that marxist would by reasoning alone realize that spirit and matter are two essentially different things. Freud towards end of his life aswell admitted, that vast majority of people cannot live with physical sensations alone, pointing to the God as natural counterpart of material world in Man´s soul.

Unfortunately, thinkers of this calibre were and are in small minority among western secularists.

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Quote from: criptix on April 30, 2017, 04:07:18 PM

Money makes you happy. 110%.

The problem is 99% of people dont have enough money so they dont know.

Not quite right. It's not money that makes us happy, but what we can buy for them.

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Money makes you happy. 110%.

The problem is 99% of people dont have enough money so they dont know.

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Quote from: squatz1 on April 30, 2017, 03:09:45 PM

Quote from: vantyzz on April 30, 2017, 01:26:41 PM

People know money is the root of all evil, you don't see anyone doing a thing about it though, do you?

Money isn't the root of all evil. Rather, the LOVE of money is the root of all kinds of evil.

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I don't agree... for the people who truly consider everything to be money, equally.

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Quote from: vantyzz on April 30, 2017, 01:26:41 PM

Quote from: killgald on April 30, 2017, 01:20:22 PM

like all in life need a balance, money and the pursuit of it applied to this phrase, in this modern era we need money to survive, money is a power around the world that we need to have for food, services, education, etc... but like all things, much money for one person actually have a negative result in the live of one person.

Yes, everything needs a balance. Without money, it's impossible at all, but you do not need to pursue too much money.

This is something that is always going to happen due to human greed and want for more and more, you can'y just simply tell someone to stop going ahead and trying to get money because people are never going to know when to stop and what to stop for.

Greed is a horrible thing, but you can't simply balance out human greed just by saying that people trying to get more and more money are going to have negative consequences, no one is going to care in the least.

People know money is the root of all evil, you don't see anyone doing a thing about it though, do you?

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Quote from: killgald on April 30, 2017, 01:20:22 PM

Yes, everything needs a balance. Without money, it's impossible at all, but you do not need to pursue too much money.

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Everyone should know by now that pegging self-worth to external factors like appearance and wealth is not healthy but it's really hard not to. We live in a society where that matters and it's hard to go against the flow.

I would know. I basically fucked up and has been jobless for years and I'm definitely not happy with what money I have now. Let's face it, many can buy happiness indirectly because it provides us options. The feeling of despair that comes along with not having money is not just because you love money, it's because you feel boxed in, without escape.

Again, everything in moderation. Money can provide you comfort and you do get happy as you earn more but only up to a certain point. https://www.forbes.com/sites/robertglatter/2012/07/27/how-much-money-do-you-need-to-be-happy-2/#3eaa4f312043 From that point onwards, it really boils down to outlook.

So work for money, but just don't let pursuit of it eat you up. And don't be ashamed to pursue it. Someone has said "if money can't buy you happiness, poverty can't buy you anything,".

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Your topic is misleading. The article claims that staking one's self-worth on the pursuit of money makes one more vulnerable to negative psychological consequences. Most everyone must pursue money to survive in this world and the pursuit of money alone is not the concern.

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Although people living in consumer-based cultures such as the U.S. often believe that they will be happier if they acquire more money, the findings of a newly published paper by a University at Buffalo research team suggest that there may be downsides to this pursuit. The pursuit of money in and of itself is not bad, but there are risks to consider when it is fueled by a desire to boost self-esteem. When people tie their self-worth to the pursuit of financial success, they are more vulnerable to negative psychological consequences, according to Lora Park, an associate professor of psychology at UB and the study's lead author.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/04/170427144255.htm

Do you agree?